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Written by TheObserver from the blog TheTVObserver on 26 Jan 2009
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Before we start some health professionals would say I should ask “would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS? instead of "would you date someone who is HIV/AIDS+?". I think everyone gets the point of my question without having to go all technical, besides I am not writing a thesis.

This is very simple in my opinion, HIV is a virus which leads to AIDS. The two are intricately linked.

Would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS?

It’s a question that I have been thinking about lately and since a reader suggested I do a blog about the matter. I was further encouraged by my commitment to Bloggers Unite which provided good reasons for me to put together this entry. I decided to observe as usual and show’s like Scandal offer a very cleaned up form of the reality. On the AIDS side, Angels In Americas was a television event which bravely showed us the downside of HIV/AIDS. Soul City, Isidingo and many other shows address the issue.


Although I think it’s more common these days to find couples where one of them has either AIDS or HIV, it is not without a constant reminder. But then those couples are always with HIV+ individuals who are taking very good care of themselves. This brings me to the packaging ideology which people seem to have and a direct function of the human relationship system. When someone goes to gym and looks great, you tend to be willing to understand their HIV+ condition as opposed to someone who looks like they are going to drop dead any second. Same as when you meet a person who does not have the disease but doesn’t pay as much attention to how they package themselves.

The issue: You do not have HIV/AIDS but you are presented with a possibility of dating a person you really like, but that individual is HIV+ or has /AIDS. Do you continue dating them or do you run as fast as you can?


Or you date someone you like and you find out they are either HIV+ or have AIDS. What do you do? Ask them point blank or just make up excuses and break things off?

You may think it’s an easy decision to make, but take a moment to think about this situation. You meet someone you really like and everything is going so well, you feel as if you are on top of the world until at date number four when, after obvious heated sexual attraction, he or she tells you that they are HIV/AIDS positive.


What do you do? Cry if you are female? or Storm out when you are male? This is after your face goes cold from the instant rush of blood away from you face.

When you date someone who has Cancer or any other medial disease which is long term, we are almost always very compassionate and very loving. However with HIV/AIDS we immediately think twice and stay clear, when you’re newly found boyfriend or girl friend tells you that they have the disease. This is the disease that has torn families apart and destroyed the fabric of man kind not to mention created a new level of lies and deceit.


I personally think it’s critical that you tell me on day one, so that if I continue with the relationship I now exactly where we stand. If my last blog is anything to go by, we already know that the relationship game is riddled with secrets and lies. Someone can look into your eyes and tell the most amazing bunch of horse *bleep!* and you believe them in the hopes of finding Mr or Miss Right.

The question here folks is…..would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS?

Comment #1
Honestly, I was a nervous wreck, even after doing my research. We're educated about protecting ourselves from the virus in healthcare, but not much is said about having a relationship with an HIV+ person. Mentally, I was not prepared. My heart would be pounding as I lay in bed at night while he slept beside me snoring. I was so scared thinking about the "what ifs". At times I could tell he was nervous because he would say that he didn't want be responsible for harming me. There are medications which an HIV- person can take which may be preventative. However, it's still a virus that is not very well understood and there is no 100% fail proof method of prevention.

We are no longer dating- but for other reasons. Would I do it again? I don't know... you have to be a strong person. Mentally strong to ignore your fears, strong enough to ignore the cultural "stigma" that surrounds the virus and strong enough to be safe, consistently - all the time. It hurts to hear my friends make ignorant comments not knowing that I was dating someone who was HIV+. But I was also one of those ignorant people at one time.


Comment #2
I am not disputing the fact that people with HIV aren't nice people and I am sure most were dealt a very bad hand. However, I don't think comparing someone dying from cancer can stack up against someone with HIV. You can't catch cancer, but you can contract HIV from a partner. I would like to think of myself as an open minded person and I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I am also a very honest person and I KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that I couldn't knowingly date someone that is infected.


Comment #3
To be honest, I don't know. I would have to say that being HIV+ wouldn't be the only factor in dating or not dating a person. If we have similar likes & dislikes, interests, hobbies, & outlook onlife, I would say that no, HIV would not prevent me from dating that person. For me dating doesn't mean having sex. Dating to me is the "Old Fashioned" definition, getting to know someone beyond the surface. If it ended up becoming a relationship, down the line, I would already be emotionally into the person & HIV status wouldn't prevent me from continuing the relationship.



Comment #4
I'm just being honest. If the person confirms that he/she is HIV+ I absolutely would not be interested in any romantic or sexual relationship with that person. No exceptions. I don't care how interesting or attractive they are.


Now that you have formed an opinion, think about this. Do you think you would deal with dating someone with Genital Herpes better than the one who is  HIV+ or has AIDS? Keep in mind that there is currently no cure that can eradicate herpes virus from the body.



On Scandal, that couple ended up marrying each other. Would you do that?

I think this is the most important question you could ever ask yourself in the pursuit of your own happiness especially when it comes to companionship. Some of you have never even thought about this and sadly you may be faced with this question the day you meet the person you like.


What happens when you find your negative partner and you get married, have children and he brings the bug home? How would you deal with that?

It’s happening to a lot of married couples. Some expect it to be the guy but increasingly women are also spreading.

This is a very sensitive subject for a lot of people. If you are not HIV+ or AIDS, you can never fathom what those who are positive go through emotionally and physically. I also have no idea, what I have observed thus far is enough to put me off sex for a long time. But then I remind myself that a simple mistake with blood at a local hospital (even if its a private facility) can see me become a statistic.


What scares me the most…..are the stories of the condom breaking during sex! This is a source of my nightmares, since I started investigating this blog. Can you imagine, there you are mourning in ecstasy hitting your sexual notes of pleasure like a pro that only you are, and all of a sudden the joy ride is cut short because the sentence; ”*bleep!* baby….I think the condom broke”….. come out of your partners mouth with such urgency and concern that your BP “blood pressure” goes from HOT to EXTREME COLD in nanoseconds.

Then comes the question….what happened?….well hello…. pleasure Queen…we have been having sex and you kept saying I should go harder! …Can you imagine! A true source of sleepless nights!

All of a sudden the entire week seems like eternity as you make plans to go for tests and having to think relentlessly about what you should and shouldn’t have done. The sad part is that your stress will always show the HIV positive partner your true feelings, no mater how much you try to hide and he would feel guilty that he put you in danger.



I had a pleasure of meeting a lady who cared for her husband who had AIDS and she was faced with an arduous task of feeding him, bathing him, dressing his sores, changing his nappies, giving him medication and a laundry list of stuff including going to work to earn a living to continue paying bills. The husband’s family did not lift a finger, although she knew she was also infected she loved her husband till the day she buried him. When she showed me pictures of the guy in that condition, I could not go past picture seven. I would not want to say I can never do what she did, since what she did was a commitment to the loving she had for her husband, and even if the hubby loved her and left her with a ticked to join him.  She really loved him.


I found the story very hard to deal with, especially when I asked, “Did you ever talk about him infecting you?, she cried and quickly calmed herself down like a pro and said with a very strong face. “He knew that I found out and at the time, I just needed to look after my husband. The people who gave him the disease where not there at all hours taking care of him in his child like state, I was alone” She continues by saying “I loved him and our family. I had to be strong for our child and no one was there to help. They all came to check if he had died”. I then ask her to stop!

Would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS?

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73 Comments

DJ Why why
26 Jan 2009 05:49

You meet someone you really like and everything is going so well, you feel as if you are on top of the world until at date number four when, after obvious heated sexual attraction, he or she tells you that they are HIV/AIDS positive.

Honestly? Call me whatever ...maara whatever happens after that , wud nt lead to umdavazo.  I wud understand if i were on the otherside.

Serenity
26 Jan 2009 08:05

Would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS? 
 
A BIG NO for me personnally. 
Although i am well educated about the disease...i will probably still worry when getting intimate...especially when kissing ...scary thought!!! 

tha - bang
26 Jan 2009 08:21

tough questions observer .i believe if u truely love the person i will i know a guy who married someone who was hiv positive.so yes,but the person wouls have to be really really special

felfel
26 Jan 2009 08:33

No, i wouldn't wanna gamble with my life in that way, its one thing having a condom break with someone who's status you don't know its another throwing yourself in a lion's den.

If he's turns out positive after we been together for years and i'm negative, i would leave him on the basis that he cheated on me. 

Msoe
26 Jan 2009 09:06

Im pretty much sadden that there are still people like ya'll who think that HIV/AIDS people are not worth to be loved or be in a relationship. Your comments above suggest to me that you people only date people because of sex. Also it suggests that you dont know anything about the desease. Have you ever thought that you might get HIV when you sleeping with someone you dont know has it even if you are wearing a condom? You cant tell me that you guys always are careful when having sex because the condom doesnt cover the rest of your penis, the top tip of it mostly rubs by the fluid of your female partner. That you might get it. I would certainly date someone with HIV because to me it is just another chronic desease and that doesnt mean i am +. They are also people and bealive me they are the most loving people you will ever meet because somehow they view life differently from people who are -.

pkpage
26 Jan 2009 09:35

WOW what a mouthful, it now gets me thinking even harder about what i just discussed with my roommate: would you date someone infected?
we were talking about a scenario of a chick that left a guy because he was infected.To me i found that action reasonable because it's no use saying that you will be there for that person when you gonna hurt him even more.Let's face it, we are not yet arrived to a stage whereby we are not afraid of this virus (and that's a fact).

Well now,the question was (i) directed at me. the impulse answer i gave without even much to think was...not to continue with the relationship.
REASON:1.afraid, 2.not mentally and emotionally strong to deal with it, 3because of my actions and atitude i would hurt the person even more. to mention just a few but the list goes on

Nonny
26 Jan 2009 09:44

interesting read.

TheLady
26 Jan 2009 09:46

I wouldn't date someone who is positive (full blown AIDS ah hell no)...I know I sound insensitive, uncaring and maybe stupid-but if you haven't lived with somoeone (or people in my case) who are positive or in the ARV stage it's easier to just say you'd stay with the person no matter what.

I for one am not willing to worry about one more person with this desease, it's torture seating there trying to be srong for this human being when you are freaking out yourself, rubbing their back when they are hugging a toilet seat because they haven't found the correct ARVs, I do not wish to worry about getting it everytime I  have intercourse too! Nope I have enough on my plate-thank you very much.

makgotso
26 Jan 2009 10:04

Would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS? 

I will if I love him so much but to think of him being sick eishhhh it makes me wonder if I will be able to take care of him,because I'm scared of a sick person. It's even difficult for me just to go to the hospital to check someone I force myself to go there because even the hospital smell makes me sick. 





pitch
26 Jan 2009 10:26

What an eye-opener Observer and as for you Msoe, i really admire your courage hey...you such a brave person and i wish and hope if everyone could see things in a matured way the way you do.....

I believe this country need more people like you, people who are positive about life. Keep it up the way you are doing it my dear and May God Richly Bless You.

Im also not better than other people but i never thought it that way...i believe people we are very ignorant and that's what killing people. God said: my people will die or perish because of lack of knowledge.

Very good article Observer!

Toodecent
26 Jan 2009 10:50

I would... HIV is just another desease and having it doesnt mean am gonna get infected too. Another thing its not a death sentence or whatever people refer to...People live a healthy life with this desease when even when they pass you wouldnt tell it was it cuase they would be looking normal.

NtandoN
26 Jan 2009 10:52

My answer to that would be a big No, never even on the Sunday morning. Maybe I'm just an overgrown baby or plain immature I don't know.

I always thought that I have enough info about HIV/AIDS and so forth, anyway they talk about it everywhere radio, tv and newspapers. 

I also believed that I won't have a problem dating someone who is HIV+ as it doesn't determine who they are but a virus that lives in a person until I met my now both ex boss and ex girlfriend a year ago.

This woman was everything I have ever wanted in a woman, she has both inner and outer beauty, educated, intelligent, ambitious I mean everything. We hooked up the very first day she interviewed me for a position in her department.

She told me she was HIV+ when were we away for a weekend in Mozambique and i was about to have an intercourse with her. My penis has never gone from fully erect to being limp in such a short time in my life. I was angry, disappointed, scared and thereafter ended the relationship.

I also had to leave the department as we were both not comfortable anymore.

Nonny
26 Jan 2009 10:57

My penis has never gone from fully erect to being limp in such a short time in my life.
LMAO at the way u put it here.

Serenity
26 Jan 2009 10:58

My penis has never gone from fully erect to being limp in such a short time in my life. 

LOL...sorry man!! 
At least she was honest and  told you upfront!!!

Nonny
26 Jan 2009 11:05

At least she was honest and told you upfront!!!
True Serenity, mina I have been begging a friend of mine to tell her man that she is HIV+ for the past 3 years. So ke I have giving up, coz vele what kind of a man dates a women for 3 years and not ask that they go for an HIV test together?

Dash
26 Jan 2009 11:11

I really understand most of you who say you won't do it. It's a scary thing to experience. I've never been in the situation before and I'm really not sure if I would date someone who's HIV+. I think it'll be simple to end a new realationship because you won't have a lot to loose. I'd  also respect tht person for being honest.

This woman was everything I have ever wanted in a woman, she has both inner and outer beauty, educated, intelligent, ambitious I mean everything. Shame hope there's still women like her. Sori neh.

faraimagic
26 Jan 2009 11:13

I would rather NOT comment! coz if i do it will be a wide LIE....but i wud say ...This wont be love!!!maybe you will be feeling sorry for the person!

blueroze
26 Jan 2009 11:35

i will probably still worry when getting intimate...especially when kissing ...scary thought!!! @ serenity~~~a big no for you. you cant get infected by kissing.

the only fliuds that tranfer the virus are sexual fluids ie semen; viginal and blood. the blood muct be suficient and not exposed to air for a long time and in contact with another cut or something.

these are the only ways i know you can get infected, when you have a sexual encounter with one individual who is or through blood 

but it takes a courageous person to date a + person fully aware of their status.

i think one must go to councelling after making such a decision to prepare for all they are getting into.

in my case if i was dating someone and discover that they are for *whatever* reason +; i will end things if i'm - because it means that person cheated on me. 
but if i have met an interesting person whom i like or love and is +; i will give them a fair chance for dates only.......not be in a relationship with them.  

without being judgememtal most of the people who got the virus were promiscuos *if its the correct spelling*

for as long as i play safe, i will not date a + individual. that is like playing with fire for me.

Nonny
26 Jan 2009 11:56

promiscuos *if its the correct spelling*
hhahahha I guess ur inner being was telling u, it's not the right one coz it's "promiscuous"

felfel
26 Jan 2009 12:15

Good for you Msoe its your decision and everyone else has their own. No-one said HIV+ people don't deserve love and noone said they deserve extra love. This is not about descriminating against them, i may not want to date a posititve person while i may embrace my own brother who may be positive.
Different strokes for different folks, some niggas don't date chix with corns on their feet some do, chix with corns deserve love too.......lol 

NtandoN
26 Jan 2009 12:15

I always wish I could have handled the matter in a matured and level headed manner but my inner being failed me.

What makes me feel guilty sometimes is that she used to give me scenarios and asked what would I do in future if she loses an eye, a leg and even be HIV+ and my response was: I'll always love you no matter what baby, I fell in love with you as a person other things do not matter"

I just couldn't imagine myself looking after a sick person, changing diapers and so on as I am young and have my whole life ahead of me.

Serenity
26 Jan 2009 12:22

@ Blueroze...I know sweety!!
What i meant was the thought of kissing...will bug me or may be will not settle down well.

Firstdvd
26 Jan 2009 12:24

@Msoe ~ ur da best ;-)

Firstdvd
26 Jan 2009 12:29

@NtandoN...Life if full of surprises boet and it's not guaranteed!

realist
26 Jan 2009 12:33

without being judgememtal most of the people who got the virus were promiscuos *if its the correct spelling*
Like you said most, what about those who are not? I guess it will make sense once you and your partner when you decide not to use protection to go for an HIV test just in case you start blaming each other. Whether myself I will I am not sure. That would depend once I have done all the consultation necessary to see whether it is worth it. To say that there is such a thing called true love is crap. There is no such a thing and I stand by that.

therapy
26 Jan 2009 12:39

i would definately date someone who is + as long as there is love .honesty,caring.what matters most is happiness,if we make each other happy,then why not commiting ourself into a relationship.

there are couples who are - but still not happy,

lest not run away from the situation but deal with it.

myname
26 Jan 2009 12:55

Eish i cant read ur replies, i have 2 eat 1st but there is a close couple i know. The man is HIV & the woman is not. And the guy tried to terminate the relationship after he found out but the lady refused. Guys they adore each other & the lady is so supportive. ..The last time i talked to them, they were talking about marriage. But if it was me, i really dont know what i would do ...serious!

Best-Achiever
26 Jan 2009 13:06

Interesting rticle and responses...Great work again TheObs.

Dash
26 Jan 2009 13:10

To say that there is such a thing called true love is crap. There is no such a thing and I stand by that

I also use to think there’s no such thing called true love until I met my soul mate, the love of my life and my true love. True love can’t be explained, it can only be experienced. True love is what this woman did. Even though she got infected by her husband, she loved him till the end.

tshepiso
26 Jan 2009 13:13

Would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS? 

Eishhhhhhhhh............ I don't know how to answer this one.Two of my ex-lovers are  already barried. the rumous is they died on AIDS, But the family don't say anything to me. 

Mara I am 102% NEGATIVE  - By the way,,,, we used CONDOMS wayawaya..

realist
26 Jan 2009 13:20

Eishhhhhhhhh............ I don't know how to answer this one.Two of my ex-lovers are already barried. the rumous is they died on AIDS, But the family don't say anything to me.

Mara I am 102% NEGATIVE - By the way,,,, we used CONDOMS wayawaya..
How do you know? Did you take an HIV test after the fact? BTW, you are some freaking woman I tell you.

Cande
26 Jan 2009 13:38

you are some freaking woman I tell you. >>>huh??

maud
26 Jan 2009 14:06

i would'  definately would. its not all positive people get sick and wear diapers, i once had a crush to this guy, everyone knew that he was possible, by then HIV  was considered as a death sentence, but i loved him so much although he was too weak to notice , unfortunately he passed away . i still think if i was given a chance i might have had a relationship with him.
 

DJ Why why
26 Jan 2009 14:08

you are some freaking ****** woman I tell you. >>>huh??

tlt lt tl...i am sure there is a word missing like, *responsible, lucky, smart* along those lines....

anywho:

My friend  was in Kokstad (after her car broke down, nearby) and a madman jumped grabbed her arm and she was bleeding seconds later...She was put on ARVs for 6 months after her test came back negative...those things made her soooo sick, she quit on her 3rd day....

And she is sitting and waiting for the next results after 6 months....what if they come back positive? I was sitting there not knowing what to say..... none of that was her fault...but what if the crazee person did infect her?

I do understand that it is not always the carrier's fault but i wud nt be able to give them the support they need....maybe if i really loved them i wud learn maara yhazi...who knows?

blackmagee
26 Jan 2009 14:13

to the "realist", i think you are either a flippin liar or you are very lucky.what else does one call a person who bonks two hiv+ people and live to tell?

to the rest of the hipocrites around...people get into relationships for a lot of rasons,but i've never heard of getting into a relationship with someone on their way out.whats the point of starting a relationship with an hiv+ person?or one dying of aids?please educate me people.

to the original question...NO I WOULD NOT!

realist
26 Jan 2009 14:20

 BTW, you are some freaking woman I tell you.
I see I’m being misunderstood. What I meant by that statement is that Tshepiso never ceases to amaze when she post anything on any article. I was not referring to bonking of two men. It is not my business who she bonks and I was referring to her as an amazing woman. I presume you now got it.

Toodecent
26 Jan 2009 14:35

To say that there is such a thing called true love is crap. There is no such a thing and I stand by that.>>> Kanti in which world some people are living in mara? And I wouldnt be suprised that realist is a woman...cause most women say such.

what aka mathata
26 Jan 2009 14:39

YES i did,is not like i want att** as haters always says,HIV is not a killing decease,STRESS is.

his CD4 count was more than 2000,he was taking medication n life did go on.

i think ppl we differ a lot they way  we reason n they we looked at life.HIV is like any sickness,the problem is this one when you have it,one thing comes to ppls mind.....bitchy.......,is not always the case,n is how we teach our minds.

i was born with cardiac problem,anytime i can die but i dont look life like that,so for someone being HIV i take it as part of decease.

to my opinion the person who have cardiac problem n someone whos HIV,the person whos HIV has chance to live longer than myself.

so it depend how we teach ourself with HIV,

realist
26 Jan 2009 14:40

TDC: Your point being.... I am waiting.

cleve
26 Jan 2009 14:53

@ realist, I believe that there is love out there. You just need to be patient to find it.

realist
26 Jan 2009 15:03

@ TDC and Cleve: Just to be sure, when does a man become a husband and like wise when does woman become a wife. Is it not after they sign their death warrant? If one partner wants out then you will see how binding that piece of paper is. Now tell me where is true love? I still maintain there is love before marriage and tolerance and commitment once you have signed your death warrant. It goes both ways when I say death warrant.

Remember you do not leave in Isolation so do not come and tell there is such a thing called true love. If you cannot explain it then it does not exist. 

And I wouldnt be suprised that realist is a woman...cause most women say such.
You probably looked at yourself first before coming to that conclusion, right?

Sam2say
26 Jan 2009 15:07

IF THY LOOK ANTHING LIKE THE GUY ON THE FIRST PIC...........HELLLL YEEEEHHHHH!!!!!








Sorry excuse my ignorance. KA DLALA.

LM
26 Jan 2009 15:08

And I wouldnt be suprised that realist is a woman...cause most women say such.
You probably looked at yourself first before coming to that conclusion, right? hi hi hi hi hi hi hi...LMAO..

Sam2say
26 Jan 2009 15:11

I think I would...........

Though I would think really hard bout going ecantsini nabo. We'll have to take serious measures, consult doctors and got to supporting organisations and staff.

I would be really carefull.

Toodecent
26 Jan 2009 15:13

I will refrain myself from ruining Observer's article as its not my wish and I can.So in the name of happy blogging and being on topic this is my response and last meant for you realist.

Amza
26 Jan 2009 15:20

Never say Never, that is all I have to say.....

realist
26 Jan 2009 15:23

Thank you TDC
Observer: apology for not sticking to the topic at hand. Will never happen again.

pameng2003
26 Jan 2009 15:57

i guess one wud have to put oneself in the receiving end like what if i was the one with hiv/aids would i appreciate people running away from me..mina personally i dont know shem i wud be scared to be in a relationship with a positive person.

what aka mathata
26 Jan 2009 16:29

being HIV is not like you  buy candy at shoprite,you dont choose to be like that,BUT the are some ppl who choose to dig into that road.

if you are poor or HIV ppl dont want you around WHY MAARA?if miracle happened to Michael Johnson,it can happen to anyone whos HIV.

aslong they accept n loves themself,i dont think they  expert  anyone to love them.

if you have glass house pls dont throw rocks to other ppl.one day reality will catch ppl..........

Best-Achiever
26 Jan 2009 18:32

Would you date someone who is HIV+ or has AIDS?

it is one thing to date someone and later find out that s/he is HIV+, and dating someone that you know is HIV+ and you are not ..i can only describe as unconditional love which is very very brave ....To me that would only mean that person real loves you, for better and for worse.

it is one thing caring for a HIV+ relative and another thing getting into a relationship with a HIV+ person ....

would i do it.
i tried to think and imagined my current relationship ..i always believe that i'm in love and i have been thinking about this since i read this article and trying to be honest with what i would have done if my BF told me that he was HIV+ ..but up until now i don't have a strict answer ....it is a very emotional and phyisical challenge and as it is now i can only say ..i would cross that bridge when i get to it.

Brown Shuga
26 Jan 2009 18:45

<<<IF THY LOOK ANTHING LIKE THE GUY ON THE FIRST PIC...........HELLLL YEEEEHHHHH!!!!!>>>> LOL Sam2Say, I feel you!!!

To answer your question Observer, my answer is NO, I wouldn't. 
I've probably dated someone who is + without knowing they were positive but I wouldn't do it if I knew and that's not because I'm ignorant Msoe, it's just that I'd always be conscious of everything we do.....even when we get intimate, there'd be too many restrictions when it comes to foreplay....
Someone VERY close to me is positive so I know what it means to be "affected".


Tshd21
26 Jan 2009 19:05

I would. I believe that HIV is just a desease and doesn't determine who a person is, what they'd been up to or where they are going. 

After living my whole life with a person who had a desease, a desease that many mocked her for, a desease that restricted her to do things she wanted to do, or go places she wanted to go, at the risk of being sick in front of people and them judging her, HIV is something that I can just look at as a desease, nothing more, nothing less...

And relationships are not just about sex.....or an infected person getting sick and you stuck with having to take care of him/her . WTF???

We all have choices, but most of them, unfortunately, are based on nothing but ignorance.

Great article TheO.......and the first pic....hmmmnmnm....some serious eye candy right there!! tl tl tl

zo
26 Jan 2009 20:47

I am a healthcare worker working with HIV, if iwere given an opportunity to choose a chronic disease, I would choose HIV anytime. very manageable.

and to answer the question: yes I would.

Thanks BS for mentioning you might have dated someone who is HIV+ and you did nt know. With the stats as crazy as they are, every one you date is HUV+ until proven otherwise.

60 Plus Madala
27 Jan 2009 05:33

You meet someone you really like and everything is going so well, you feel as if you are on top of the world until at date number four when, after obvious heated sexual attraction, he or she tells you that they are HIV/AIDS positive
Why wait until 4th date?- I believe that a person must enter a relationship knowingly & willingly- have being given all tools (info) that will enable him/her to make such choices. There r things that require such information to be volunteered upfront - they include coz they will affect both parties in the relationship in one way or another- despite them being the ‘package’ of one party! Unless the previous 3 dates were ‘group date’ at some “after-church tea-party”, I’m afraid 4th date will be a bit too late…. especially if u both have reached ‘heated sexual attraction’- stage…! Although disclosing personal info like that may be difficult (considering how ignorant the society is), & u wud want 2 ensure that the person disclosing 2 is worth that ‘disclosure’- u can not delay the info on HIV status coz its just part of who u r, and yes, I feel strongly that if forms part of “you package” – If u only say this on 4th date, I will remain wondering that u will disclose another thing at date 8, 16, 24- or on the wedding nyt….!
OK, while at it…, the other things requiring upfront disclosures also include:
Children- all must de declared early ‘even if u got them while still @ high school, even if they r almost like yo sister/ brother coz granny looks after them, even if they were stolen by their father @ young age & u no longer consider them part of yo life, even if u gave them up 4 adoption, etc’  All of them, not just those close 2 u- they somehow 4m part of you as a ‘package’- allow the fellow partner to have this info b4 falling deep in love- sibone kakubi ku Khumbulekhaya…!
All previous marriages (& unfinished divorces) – even if the marriages were just ‘customary’/ traditional, & nothing was signed on paper – pliz disclose (even if u force to that marriage- King Mswati kidnap style- ukuthwalwa…)
If yo previous boyfriend was a thug (ligintsa)…. – somehow they just don’t go away; u may risk the life on yo new lover by not disclosing…
Previous criminal allegationseven if u were not convicted (…yes, yo new lover must know that u were once charged/ investigated 4 poisoning yo late husband…).
Eish, sorry Observer- back 2 the topic: the answer 4 me is I don’t know- I probable wud date HIV+ if I like the person, & I have entered that ‘loving state’ of the relationship knowingly & willingly

DJ Why why
27 Jan 2009 05:53

All previous marriages (& unfinished divorces) – even if the marriages were just ‘customary’/ traditional, & nothing was signed on paper – pliz disclose (even if u force to that marriage- King Mswati kidnap style- ukuthwalwa…)

If yo previous boyfriend was a thug (ligintsa)…. – somehow they just don’t go away; u may risk the life on yo new lover by not disclosing…

Poisoning husband......

ROTFLMAO, sho....kwa kwa kwa kwa.....@ stolen kids by ex......eish...ja u do nt wanna be shocked 15 years in the marriage....and be like, * WTH did i marry?*

60 Plus Madala
27 Jan 2009 08:21

ja u do nt wanna be shocked 15 years in the marriage....and be like, * WTH did i marry?*
Yeah DWW- u have no idea izinto ezivela ku KK- co of info whiach was not volunteered 'coz u never asked, or it never came up?- yhooooo sibonimihlola..!

Lentle
27 Jan 2009 10:19

There is nothing wrong to date anyone who is HIV posetive. The infection is not something worth seggregating people for. Infact one can be infected overnight. It is all our responsibilities as responsible citizens to fight against discrimination of HIV posetive people. I am HIV negative but indeed I could be posetive overnight as well for example wherether sexually or otherwise (Abstaining or Condomising i could be infected). We may not all be infected but we are all affected Ladies and Gentlemen !!! Lets all be responsible !!!

let baby
27 Jan 2009 10:25

am HIV+ and to tell the truth its sometimes painful to deal with the rejection... sometimes u just have to think about if it was u who was + how will u wan tppl to treat u... this is different from taking care of ur relatives or family cos u wont sleep or kiss them everyday....am so positive about life and am enjoying my life i wont let other ppl to detect for me... sometimes it hurt nd think wat if i dont tell some1 dat am + obvios l accept me but i will have to leave with the guilt. i once dated a guy and didnt tell him about my status everything was fine up until oneday i couldnt live with the guilt so i decided to tell me he was angry with me but now we r fine nd he didnt want to touch me again.. then b4 i start dating i started telling ppl about my status but it didnt work...
i know most of the ppl dont want to get this disease but u r somehow promoting the spread of it cos some1 who is infected wont say cos they r scared of being rejected..
Anyway I just trust in God cos He doesnt judge me He loves me the way i am

Msoe
27 Jan 2009 11:55

Let Baby you are such an inspiration. I will pray that God help you to live a healthy and a better life and yes gal HE DOES LOVE YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE. If people could only know how it feels than maybe they wouldnt be so scared and showing cowardness in the process. I know that the unknown is the scarriest thing ever, i just wish that most of you bloggers could be + just for a week and feel what people with this disease feel. My dad died from this sickness, i could safely say i know what it does to a person. Its also sad that most of the people who says they wouldnt date a + person dont even know their status. People with HIV are human beings as well, BS is your close friend a different person now just because he/she has it? Why is everything always about sex when two people are involved. For a second just wait, think if the person that you say you in love with now is positive what would you do.

Msoe
27 Jan 2009 12:01

Felfel positive people deserve extra love sisi because they are fragile, have mixed emotions and have to deal with so many things in their day to day life, unlike people who are - and those who think and want to beleive that they are-. Yes it is your right not to want to date a positive person but I would respect that if you were saying you not dating them because they are cheaters, rapists, abusers not just because they have a chronic desease.

ms.tebby
27 Jan 2009 12:39

personally I would date an HIV+ person as long as there is love, honesty between us& understanding. as I was reading thru the comments I was going to make a point that let baby made 'sometimes u just have to think about if it was u who was + how will u wan tppl to treat u'

makgotso
27 Jan 2009 12:52

@Let Baby - You are brave lady continue living a positive life and I will echo Msoe words GOD LOVES YOU and He doesn't see you with the different eye, we are all the same to Him. I will keep you in my prayers. May God give peace that surpasses human understanding.
 

maud
27 Jan 2009 13:09

@Let Baby - for the fact that you are with us here @ TVSA, it proves that you a living a positive life, i envy you, because at the moment  i dont know my status
what i know is that i have a heart condition,  my heart can stop beating and die as i writing here, but with you,you have a  choice to control your life and be happy. and i believe and know with all my heart that one day this decease will be cured and people like you will be the first once to be cured.

Lentle
27 Jan 2009 13:45

Indeed I wish all of you can continue to inspire and preach the posetiveness of life the way you are doing right now... With solidarity we will combat this disease with no compromise !!! Keep Strong Good People !!! It is all our responsibilities !!!!

ms.tebby
27 Jan 2009 13:55

@ maud...you have a choice to control your life and be happy...one day this decease will be cured....
 im with you there, valid point

Lover Girl
27 Jan 2009 14:37

Dating someone who is HIV+ or Have AIDS, mmmmmmmmm

I personally feel that it depends from one relationship to another, there are still people out there who doesnt want to disclose their status. I do really think that it is better to know both your status and draw up some plans. 

It will be better for me to date someone who i know her or his status, People who are infected are still able to date uninfected partners and still give birth to healthy kids, I didnt know that until one day when i heard Zola's (Zola 7) sister when she was explaining that on tv. 

Trust is the foundation to every relationship, Without trust then it will be a disaster. 

Lets be honest, play safe and be faithfull, always

what aka mathata
27 Jan 2009 14:41

LET B,tell yourself  virus will never run  your life,you are going to run your life they way you want,n im happy you do that,this is just a virus.

ppl out there they have big baggage but the wont tell,tell yourself how lucky you are to know who you are,sometimes situatian make s you strong.

God created us in many catagorys,we cant be the same in life.

some ppl are ugly But they have big heart
Rich but THEY HAVE CANCER
educated but they dont reason(MOGABE)
ALWAYS THEY MUST BE SOMETHING IN YOURLIFE TO SHAKE YOU.

i know this guy in SA ,his a magistrate his been HIV for more than 20yrs,n his proud to say im lucky,n i wish to be him.

Cande
27 Jan 2009 15:41

LOL @ MUgabe

babygal
27 Jan 2009 16:56

i am dating someone who is HIV + and has been in the 3 years that we've been dating, we found out athree months into our relationship, we got tested together the thought of leaving him never not once crossed my mind, to me he was and still is the person that i was praying for, i just took it as a test to our relationship and we are still going strong, he is amazing, the best if i can put it that way and yes we are considering getting married and having kids even though yena he does not think it's possible, mna i believe there is absolutely nothing impossible with God and He'll come thru for us, we will have everything we want. HIV is not just like any other desease because you can die from being diabetic as well that is if you dont take care of yourself.

DJ Why why
27 Jan 2009 17:01

Wow babygal, maara were you not scared at the beggining that you might also get the virus somehow?

Msoe
27 Jan 2009 17:08

Babygal, God bless you and your man. I wish you both all the luck. I would really suggest that you and your bf go to hiv conselors and find out how possible is it for you guys to have healthy uninfected kids, mina i know its possible but I am not a doctor or a medic its better you both go to proffessionals and seek information. You are a strong woman and just keep strong gal.

babygal
28 Jan 2009 09:05

DJ Why why - not really no i just thought we'll have to becareful thats all, nothing more.

by the way i meant to say HIV is like any other disease

Msoe: Well we have a very nice doctor that/who we go to whenever we need answers, he is very nice and try by all means to find the info for us if he doesn't have the info himself.

let baby
28 Jan 2009 09:59

babygal , God bless u i dont know i think everything is all in the mind


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