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Your parent infected you with Aids

Written by PruLuv from the blog Luv To Chat on 08 Feb 2011
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Let me first clarify, this has nothing to do with mother to baby transmission...

It's about Ntando, who may be infected with HIV after sleeping with his girlfriend, Sylvia, who slept with Ntando's HIV+ father.

It sounds mind boggling... It sounds as though it was taken out of a science fiction. The sad news is that, it is no tale but our reality. As Intersexions highlights that you don't know your partner's sexual partners, it's possible that you and your mother or you and your father might sleep with one person (without knowing).

Here is what happened on Intersexions:

Ntando has reconciled with his estranged father, a disgraced former teacher who has full-blown AIDS. Ntando is also in love with Sylvia, a young single mother. Ntando's father impregnated Sylvia whilst she was his music student. A while later Sylvia is a mother to Ntando's father's baby. Ntando sleeps with Sylvia unaware of this. The father comes clean to Ntando and he's devastated by the confession.

It may sound absurd, but how sure are you that you and your parent don't share or have shared a sexual partner? Would you have the guts to ask your parent about their sexual partners?

What would you do if you found out your parent, through sharing the same sexual partner, gave you HIV?

How would you react to the news that your partner's baby is your brother or sister?

Shows in this post: Intersexions

Channels in this post: SABC1

124 Comments

Mayos
08 Feb 2011 23:38

This is VERY SAD...and somehow becoming customery in S.A

I just think it would be proper if one gets tested before sleeping with any person, because you never know these days.

S.A has suddenly become a sex mad country...even if you try hard to be faithful and honest, you just don't know what your partner does when you are not around.

Life span of a human being has decreased, if you do get past 35 years being healthy and HIV negative, consider yourself one of the lucky ones, because many don't make it past the said age.

ke laka leo.....

MAGNET2DISASTER
09 Feb 2011 06:39

i'll have to think bout this the whole day!i give my answers later,tjo!

lejazz
09 Feb 2011 07:43

Pruluv,you must have written this article immediately after Intersexions last night...talking abou early bird catching fat worms.

sexy d
09 Feb 2011 08:10

@Pru Luv sho dats is hectic honestly i woundnt know wat to do..

babye
09 Feb 2011 08:28

i wasnt touched by the scene, wasnt well played - the scene in Soul City touched me. i will never forget. but i did get the message

Mokema
09 Feb 2011 08:29

I didn't get why he left the letter and cheque, how does that help Ntando.

Boni11
09 Feb 2011 08:37

I didn't get why he left the letter and cheque, how does that help Ntando.

I think that was his pathetic way of trying to make up to Ntando for being an absent father and for infecting him and his girlfriend with HIV

ntoko
09 Feb 2011 08:39

I am also battling to come up with an honest answer,dis things happen simply becos in our custom we respect our parents u can't just show up wid any galfriend/boyfriend u date unlike other races,A man is only allowed at ur home after he is in a process of paying lobola meanwhile that takes for ages, If people were only dating openly without having an intercourse before marriage non of this should have happened I am stand to be corrected.

nice
09 Feb 2011 09:03

I was torn by yesterday's episode, and was amazed how the ever respecting Ntando was behaving towards his sick dad.

After Mr Molete noticed that Ntando has a girlfriend, he took on the role of being a father and asked him to be safe. Asked his son to use condoms as he doesnt want him to end up like him, infected with HIV. No matter how bad this old man must have been in the past, he tried to reach out and talk to his son. Did he listen , no! He probably continued to sleep with Sylvia without a condom. Do you still blame Mr Molete for indirectly infecting his son after all those warnings?

I think as much as Mr Molete is a bad man, infected Sylvia with HIV and Sylvia possibly passed it on to Ntando. He cannot be held responsible for his son's behaviour. Sylvia could have been possibly ibfected by anyone and Ntando would have contracted HIV because of his behaviour.

Sylvia also should have known that she is HIV, when you are pregnant you are advised to test and assuming Sylvia tested, she must have known her status and she went on to sleep with Ntando without a condom, possibly. The only reason she broke up with Ntando was not because of her HIV status, but purely because he didnt want to sleep with his son's brother.

I dont know what is worse in this case, incest or HIV? Society thinks incest is much more tabboo than HIV , but in this case I would opt to sleep with my stepdad unknowingly than being infected.

ginah27
09 Feb 2011 09:03

this kind of things happen. these days older women wants to date younger guys and older man wants to date younger girls so it is possible that a mother can date her daughters boyfriend without knowing. Ver sad, we need to be very careful these days.

Teady
09 Feb 2011 09:20

I seriously don't understand how Sylvia couldn't recognise Mr Molete's house, He slept with them in his house mos! I don't know what i would do if i were to be in Ntando's shoes.

nice
09 Feb 2011 09:21

Would you have the guts to ask your parent about their sexual partners?

No never, I would ask my partner about his sexual partners but I doubt I would get the truth, so I wouldnt ask him much either. He will tell me bits and pieces in his own time.

What would you do if you found out your parent, through sharing the same sexual partner, gave you HIV?

I would do like that soul city child, and tell her. Ask how does she feel after infecting her child with HIV, turn to the partner and scold them for reckless behaviour. If I didnt test before deciding to sleep with him, partly take the blame for gambling with my life. If he infects me after testing then it is all his fault because he would have cheated, with my mom. The thought of this scares me. I should consider introducing my man to my family just incase he has slept with either my mom or sisters. (I wonder if they will be woman enough to admit sleeping with the new man I just introduced)

How would you react to the news that your partner's baby is your brother or sister?
First I would ask when the baby was conceived, before or after we started dating. If it was conceived before then I will blame my parent for cheating on the other parent, and sadly things would end with the partner. We cant encourage incest in any form or manner. Its okay if we both dont know, but once we know things have to end.

Cheesa
09 Feb 2011 09:22

I just though of Soul City when I was watching last night's episode. The one with father cheating on his wife with a girl called Lulu played by Mbali Mlotshwa then Lulu went on to date the son of her sugar daddy while sugar daddy went back to his wife to infect her etc etc and everyone in that family ended up being HIV positive besides the young daughter.

babye
09 Feb 2011 09:23

its is the responsibility of both partenrs to inform their partners about their status and past relationships. and also protect ourselves. its a scik world we living in and its difficult to talk to our families because of different set ups and cultures.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 09:27

Tjo last night's episode was kind of ok but the whole father son sleeping with the same girl shows lack of creativity for me. The story has been done to death. They should have found a new angle to it. The storyline was a disappointment and I saw through everything right when the story started. I could tell what was going to happen next.

However, in staying true to their theme, they did well. Just disappointed by the done and dusted storyline nje.

nice
09 Feb 2011 09:27

I didn't get why he left the letter and cheque, how does that help Ntando?

Mokema, the only reason Ntando was with his father is because he promised to pay for his tuition. Mr Molete was just fulfilling the promise he made, to pay for his son's education. That helps Ntando in that he has some secured future

he was unfair though, what about all his other children that were born from high school kids? I guess Ntando will in turn have to take care of the younger siblings.............continuation of black debt. I paid for your education now take care of the others

makisto
09 Feb 2011 09:31

The one with father cheating on his wife with a girl called Lulu played by Mbali Mlotshwa then Lulu went on to date the son of her sugar daddy while sugar daddy went back to his wife to infect her etc etc and everyone in that family ended up being HIV positive besides the young daughter.

At least it was well plotted and creativity did show. As for last night;s Intersxions, I was disappointed. With Soul City, we saw the character's lives and the situations they were faced with. Last night's episode was a let down.

nice
09 Feb 2011 09:39

makisto , when did you begin watching intersections?

PruLuv
09 Feb 2011 09:41

Lol @ lejazz

@Teady
I seriously don't understand how Sylvia couldn't recognise Mr Molete's house, He slept with them in his house mos!

Yeah, good question. I didn't even think of that hey..

PruLuv
09 Feb 2011 09:44

@babye and @makitso

Don't you think that Intersexions was limited to a 30 minute episode to play out what Soul City did over a series?

I think each episode of Intersexions could become a drama series.

Cheesa
09 Feb 2011 09:50

I think Ntando was not really responsible for his health in the first place remember when he wanted to sleep with Zamo he seemed like he didnt care about the disease to me. I just think if Zamo didn't say they should stop that day because she's positive and insisted Ntando would have just slept with her anyway if she didn't insist that they should not.

I can not say the father is responsible for Ntando being infected if he is. The father might have dated that girl but when he dated her she was not Ntando's girlfriend and Ntando should be responsible for himself and use protection. The father cared enough to tell him about his then relationship with that girl and his status and that Ntando must condomise and all.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 09:59

makisto , when did you begin watching intersections?
Three episodes into the show

maud
09 Feb 2011 10:01

hi
lets agree to disagree, i am not sure that Ntando did not use the condom, after all he have experienced the HIV issue previously with Zamo.

secondly i think Ntandos father moved from where he was staying before, that will explaine why sylvia did not recognise the house,(just trying to make sence out of this)

i dont knowwether its me or what but i like knowing my boyfriends surname before sleping with him, so the question is did sylvia not ask Ntando his surname, okay enough with that.

what if Ntando,s dad was infected with HIV after he pregnanted Sylvia ,that will make Sylvia Negative.

PruLuv
09 Feb 2011 10:02

I would blame Mr Molete (Ntando's father), he was an absent father. In his "alone time" he should have realised 2 things:
1. He is a father to a son, so his boy would need a role model - HIM. He had to lead by example
2. Him sleeping with young girls in the neighbourhood. Who did he think his son would date if he'd already gone through all the young girls?

nice
09 Feb 2011 10:02

Okay makisto, wanted to see if you understood the show as we had seen Molete's life when he was still a teacher. Last night's episode was just a continuation of that

nice
09 Feb 2011 10:13

Ntando was raised by his mom, knew that the parents divorced. How is it that you blame Molete for Ntando's behaviour?

babye
09 Feb 2011 10:18

@ Pruluv - my problem was that the scene was too predictable and the acting was not that touching. i ddnt even cry, i am very emotional and such scene they make me so cry

ownah m p
09 Feb 2011 10:21

this is a mess i wil be back.

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 10:24

Hectic episode that was. @nice, im agreeing with your views on the firts comment totally.

@Pru, those are tough questions you ask. So unfathomable i dont know where to start in attempting answer them. It is quite sad when you imagine that this is a reality some were close to home if not at home.

Would you have the guts to ask your parent about their sexual partners? Tjo, sexual partners, emphasis on the S Pru mara ruri, its so unimaginable, but my mom and us (her kids) are so comfortable with each other as WE grow older. I probably would not need to ask her, when she asks me about my private life, she refers to her own, she opens up about hers so she'd probably say or make it easy for me to ask her.

It may sound absurd, but how sure are you that you and your parent don't share or have shared a sexual partner? 100+% sure

What would you do if you found out your parent, through sharing the same sexual partner, gave you HIV?
I think it depends on our the circumstance. If we were both fooled by the man we both happened to share, then id stick with my mamzo and we will walk through the desease together. If she decieved me, i will cut ties with her and heal, work on forgiving her and if she is remorsefull like Ntando's dad seemed in the end, if she will let me, we can reconnect.

How would you react to the news that your partner's baby is your brother or sister? Eish, mara Pru, gape ke tse thata di potsiso tse....K, Quite honestly i felt like for the sake of the love and the emotions they had for each other, Ntando and the girls should have stayed together, bcos his dad ould die soon. Ntando would then take care of the child like its his because they are blood. BUT i think the girl did right by leaving, so they can get over each other. Opting for Justice over sentiments(love).

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 10:31

Ntando was raised by his mom, knew that the parents divorced. How is it that you blame Molete for Ntando's behaviour? @nice, im not sure where the question comes from, but his absenteism had a huge role in how he turned out. Its because he had no respect for him as a father that Ntando refused to listen when he he said he must use protection/be safe...effects of his absenteism. He probably even went ahead and not used it to spite him. Stupid yes, but the bitterness cost by absent fathers, not to mention bo ma low self esteem etc, realy could judgemnet at the most critical time. And this happenes inspite of vhow great the mother was.

nice
09 Feb 2011 10:32

But GA, how do you explain to the child when he grows up. That his stepdad is his brother. That father and son slept with the same woman?

What if they have children of their own, then it gets too complicated......... Sylvia did the best thing by leaving.

Mathaz
09 Feb 2011 10:42

Mara as much as Intersexion is trying to educate us abou how HIV is spread, can't they at least do one positive storyline where they show people using condoms, it's not all gloom you know. Could they have not shown Ntando using condoms with his girlfriend, he is after all young and seem to be responsible. He knows about the disease so it would have been wiser if they depicted him as a responsible young man. I am just tired of all this negative story lines.

nice
09 Feb 2011 10:48

Mathaz, I hear you. But I remember they once did it with one of Molete's school girls. She went on to learn how to be a chef and she refused to sleep with a head chef. I was so proud of her thinking that she is a smart girl.

Right now we need someone smarter to break the cycle as it sends the message that no matter what you do, there is no hope as it just passes and passes, and passes to the next person

zam.ngcobo
09 Feb 2011 11:06

I think as much as Mr Molete is a bad man, infected Sylvia with HIV and Sylvia possibly passed it on to Ntando. He cannot be held responsible for his son's behaviour. Sylvia could have been possibly ibfected by anyone and Ntando would have contracted HIV because of his behaviour. I agree with you Nice
As much as he (the father) infected Sylvia with Aids Ntando can not blame him for his mistake , he should have been more carefull and used protection especially after what Zamo told him from the previous episode . He was man enough to have sex ,he should have been man enough to use protection . And this Sylvia chick must have known that she was HIV positive .

All in all it was a very sad episode but Ntando should have used protection , his father is not to blame .

Cande
09 Feb 2011 11:33

stupid question: Why would youngsters be having unprotected sex? i dont blame Mr Molete is the son is infected

carino
09 Feb 2011 11:35

Im with Cande on this one.

Cande
09 Feb 2011 11:45

Futhi if Mr Molete has infected Sylvia, then she should have know when she was pregnant that she is HIV positive so why would she go on to sleep with Ntando without a condom?>???

Cande
09 Feb 2011 11:50

I think intersexions is dragging for too long, they have made their point.. Can we get to the conclusion please??? otherwise they going to be running out of story lines and confusing us.. Unless Sylvia was sleeping with Mr Molete eskolweni/estrateni, she should have known were he stays.. If he moved then she would have known mos, news travel fast ekasi and they stayed the same kasie...

Weiss
09 Feb 2011 11:51

Wow! This sound very interesting... Show how u cant be sure abt who is carrying HIV in their body. But situation sounds so messed up.

maud
09 Feb 2011 12:00

Hawu Cande news travel fast ekasi?, this poor girl was fustrated left with pregnancy the father was expelled from teaching and all she wanted was to put the past behind and go on with her life. as you can see Sylvia was staying in a shack and Ntando,s father in a bond,
oops juty calls i am coming back

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 12:03

I was also confused yesterday coz the previous episode of Teacher Molete, the girl he was sleeping with had a sick granny. Now I kinda get yesterday's episode, she is not the one I thought she was.

carino
09 Feb 2011 12:06

True that it is actually dragging for too long. Nna I don’t even know how to feel about it anymore. Coz the storylines that they’ve come up with are just the extension of what Soul City already started.

And shem poor Ntando, even though he had made a good choice by not doing Zamo last week, he got it another way and that goes to show gore doing right is a matter of consistency. Mr Molete made his mistakes and he has paid for them. The son also does the same – he’ll make his mistakes and will pay for them. It just goes to teach those who didn’t already know, that you can’t have your life revolving around other people. Your life is your life and you should always own up to your actions.

vinc
09 Feb 2011 12:12

Perhaps Mr Molete and Slyvia did it at school after music class that is why she doesnt know the house but surely if the relationship was on a level that they could go to Ntando's house and spend the evening together, Slyvia would know some information about Ntando's familiy.

And if Slyvia is HIV+ then she knew because when you are preg, you get tested i think twice, if she infected Ntando then she is the selfish and irresponsible one and also Ntando, that encounter with Zamo, that would have been a wake up call for him. Ntando knows what his dad is suffering from so the signs are there unless he decides to ignore the facts.

Its very scary considering the fact that pple are very careless when it comes to sex.

I think it was very brave of Mr Molete to tell his son the truth someone would have kept quite

carino
09 Feb 2011 12:16

Futhi kanti didnt this Sylvia know Ntando's surname. I thought perhaps he uses his mother's name.. but no... the cheque read Ntando Molete, and I was like hayibo! if their relationship was at a point of not using condoms, then surely they should be knowng each other's surnames... then she should've had a wake-up moment just when she heard the surname, mostaan.

babye
09 Feb 2011 12:28

Ntando knew his father illiness, he knew about the medication requirements etc.tablets before meals.

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 12:30

Me too Carino that is why I was confused by yesterday's episode. They just killled Ntando's character how can he be so reckless from Zamo to Sylvia. People learn man especially if it someone close to you. He was close to Zamo's family and saw HIV is real and when he found his dad BOOM he is also +ve. Hai Intersexion is sometimes loosing the plot. I am also tired of its opening scene.

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 12:32

@nice.... The thought that they should try crossed my heart when i saw how heart broken hearted they both where. BUT i agree, She did the right thing ,the mature thing indeed, it would get harder when time goes by and sentiments wouldn't be enough to deal with the potential challenges. Im glad she made the decision with her head not her heart.

carino
09 Feb 2011 12:38

....I am also tired of its opening scene.

LOL. I've been wanting to say that but not knowing what words to use.

Yerrrr....that line that comes with a show of a hand is really tired now.

maud
09 Feb 2011 12:40

sure molilo , we will assume that the sick granny died she moved in and stayed with her mom, just assuming i guess is the drama they cant tell us everything and also that girl had two siblings staing with them.

(amadoda endilele nawo ndingawabala ngesisandla sam)

(its not about who you slept with but who your partners slept with), my son sings things everytime when the drama starts

carino
09 Feb 2011 12:45

sure molilo , we will assume that the sick granny died she moved in and stayed with her mom, just assuming i guess is the drama they cant tell us everything and also that girl had two siblings staing with them.

Guys, there were two girls mostaan... The one with the granny is the one that went to do the chef course. Sylvia is the other one.

carino
09 Feb 2011 12:45

(its not about who you slept with but who your partners slept with), my son sings things everytime when the drama starts

LOL

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 12:50

Yes Maud and the 2 boys, eish let me also assume the mother returned from nowhere.
LOL at your son, at least Intersexion managed to teach him to be careful of who he sleeps with.

myname
09 Feb 2011 12:51

Here we are here again Ms Pruluv

Uyabona ke!!! After yesterdays' episode i just stand infront of my 52cm fong kong tv thinking endlessly.

Let me read your replies guys......maar this story!!!!! Whoever is behind it, I say BRAVO but i dont enjoy my beauty sleep everytime i watch it

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 12:51

Guys, there were two girls mostaan... The one with the granny is the one that went to do the chef course. Sylvia is the other one.
Yes Carino hence my confusion last night

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 12:55

Speaking of confusion guys,......Before intesexion last night, the promo mentioned Ntando, and another girl (who i thought was Sylvia from thaaaat episode), they Said Ntando and this girl will never meet, but they are sexual patters. Who was this other girl if not Sylvia??

carino
09 Feb 2011 12:56

It wasnt Sylvia, GA.. it was Sylvia's friend who also slept with Mr Molete, the one with the sick granny, the one that went to a chef course.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 12:57

Eish bloggers, I am also tired with the whole " I can can't my sexual partners in one hand lone", I am so sick and tired of it. Can't they at least have something relevant to that week's episode at least instead of subjecting us to torture with those ladies in the begining. The show must be canned already man!!!!!!!!!!

carino
09 Feb 2011 12:58

The other girl's name is Tsholofelo

maddie
09 Feb 2011 13:00

y r we concluding that Ntando did not use a condom.

if Ntando's galfrnd was HIV + she would know bcos of the baby and it's mandatory now to do ama tests for pregnant women.

if the baby tested positive and she slept with Ntando without a cd then she's cruel.

yesterday's episode was all about assumptions and judging from this blog they did a great job

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 13:02

Mmmmkay....thanx carino.... that episode ya Molete sleeping with school kids didnt quite sink in, its those 3 weeks or so when intersexion was just not hard hitting.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:03

Said Ntando and this girl will never meet, but they are sexual patters

I have been wanting to criticise this tagline and I think today is the right time to do so. But doesn't the word partner mean someone with whom you do things together with? Therefore, how can someone be your sexual partner without them sleeping with you. This tagline is felacious and anomalous. It is anomaly in that they say they will never meet but they are sexual partners. They should have come up with a different tagline because this one is semantically incorrect.

I get the whole thing that they have slept with whoever and now they are sleeping with you but that doesn't mean you are a sexual partner with that person. You are just sleeping with the same person. Phela this isn't a threesome as threesome involves consent and all. Intersexions must just end, it's getting unreal now.

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 13:08

yesterday's episode was all about assumptions and judging from this blog they did a great job ... true maddie, actually most of the episodes leave you with an asumtion about one person or two.

Gotta say, that episode with the gay guys and the married indian guy had me in a premanet tjo! pose. Tjo!.

PSSS: Did anyone watch Ekasie on monday...just wanted to say bravo to etv and Vusi Twala's team...they outdid themselves really. It was a great production and oh so tearjecking.

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 13:11

Yes GA ekasi improved

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:12

true maddie, actually most of the episodes leave you with an asumtion about one person or two.
That was one hell of a great epsisode and very clevery plotted and someone like me who wouldn't sit and watch an Indian show, the producers worked rather smart to get me to watch.

Did anyone watch Ekasie on monday
What is that?

myname
09 Feb 2011 13:13

Eish the more u r trying to explain it the more i become dom

OK maybe i should read it slowly

carino
09 Feb 2011 13:19

yesterday's episode was all about assumptions and judging from this blog they did a great job ...

hayike if thats teh case then I think the conversation needs to stop now. zThey cant keep giving a crappy show in the name of creating assumptions. hayi!

LOLLEST @makisto. Yha, Intersexions needs to go home now. We've learned the lesson and now the more they drag it the more they will also start to forget what they've said in the beginning. lol

Cheesa
09 Feb 2011 13:22

Yhooo now this is confusing with all these different girls. I had already forgoten that Mr Molete slept with both those girls let alone that there is another girl he slept with. I only remembered one girl. I am more confused ke ngoku I cant even remember how the other one looks like. I am so confused right now serious.

That openning sequence is boring nyani shem. I think I have also had enough with Intersexion manje they must bring us a new drama already. Konje this was episode number what so I can start counting down. I remember it was said its 25 episodes akere?

offtopic: Im too lazy to work today tjo!

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 13:22

How many episodes left?

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 13:26

Makisto...ekasi stories tsa etv, the ones we have crucified for poor quiality in the past.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:27

@Cheesa and being lazy at work
At least I'm not the only one lol

carino
09 Feb 2011 13:30

25 episodes?? serious??

So we still have seven more to go through?? Their website says last night was the 18th.

Its finishing in April mos lento??

I just hope from next week they will be taking us more towards the wedding before the hand.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:33

Makisto...ekasi stories tsa etv, the ones we have crucified for poor quiality in the past.
Oh, I wasn't aware, I was thinking you were referring to Nigerian movies or some SABC 2 drama made in the '60s lol. *hides*

carino
09 Feb 2011 13:33

hahahahahahahaahahah maki.. I was wondering what Indian stories you are going on about, my friend..

maud
09 Feb 2011 13:34

if you want to enjoy intersection dont concetrate on the message or acting just watch just to keep you busy you will be okay.

@ Molilo- i am not sure if he realy understand i think he has heard this so many times it now a song to him.

we still have another three months to watch this .

PruLuv
09 Feb 2011 13:36

I think Intersexions was to bust the mambo jumbo we are fed on our tvs, where people sleep around but they remain as healthy as ever.

Think Brooke from The Bold and The Beautiful (I haven't watched the soapie in over 5 years), she moves from 1 man to the other, then these men have other sexual partners and their sexual partners have other sexual partners. Then Brooke has a child with Eric and marries Ridge, making Ridge the step father to his own brother. Then Ridge has children with Taylor, that Brooke sleeps with and those children sleep with Brookes' children. Woooo... it's just a mess.

These are the soapies that people are addicted to. So, if after their messy business everyone remains healthy , won't gullible people imitate them? Sure "the Bold" is for entertainment but I think we also need edutainment.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:41

I was wondering what Indian stories you are going on about, my friend..
Intersexions one, the one that had Tahira Seyed (whatever the surname lol) and that woman sleeping with Fezile Mpela of SABC presenter fame.

carino
09 Feb 2011 13:43

Fezile Mpela has also been on Intersexions? He banna... Must be one of those two episodes I missed.

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 13:44

Aowa I am tired of intersexion, last night's episode was just dry. Hopefully the remaining ones will be worth watching.
I saw on twitter next week's episode feature Zuluboy

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 13:45

No Makisto Fezile Mpela has never been on Intersexion, no ka gana

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:46

if you want to enjoy intersection dont concetrate on the message or acting just watch just to keep you busy you will be okay.
No Maud, we will clap hands for good quality and we will critisize poor stories that shows lack of creativity

Sure "the Bold" is for entertainment but I think we also need edutainment.
Producers have to ensure edutainment doesn't become preachy or boring. Right now, Intersexionedutainment is going down the drain and it's becoming boring. I was think they were going to end with a bang but nope, they are starting to bore us shem. Imagine hearing that I can count my men... 25 times lol

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:48

Fezile Mpela of SABC presenter fame.

Sorry, no blogger, I meant the Fezile Makhanya or something along those lines. He was an SABC 1 presenter *laughing at myself lol*

nice
09 Feb 2011 13:52

I am also lazy to work

I am not looking forward to the end of intersexions, it is on episode 18 but I am still enjoying it. Every episode.

besides, rather the scary and tjo storylines than the repeats that I see on Thursday and Friday. Some of us only have welfare tv, anything new and that gets you thinking is worth it and no rush for it to end.

You guys are being too analytical and in the process miss a lot of things and expect everything to be spelt out. In a 30 minute episode its impossible bathong, and there are some bits and pieces that are left to the viewer.

I am assuming that every person that is having sex on intersexions is doing so without a condom, until I am told otherwise. I guess the otehr viewer can assume that the characters are safe until told otherwise.

myname
09 Feb 2011 13:53

Oh guys sorini but i wanna ask u something....sorini ngoba jajarag, i was chased at creche bcoz of many questions.

@Carino & other bloggers

UTsholofelo & Sylvia is the same person akere!

UTsholofelo is the girl who became a chef. Remember it was hard for her to trust that male chef because of her ugly past with men AKERE BATHONG! Or ndim ndiyaphambana!

makisto
09 Feb 2011 13:54

But Nice, Interboring has become stylistically boring shem

nice
09 Feb 2011 14:04

myname, Tsholofelo and Sylvia are not the same people.

Sylvia slept with Molete too many times, and she was the one who was in the choir. She didnt want to expose Molete until the principal went to visit her at home. Sylvia was in the choir, and she was a soloist

The other girl (cant remember her name) lived with the gran who was dying. Molete offerred to help them financially and went to visit her home. Then that is how she slept with the second girl

nice
09 Feb 2011 14:05

What bores you about it makisto? Break it down for me assemblief

myname
09 Feb 2011 14:08

Oh thank you Nice....u deserve a star, i think i remember now

Maar Maki nna im not bored....I actually hate when my mom or anyone calls me during this drama.

Molilo
09 Feb 2011 14:10

No myname Tsholo is the Chef and Syl is the baby mama, remember in that episode Syl told Tsholo she was preggies and Tsholo asked her y she did not condomize.
Tsholo was aware of them sleeping together, I suppose she accepted it in order to maintain the family. Remember the living condition at their house was unbearable due to Gogo being sick and the 2 little ones who had to be taken care of.

carino
09 Feb 2011 14:10

Sure "the Bold" is for entertainment but I think we also need edutainment.

Lollest @ me reading this as adultainment - as in entertainment meant for 'adult' viewing.

makgotso
09 Feb 2011 14:17

Tjo intersexion bathong.................yona scene yaNtando was predictable but the message was preached go re if you can't abstain condomise.

Ntando was reckless so Mr Molete shouldn't be blamed for the that theonly blame he can take is to be an absent father. Sulvia liyena usile why didn't she use the condom phela when you are preggies you get tested twice so she knew her status .........selfishness at its best nje

zam.ngcobo
09 Feb 2011 14:18

These are the soapies that people are addicted to. So, if after their messy business everyone remains healthy , won't gullible people imitate them? Sure "the Bold" is for entertainment but I think we also need edutainment
Thank you Pruluv is seems like people do not want to be educated about HIV/AIDS .
And from the look of things people will keep dying from this deadly desease simply because they'd much rather watch Generations and Bold and the beautiful. But the question is what do we learn from these sopies ???

Intersexion was an eye opner for me it made me go for an HIV test and when I found out that i was HIV negetive I was so happy that ive never had sex ever since and it made me more cautious .

I personaly think it is a great show and I will keep watching !

nice
09 Feb 2011 14:19

tjo carino, I think the article posted by Cheesa had an effect on your thoughts

Spineli
09 Feb 2011 14:19

Tjo Pru, Brooke's eldest son even chowed Taylor & her daughers.

Back to Intersexion...it scares the crap out me. Even though it's a bore but it educates some of us.

Weiss
09 Feb 2011 14:21

Wow @ yall comments... I dont even know this Intersexion but I get the picture now. My mood has improved Im just Lmao right now!

Weiss
09 Feb 2011 14:22

Wow @ yall comments... I dont even know this Intersexion but I get the picture now. My mood has improved Im just Lmao right now!

makisto
09 Feb 2011 14:28

What bores you about it makisto? Break it down for me assemblief

1. The show started as one of the few best thing to happen to SA TV.
2. It was interesting and had engaging stories, then suddenly, with 7 episodes to go
3. They are telling us the same old resashed stories of you father and son sleeping with the same person without adding creativity into the mix
3. The stories are starting to become so Soul City
4. The: "The men I have slept with I have slept with I can count them in my one hand" is now torturing viewers because I for one cannot take that for 25 episodes
5. Last night's episode was just nje and I expected better than just nje
6. They need to start showing condoms on the show. Do we really still have young people who have sex without a condom though they don't know "the person's surname" and don't even initiate condom talk
7. Edutainment should be about a guy and a girl wanting to have sex, the guys doesn't wanna use a condom and the lady isn't sure if that's the right thing but because she wants to please her man, she agrees to nam ka nama. Of course this will have to be done in an entertaining way and remain true to Intersexions style.
8. How can a show claiming to wish to educate people about sexual live never show us one person who refuses to fall prey of some situations
9. It has been dragging on for far too long. Every show on its first season is granted 13 episodes only but I don't know who Intersexions producers bribed at SABC 1. Solly Mokoetle perhaps? Just kidding.

Savanah Dry
09 Feb 2011 14:39

You guys are being too analytical and in the process miss a lot of things and expect everything to be spelt out. In a 30 minute episode its impossible bathong, and there are some bits and pieces that are left to the viewer.

I agree with you , i think they are leaving a lot for us to think and really analyse all these situations and come up with yr own conclusion..why is it that people want everything in black and white , think out of the box....

The whole story is based on the Idea of you dont know who u r sleeping with so at the end of the day... they have to use that tag line whenever they start otherwise someone watching it for the first will not understand it...you cant expect Nedbank and Fnb to change their tag line jus coz u r bored of hearing it.....
Though some episodes seemed like they were rather boring the message gets to you somehow... People will never be satisfied something new comes we complain we get repeats we complain Give local content a chance hw many movies have we watched that are same and we keep going for more if they are internation...??

babye
09 Feb 2011 14:40

i also lazy to work hey

makisto
09 Feb 2011 14:41

People will never be satisfied something new comes we complain we get repeats we complain
When the show did well, we clapped hands, now that they are losing the plot in some way, we cannot be expected to keep quite about it lol

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 14:46

nna im just lazy alrround, wish i hadnt even started that experiment id be going to sleep now.

To me, intersexion is still on the top 5 of things i look forward to watching every week, ima add Ekasi to the list. What i love about it is that, while connected yes, it is different stories everyweek, that way it doesnt get boring like a soapy. I think its alryt.
I think even the episodes that seemed boring, some people out there related to them.

nice
09 Feb 2011 14:47

4. The: "The men I have slept with I have slept with I can count them in my one hand" is now torturing viewers because I for one cannot take that for 25 episodes

Cant do anything about this except tell you sing along like the son that sings to his mom

8. How can a show claiming to wish to educate people about sexual live never show us one person who refuses to fall prey of some situations

(i)Tsholofelo refused to sleep with the chef
(ii)The coloured chick, freedom fighter, refused to sleep with her husband after she discovered that she was sleeping with Ruth

7. Edutainment should be about a guy and a girl wanting to have sex, the guys doesn't wanna use a condom and the lady isn't sure if that's the right thing but because she wants to please her man, she agrees to nam ka nama.

That is mainly teenage stuff, things that Molete can say to the choir children, but this should not be an adult to adult conversation. Adults should do it cos they want to, not to please the other

3. The stories are starting to become so Soul City

They are both edutainment shows they are bound to have some similarities, think soapies all have something in common

I cant say much about creativity as each person has their own taste. Yesterday's episode may have been boring to you but I saw Ntando change through it and he confused me. He was first rude to his dad, because he was upset about his abseentism in his life and he went on to blaming himself for his parents divorce. He slept with a woman, and ignored his dad's advice and out of spite possibly slept with her withount a condom.

You made the episode about Sylvia and Molete, but for me this was Ntando's role and journey and that is what kept me glued, Ntando and other extra's in his life

makisto
09 Feb 2011 14:51

I was just disappointed by last night's episode.

each person has their own taste
You have summed it well and I shall leave it there lol Nice.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 14:53

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Tjo tjo tjo tjo tjo tjo tjo
Trust TVSA blogger to reach the 100 marck on a topic like this lol.

carino
09 Feb 2011 14:54

The point remains: This Intersexions thing would've done right in 13 episodes. Or at least taken a break and come with Season 2. Its the ongoing tautology that has bored the masses. Every episode is teaching the same thing - I'm not sure why we should be told 24 times that - be careful who you sleep with - like we are listening to a Mzwakhe Mbuli poem. nee maan..

makisto
09 Feb 2011 15:00

Its the ongoing tautology that has bored the masses.
Thank you Carino, I think that's what I have been trying to say all along and didn't know how to put it.

episode is teaching the same thing - I'm not sure why we should be told 24 times that - be careful who you sleep with - like we are listening to a Mzwakhe Mbuli poem. nee maan..
Loling but true Cariri, we need a new message now. The whole be careful thing, hai, it's become too much now. They should let them take a break now and come back in 2013. We have had enough Intersexions to last us for 2 years lol.

nice
09 Feb 2011 15:03

Some see this as a drama, and some as a series

I dont get bored from watching CSI, Law and order. Even if they are solving crimes every week.

What I agree with you though is that I am not sure who is infected and not anymore, because the condom doesnt feature and as much as there are cheaters some use condoms and the cycle somehow breaks.

The length of it, the episodes and the turn of events has not bored me. I will continue to watch till episode 26 to see how they are all linked

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 15:06

I'm not sure why we should be told 24 times that - be careful who you sleep with....at this point nna im just enjoying the story more than i am touched by the aids message. The Aids message are very hard to relate to anyhow unless i think outside my box/world. Couldnt relate to the prison aids story, i was just shocked like was ke the yizo yizo rape storyline, couldnt relate tot he gay guys aids story, nor the duma one, not even this one, from the aids prespective that is. The aids message tautoly aside, i look at it as collage of awesumely produced short stories, like ekasi. But on the side i pause and acknowledge that even though i may not relate to the aids part of the story, some one does and this is even more relevant for them. I will always appreciate the concept, not the individual episodes for really plastering in my face the fact that i need to be carefull, i need to know who my future hubby will have slept with etc.

Having suffered so many terrible dramas, this is so well done i could have it forever.

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 15:08

Some see this as a drama, and some as a series . I dont get bored from watching CSI, Law and order. Even if they are solving crimes every week. yebo mama..

makisto
09 Feb 2011 15:08

I will continue to watch till episode 26 to see how they are all linked
We are not saying we are goint to stop watching, for me at least not yet. I'm gonna give them a chance to redeem themselves in the remaining 7 episodes and if by the remaining few they still don't improve, I will so mara change channels lol.

nice
09 Feb 2011 15:08

I say the HIV/AIDS be drummed until people's behaviour changes.

As long as there are people out there that believe that HIV ia a myth, then such stories must be given airplay, bribe or no bribe.

makisto
09 Feb 2011 15:10

Couldnt relate to the prison aids story, i was just shocked like was ke the yizo yizo rape storyline, couldnt relate tot he gay guys aids story, nor the duma one, not even this one, from the aids prespective that is

Tjo, everyone has Aids in the story? Mos bjanong go ra gore I get bored during the show and think about other things while watching TV!

zam.ngcobo
09 Feb 2011 15:11

I say the HIV/AIDS be drummed until people's behaviour changes.
My point axactly Nice !!!

nice
09 Feb 2011 15:15

I think next week we are going to see Sylvia meeting and sleeping with another man. We have see Ntando for three episodes, his time is up

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 15:19

aowa makisto...the reason im not bored is that the message is NOT the only thing i like about the series. If i needed that message personally, i'd be bored. The intersexion concept will always represent the genaral message that i should know what my patner has been up to etc. But the individual dramas have told stories i found fascinating. At the top, the most fascinating story for me was that of the coloured activist woman, that story could have hit me hard even without any mention of hiv/aids.....

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2011 15:20

aowa makisto...the reason im not bored is that the aids message is NOT the only thing i like about the series. If i needed that message personally, i'd be bored. The intersexion concept will always represent the genaral message that i should know what my patner has been up to etc. But the individual dramas have told stories i found fascinating. At the top, the most fascinating story for me was that of the coloured activist woman, that story could have hit me hard even without any mention of hiv/aids.....

liya2010
09 Feb 2011 15:54

i think its high time they show us some1 who is HIV+ teaching others abt the disease & showing them the importance of using a condom

carino
09 Feb 2011 16:06

I think overall, Intersexions was a great concept to hit SA TV at this time that I did. They have good storyline ideas, yes, we are not denying that. All we are crying for is THE END, tlhe bathong.

Wabona if each episode had a different angle then we wouldnt mind the 25 repetitions. But every week we are left with the same after thought - be careful who you sleep with - you never know who they have slept with blah blah.

I mean, we got that with the first 3 episodes already. Can we now fast forward to solutions already. All that's happening now is that they are doing is we are being taught 25 ways you can contact HIV.

Savanah Dry
09 Feb 2011 16:18

I mean, we got that with the first 3 episodes already. Can we now fast forward to solutions already. All that's happening now is that they are doing is we are being taught 25 ways you can contact HIV.

Cant help laugh at the above but guys am i the only one who sees the many things in life that they highlight...

Prison scene -
Gays
kids getting pregnant by teachers
Women who leave their work coz of men..tht indian who became housewife
When u think u have everything life can turn arnd that sugar momy felize who lost her job became nothing
The xenophobia capetown
Housing the strikes and demonstrations...
The women named after roads how a man can have twenty wives believe me it happens ...
Oh can i even go on and on ...

babye
09 Feb 2011 16:44

in that note ' the men i have slept with i can count them in one hand.' Class
'its not the number but.......

have a lovely evening

zam.ngcobo
09 Feb 2011 16:57

am i the only one who sees the many things in life that they highlight...

Prison scene -
Gays
kids getting pregnant by teachers
Women who leave their work coz of men..tht indian who became housewife
When u think u have everything life can turn arnd that sugar momy felize who lost her job became nothing
The xenophobia capetown
Housing the strikes and demonstrations...
The women named after roads how a man can have twenty wives believe me it happens ...
Oh can i even go on and on ... Thank you very very much Savanah Dry :-) I like your choice of name by the way !

PruLuv
09 Feb 2011 21:08

I'm a huge fan of Intersexions(clearly). In a country where HIV is rife, with a number of new infections daily, Intersexions is playing an effective role. We didn't change our ways when LOVELIFE ran their endless campaigns. Still people don't condomise with free condoms available. People are not getting the message, so let it be hammered into their heads until new infections & reinfections are at a minimum

PruLuv
09 Feb 2011 21:08

mysista
15 Feb 2011 12:48

The intersexions is scary because in most of the story lines the people involved have genuine feelings for each other , but this does not stop them from " killing" each other, What we as a society need to ask ourselves is this: is a person's right to privacy... that is I can test for HIV and be sick and decide not to tell my sexual partners and in the process infect them... or are people's right to life greater: that is should people not perhaps be forced to test and then to disclose... What I am asking is this should people with HIV not be marked visualy in some way , that we can all see So that those still not infected ie is the majority ( I read in the department of health stats that something like 1 out of five south africans are negative)... this means that 80% are well but are threatened by the 20% that are not well.So this is the question to we take aways the right to privacy for the 20% by marking them in order to protect the lives of the 80%... Do not get me wrong this is purely a question... And obviously my answer will depend on which catergory I belong to, wether it is the 80% or the 20%... What do you think?

mysista
15 Feb 2011 12:55

I do not think I was very eloquent in my question, but this is what I wanted to ask...When you have rights that compete with each other ie is the right to privacy competing with the right to life...which right should take precedent, ? which right should be more important ?

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