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Private Practice (10 February 2009)

Written by TVSA Team from the blog 3rd Degree on 10 Feb 2009
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Episode: Private Practice
Broadcast date: 10 February 2009 at 21h30
Channel: e.tv

“I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.”

So states the Hippocratic Oath - an oath traditionally taken by all medical practitioners. An oath ignored by Dr Labuschagne in the sleepy North West town of Schweizer Reneke and his colleague Dr Schmitz in Ventersdorp, who offer a very selective form of medical treatment.

The rules at their surgeries are very clear and observed by locals - black patients on the one side and whites on the other side.

Both doctors will treat white people on an appointment basis in their main surgeries, whether they have medical aid or not, but black people are given a number and made to queue in a separate waiting room, often for hours - no exceptions are made for emergencies.

Unacceptable apartheid style tactics still very much alive in 2009.

The 3rd Degree team went undercover to investigate and later expose these discriminatory practices. They confronted the doctors with the facts and set out to expose them for what they are - racists!






81 Comments

Ms. Jay
11 Feb 2009 10:15

is there a recap

Dimago
11 Feb 2009 10:35

Jael
I was SHOCKED to see that there are still people who act like this.  These drs have 2 seperate entrances for blacks and whites. They treat whites 1st and the blacks are treated once all the whites have been treated (which is usually after hours). The black side of the surgery has uncomfortable furniture and is serviced by a black receptionist. The 1 dr said he does that bcos balck people are poor and therefore charges lower fees i.e. R130 as opposed to R220 charged to white people. He also said its because most balcks do not have medical aid. 

When he was exposed for the racist that he is, he said he's closing down the segragated reception rooms and will only have 1. Debra said she'll follow up with him at the end of Feb. The one dr ran away from the cameras and was unrepantant.


Bottomline racism is very much alive in south africa, and it will not die in just 15yrs!!!!

ms.tebby
11 Feb 2009 10:37

eish those 2 doctors are racists, the other one literally ran away from the camera, i couldnt hear clearly the other one that agreed to be interviewed, visitors aggg!

nekzo
11 Feb 2009 10:56

Hayi-bo that is so sad

calamity
11 Feb 2009 11:03

The other guy also said that the HRC had investigated and had found that the practice was not racist, but when Third degree contacted the HRC, they confirmed that they had conducted an investigation but they were as yet to confirm whether or not the practice was racist or not.

SB0007
11 Feb 2009 11:06

Dr Labuschagne must pay for his racist, instead of solving the matter he decide to ran away from camera's, i was born in Schweizer-Reneke but studying in Mafikeng, i was'nt aware about this racism of Dr Labuschagne and Dr Schmitz in Ventersdorp until i watched 3rd Degree yesternight. but i want to thank you Debora we really appreciate that thank you

Ms. Jay
11 Feb 2009 11:46

Thanks Dimags, eish that is TERRIBLE, I guess you will always have the "die hards" - they will not change their mindset easily - that is so 1980's....

Cande
11 Feb 2009 11:57

there is one practise in Jan Kemp, between Hartswater & Kimberly that my grand mother goes to. They have the same setup but i didnt think it will be racism, they also say patients with appointments use the front door and without appointments they use the back door. The receptionist @ the front door is white and the one @ the back door is black/coloured. and patients where black @ the back door, and white in the front door.OMW i must send HPSA the doctor's name and his premises.

Ms. Jay
11 Feb 2009 12:01

They have the same setup but i didnt think it will be racism Cande from your text after this statement - i think it is. Do they allow black people to make appointments? This is a hidden form of racism and it must be plucked; please send their details to HPSA if you cant tell me then I will send them for u...mxiiii

55555
11 Feb 2009 12:43

i dont see why this has to be seen as racist. If the whites pay more for the servise, then why are they not allowed to have more comfortable seating? The blacks pay less for a servise, and i mean if they want to pay R220 instead of R130 then they to would have had more comfortable seating, or would have been in the same waitintg room as the whites. CANDE - i am with you. I dont see this as rasist either. And if DR Labuschagne actually join the waiting rroms for black and whites, then i think that they should increase the fees for the blacks aswell. Cause it would be rasist against the whites to make them PAY MORE for the same services but do not get any benefits for the EXTRA amount they pay???? Think about it people. Racisism works both ways. And black get way more benefits than our white. Even sport is about choosing the CORRECT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT IS BLACK and not the PEOPLE TALENTED ENOUGH for the team.

KeleFabulous
11 Feb 2009 12:51

5555 what race are you?

Dimago
11 Feb 2009 12:51

55555 they used the money issue as a decoy. Who wants to pay R90 more for comfortable seating puhleeese....the fact that these dr's treat blacks when all the whites have been treated, tells you they are racist. No matter how early you arrive or what pain you are in, as long as the white waiting room has patients, the black patients will wait...please man, this is racism 101

Cande
11 Feb 2009 12:55

No in that practise they dont treat the black patients after hours, they treat them as they come depending on the queue

calamity
11 Feb 2009 13:04

@55555, did you watch the episode or are you just going by what people on this blog say, didn't you see when the black Third degree people went there, they were told to come back later, even when they had medical aid, the third degree staff even called stating that they had medical aid they were still told to come later, but when the white third degree staff member phoned they were told to come even though they didn't have medical aid.surely not all white people in NW can afford to pay the R220 and they don't all have medical aid but they still got treatment before black people.

u4me
11 Feb 2009 13:21

555555555, are you seeking attention or what, please give us a break, you dont know what you are talking about, just shut up. Everyone sensnsible person who watched the show could see that was racism of the highest order. I wont be surprised if you are racist or has been brainwashed. Just wake up and smell coffee, nxnxnxnx

sjura
11 Feb 2009 13:27

Racisism works both ways. And black get way more benefits than our white........ur ansa lies in that line guys if u want to know uba 555555 uyini...

55555
11 Feb 2009 13:31

how about this. Having a kid of 2years old with cancer. your funds are exhausted after having to pay for lumberpunches, chemo, etc. Where it states that a child under six years will get free medical. ONLY if the child is BLACk. How is that fair???

55555
11 Feb 2009 13:34

Sjura... do you actually believe that black get more benefits than the whites?

TheLady
11 Feb 2009 13:35

where's that 5 fives? Report them

55555
11 Feb 2009 13:39

Dimago... you obviosly do not run a business nor do you have any business sense. that R90 is profit . In long term yes some of that profit will go into decorating the waitingroom. Surely you expect quality when you pay that amount.

calamity
11 Feb 2009 13:43

Agree with TheLady, if something like what 55555 is describing then it must be reported. 
@ 55555, With regards to Sjura, he/she is quoting you to tell us your race, read your own post 55555, the bold line is actually a quote from you,

Dimago
11 Feb 2009 13:44

i'm not gonna debate this with you five . i know where you are coming from and i will not waste my breath on you.

Zet
11 Feb 2009 13:46

Ja the whole thing was racist.but atleast the black people were getting something out of it-R90 less to pay compared to the whites. 

it's unfair and wrong but shame as the one lady said, they dont really have a choice. and thina's blacks are so used to being treated terribly that we dont even see the "wrongs" done by whites anymore. thank God for television and journalists cause something can now be done to make the lives of those poor people better,even though they didnt realize in the first place that there was something wrong with how they were being treated.

Cody
11 Feb 2009 13:50

55555, i've never heard of such, mind you, im white

55555
11 Feb 2009 13:57

http://dienuwesuidafrika.blogspot.com/2008/03/probe-racism-against-whites-afriforum.html
i would recommend all of you read this.

u4me
11 Feb 2009 13:58

i wish i can help you 5X5, you seem to be confused, furstrated, angry and lost at the same time. If you say that was not racism, then i dont know what racism is, maybe you can enlighten me.

TheLady
11 Feb 2009 13:59

"but atleast the black people were getting something out of it-R90 less to pay compared to the whites."
The blacks who have medical aid or are willing to pay the extra R90 still sit and wait for the doc to finish with whites...It's not about saving money, it's about people's healths.

BigMama
11 Feb 2009 14:04

Black people are racist as well and they discriminate against each other.
So if they can kill another human being because his from Nigeria, why can´t a White man let them use the back door.

l am black and not proud of racist but just give the white man a break as sometimes we are the ones promoting the hate. We don´t love each other, we are very good at pointing fingures.

If we were not bad, Lucky Dube would be still alive, we would never have experinced the Xenophia, so stop pretending to be saints an let the white man live like you want to live.

Cande
11 Feb 2009 14:05

ohk guys please stop this black & whites debates

55555
11 Feb 2009 14:05

id o think that what these doctors were somewhat racist. BUT, why is all RACISM against black seen in the media and made a scene of. No i do not agree with it, but for f*ck sakes our whites does not have it easy either. yes i am white. we are also affected by racism. as black may break into our homes, rape or kill our wifes and children, but we act against it - like shoot the guy because of selfdefence abouve all thing THE WHITE SHOOTER is seen as a racist and sent to jail beacuse he saw his wife or children raped and killed infront of him and reacted on it.

Zet
11 Feb 2009 14:05

TheLady- i dont dispute that "it's not about saving money, but about people's healths".most of those people unfortunately dont have medical aid anyway.not condoning the doctors' actions,but atleast the blacks aren't the one's paying more (cash). they are (paying more) by being attended to late and being seated in uncomfortable chairs, yes, but for people who have nothing and very little choices, the extra R90 is a lot. 

all im saying is that it could've been worse.atleast they're getting medical care. but after the expose last night, something will definately change im sure.  

55555
11 Feb 2009 14:07

BIG MAMA - I have alot of respect for you!!!!!!

Segololo
11 Feb 2009 14:10

I missed the show.

But my biggest concern is are the black patients getting  geniune medicine or are they getting panado for each and every ailment!!? What medicine are they being given?

Even If the person is willing more - for good service and health, not chairs PUHLEASE - will they be served in the white only rooms?

Cande
11 Feb 2009 14:11

thanx Bigmama

u4me
11 Feb 2009 14:12

I recommend that you get some holy water, you have a troubled soul ,5x5

Cody
11 Feb 2009 14:12

55555 said:  as black may break into our homes, rape or kill our wifes and children,

this is a sensitive topic, that should have been only about those consulting rooms. but jeez no matter what race you are, no one is allowed to discriminate. and fiveple 5, i am sure that is not true, what you just said in the sentence above, i am quite sure that other races are capable of theft,rape, murder. so please!

BigMama
11 Feb 2009 14:13

55555........The truth has to be told. l don´t care about what my black brothers and sisters will think of me, but l have experienced much hate from black people compared to Whites. They are greedy, jealous and they will kill you for what you have worked hard for. They are lazy, they want everything from the government, they love to be spoon fed and to good in destroying instead of building.

Dimago
11 Feb 2009 14:19

hmmmm...BigM since you are one of us, why dont you say  We are greedy, jealous and we will kill you for what you have worked hard for. We are lazy, we want everything from the government, We love to be spoon fed and to good in destroying instead of building.

55555
11 Feb 2009 14:19

I wish more people had your attitude BIG MAMA. You could truly cahnge the world for the better. RESPECT!

CODY - tell me, would you walk through a township at night alone? Why or why not? Would you walk through a white residential area alone at night? Why or why not? Would you walk though a Indian residential area at anight alone? Why or why not?

ting
11 Feb 2009 14:19

maare I do not get this? - if they do not have money why arent the queing at govt hospitals and clinics like all the other people who dont have money do?
surely that white dr is not the only dr in the whole of schweizer reneke or ventersdorp. batho ba bantsho le bona ba tena man...why do they have to subject themselves to dilo tse so? i mean really now

TheLady
11 Feb 2009 14:21

Yho BigMama-you don't have black friends? why ugeneraliser manje? we are just talking about 2 racist doctors qha!

TheLady
11 Feb 2009 14:23

hayi Mamkhulu mus'ukudlala ngathi-ama China ayasihleka bant'abamnyama.

Dimago
11 Feb 2009 14:23

surely that white dr is not the only dr in the whole of schweizer reneke or ventersdorp
@ting they did ask that question and apparently there are not a lot of dr's in those areas. I don't think these people would subject themselves to such treatment kabomo...

BigMama
11 Feb 2009 14:24

@Dimago............Thank you for the correction and note that if your friends/ family are doing bad things and you are the angel amongst them, no one will notice, you are also taken as a bad guy.
So with that l am not excluding myself. English is not my mother language, l write it to accommodate everyone, so you must expect mistakes like that.

cleve
11 Feb 2009 14:27

The truth has to be told. l don´t care about what my black brothers and sisters will think of me, but l have experienced much hate from black people compared to Whites. They are greedy, jealous and they will kill you for what you have worked hard for. They are lazy, they want everything from the government, they love to be spoon fed and to good in destroying instead of building.

@ BigMama,
Stop generalising and maybe you have been around more black people than whites. Have you ever thought about that?

BigMama
11 Feb 2009 14:29

@TheLady............They have to because we don´t have love, we can´t even accommodate our own brothers, who we can see they are suffering, they are hungry, they have no shelter. And we say we have UBUNTU, do call dosing a man with petrol and setting him a light ubuntu ? So let the doctors practise what they are doing at least they are not kiling anyone even if they are giving them panados.........

BigMama
11 Feb 2009 14:31

@cleve........l started staying with black people 4years ago.

Segololo
11 Feb 2009 14:31

lol @ ting...

Cande
11 Feb 2009 14:32

Bigmama are you trying to take NtandoN's seat? LOL!!!

Zet
11 Feb 2009 14:32

BigMama-maybe you should move out of wherever you're staying if these are the only kind of black people you're exposed to. 

Im black and surrounded by mostly black people and I haven't noticed anything like what you say. its all in your mind probably because of whatever was done to you by a single black person in the past.You really sound like you've been brainwashed by people who've made it their life missions to make black people look bad.

If you're expecting someone to treat you bad then no matter what they do,in your mind that's how you'll always see them. 

BigMama
11 Feb 2009 14:34

@Cande.......shame l adored NtandoN, l wish he could PM me sometime.
But l am going now, enjoy blogging people.

BigMama
11 Feb 2009 14:35

@Zet.....thanx

cleve
11 Feb 2009 14:37

BigMama-maybe you should move out of wherever you're staying if these are the only kind of black people you're exposed to.

Thank you Zet, for the little 4 yours of your life of BIGMAMA's thats what she has concluded about black people. My friends and family are black; and even most of the people that we blog with here; but I have not experienced those type of people yet. 

So BIG MAMA you are really hanging around the wrong crowd.

cleve
11 Feb 2009 14:41

Correction: Thank you Zet, for the little 4 years of BIGMAMA's experience with black peeps thats what she has concluded about us. My friends and family are black; and even most of the people that we blog with here; but I have not experienced those type of people yet. 

Cody
11 Feb 2009 14:41

tell me, would you walk through a township at night alone? Why or why not? Would you walk through a white residential area alone at night? Why or why not? Would you walk though a Indian residential area at anight alone? Why or why not?

As far as I know, there are no more white residential areas (ofcourse i stand to be corrected), my aunt is a social worker, she works in soweto, and alexandra townships and can you believe there are some white people living there as well,everything that happens to black people happens to them as well, they live in shacks, although you will not find a vast majority of whites like you will in the previous white residential areas. so the my dear ive got only 1 answer to all your questions, it is not safe to walk ANYWHERE at night, whether it's in town or the location, there is no safety gauranteed. in anycase, what would you be doing walking at night alone?

Beyonce
11 Feb 2009 14:44

This is not acceptable I agree9Strongly)

But kodwa omdat, black people do this to themselves, they leave Black Dr's practises and go to White ones, they will even spend more money on transport just to be seen by 'baas Dr' who does not even touch them. 
Most black patients(esp uneducated ones) dont believe a black dr can treat them, its even worse if that black Dr is Female.... shame ask me, I've seen it all. 

Do yu honestly want to tell me that there are not Black Dr's in that Vantersdop area? Why are these patients not going there? Lemme answer for you coz- they want 'baas dr' to treat them, for heaven's sake baas cant even hear(language prob) what they r saying and probably doesn't even care.

Fellow bloggers: How many of you here have Black Dr's- be it gp', dentist, Gynae, etc?

55555
11 Feb 2009 14:46

The reason i asked these question is because you said : i am quite sure that other races are capable of theft,rape, murder. so please!
So tell me this cody. Why will you not walk alone? Why will you not let your children walk alone... WHAT or WHO are you afraid of? Crime? who commits these crimes?

Cande
11 Feb 2009 14:50

LOL Bee and i can tell you uguthi in the rural areas where my grandmother stays there is a female back doctor who was married to our relative, so we sort of related. but kodwa haiye cha she chooses to be driven 50km more to see a white "bass Dr".

Segololo
11 Feb 2009 14:53

<<Fellow bloggers: How many of you here have Black Dr's- be it gp', dentist, Gynae, etc?>> I do... you know who it is, mos! lol!

Let me advertise for my doctors... yesses

Dr Motlhanthe - 011 410 3883... in Kagiso! He has been my doctor since I was 7.
Dr Makwakwa - 011410 7557 My Dentist (female/black)
Dr Mosome - 011 410 3883 My psychologist (female/black)

Those are my Doctors!!! OKAY!!!

Beyonce
11 Feb 2009 14:56

You see Cande:)

Mina when I was doing internship at this particular hospital in KZN, I would see a patient grand grand at the end when you give them the card to go and collect medication they will say- "Kanti ngimbona nini u Dokotela, Sister?" Mind you I had already introduced myself as Dr Knowles-Carter, but ke they just didnt think a bootyful black chick like me can be  what 'baas Dr' is...

Cody
11 Feb 2009 14:57

I am aware of those questions hence i said it is not safe to walk anywhere alone.  if i had children black or white i would not want them to walk alone, they are "children" for crying out loud, anything can happen anywhere no matter what race . there are some white people using taxis, they do walk alone to those taxi ranks. so please. i dont have to answer those other questions as the answer i gave you erases all those questions you've asked sweety.

TheLady
11 Feb 2009 14:59

Bee-my GP is female and black...I love the woman-she listens. She recommended a gynae who happened to be black-problem brothaman doesn't take medical and I needed him to perfom a prosedure he told me he wanted his R3000 upfront on top of the R500 i paid for consultation!

I have always had black GPs...something are just so much better if I explain in Zulu.

Cande
11 Feb 2009 15:00

LOL @ Dr Bee Knowles-Carter. Eish ja neh

Beyonce
11 Feb 2009 15:00

I know the Makwakwa chick Segs! Ditto to you Segs, 

To those that go to white ones, dont blame these Ventersdporp patients, they have the same mentality as you or vice versa.

Segololo
11 Feb 2009 15:01

Dr Knowles-Carter!!! Thata! LOL...

Ms. Jay
11 Feb 2009 15:01

The truth has to be told. l don´t care about what my black brothers and sisters will think of me, but l have experienced much hate from black people compared to Whites. They are greedy, jealous and they will kill you for what you have worked hard for. They are lazy, they want everything from the government, they love to be spoon fed and to good in destroying instead of building.

Guys which race does not think bad of their own? White on white will tell you how crooked and ungrateful they, colored will say the same and now black people...truth is that we all have to stop this RACE CARD and look at people for who they are PERIOD!!!! and not what COLOR they are...ONLY THEN WILL YOU HAVE FREEDOM WITHIN

When we die how come we dont cry foul if we are buried next to a white person who may have been racist? ITS because a dead body cant feel or think - it cares for nothing about race anymore - the spirit of that person is most probably in heaven or hell where it belongs...thats whats important in life....God does not say - one line for blacks, one for whites and one for indians - HE does not look at your race!!

these doctors were racist FULL STOP, read Calamity's comment.....

R90 changes nothing but the walls of the surgery and better chairs....it adds nothing to the quality of your life - that my friends is determined by YOU - black, white, colored, indian; greek or chinese......and if YOU have a racist or xenophobic outlook and make jokes or pass stupid comments about someone else's OR EVEN your own race then YOU will always be a miserable ol' fool.

Times are changing if you going to stay in the 1980's then good for you but move on with this racism thing...stop giving it more time than its due and start with yourself by looking at a person for who they are and not what color they are. Stop judging based on race - it fails!!!! If you do that then someone else will see your actions and very soon you could have changed the face of your community......please......too many wars have been fought and are being fought all in the name of RACE....if people only realised that we all came from one race for more info read Gen 11! Believer or not - it will help you understand

preyonce
12 Feb 2009 12:50

Ok, the reasons why the majority of black people in this country are not ready to be governed by whites:

1) Whenever blacks start moving into white neighbourhoods, the whites move out?

2) whenever a multiracial school starts having mostly black people applying, the white parents take their white children out. the principal of Potchefstroom high school for Girls went as far as saying this school is going to black and actually calling white pupils to ask them who they know that is white and in grade 7 coz no whites are applying there anymore.( 2 of the white girls told a friend of mine)

3) this private practise case, what a coincidence that ventersdorp is just outside potchefstroom

Some white people in this country still isolate themselves from blacks, we still have white, coloured, indian and black neighbourhoods for example in Potchefstroom: promosa is for coloureds, mohadin for indians, central town for whites and ikageng for blacks. theres a surbub in Pretoria called Weavely it is just whites living there and the only blacks you see are the gardeners and housekeepers. when myself and 3 other friends of mine walked down one of  the streets of weavely, people there were stairing at us like we were from another planet and it seemed as though they were wondering whos black kids we were or which black person just moved in the neighbourhood.
i have alot to say but dont know how to summarise it.

WHY THE ISOLATION?? 

I JUST WANT 3RD DEGREE TO INVESTIGATE THE ISOLATION BY WHITE PEOPLE FROM BLACKS AND WHY MOST BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT READY AND WILLING TO BE GOVERNED BY A WHITE GOVERNMENT, you'll find some interesting responses. i suggest you investigate in areas where racism is still being practised: potchefstroom, pretoria, bloemfontein just to name the popular

preyonce
12 Feb 2009 13:12

i am a19 year old black south african and didnt experience apartheid but my parents, friends parents etc experienced this and are too hurt and destroyed emotionally for them to just except white people, i say this because i have heard comments such as 'oseka  watsamaya o trusta leboru' meaning DONT EVER TRUST A WHITE PERSON and they bealive the white people also preach to their children telling them that blacks are dogs and should be treated as such. if you actually go in the work place and investigate the relationship between white s and blacks, or the different races you might not be amazed at the outcome.

South Africans are not 100% united or the perfect rainbow nation that it would like to be perceived as, why would Africa unite if there is no intergartion within the different country's?(dont know if im making sense but ja) lets hear your replies

preyonce
12 Feb 2009 13:12

i am a19 year old black south african and didnt experience apartheid but my parents, friends parents etc experienced this and are too hurt and destroyed emotionally for them to just except white people, i say this because i have heard comments such as 'oseka  watsamaya o trusta leboru' meaning DONT EVER TRUST A WHITE PERSON and they bealive the white people also preach to their children telling them that blacks are dogs and should be treated as such. if you actually go in the work place and investigate the relationship between white s and blacks, or the different races you might not be amazed at the outcome.

South Africans are not 100% united or the perfect rainbow nation that it would like to be perceived as, why would Africa unite if there is no intergartion within the different country's?(dont know if im making sense but ja) lets hear your replies

shareesa
12 Feb 2009 18:41

i would like to reply to Tuesday eve'"s broadcast about racism. well we are 15 years in a country of democracy and still find educated & professionals to act in a manner which have no respect for other people, but rather discriminate  and undermine the humanity of other racial groups.  iam so glad that this broadcast was on tv, but still in the western cape and escpially in the small towns like Worcester, Robertson, Ashton you will still find 2 doors. a patient was even attacked by a doctor last year when he asked why he must sit in a separate room
then the whites.  Somehow goverment has to bring strict laws against racism. People get to easy away with this crime. Thanks debbie for bringing this issue to the people of south africa.

kosie99
13 Feb 2009 05:26

Hello people, all of you must wake up, and smell the poison in your coffee...... The political situation in South Africa is not about race or colour anymore!!! Ask yourself this.... Why is crime so high in our country? Why is there so many people with out jobs? Why do we have such a high HIV infection rate? On a television program a couple of days ago, they stated that there are 7 million Zimbabwians in South Africa. That's right, 7 MILLION!!!! That is 7 Million job opportunities that our husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, and our children could have occupied. Our people are starving, they have no money for food, no place to stay..... They are dying in squatter camps without proper sanitation, dying of HIV, and HIV related illnesses. People are stealing, murdering, and raping in the fight for survival in our country. Corrupt government officials are taking away the roof over our childrens heads, and us, the people of south africa are suffering the concequences. People like Debra are looking in the wrong place for somebody to blame, stop blaming apartheid and racism for what is wrong in our country, and start looking for a solution. Let;s take hands as a rainbow nation, and make our country the strong country it was before we fell apart as a nation..... We can do it!

realist
13 Feb 2009 06:51

To a certain extend I agree with Bigmama and 55555. When are we blacks going to do anything with integrity and honesty and without looking at what other races do?

It seems to me we haven’t yet accepted that our standards are too low when it comes to doing anything that is related to service. Go to any government department that has to do with service and see what level of service you get. 

Floh
13 Feb 2009 07:27

I want to thank 3rd degree for changing their time slot, I can now watch without a remote in my hand. LoL!

5 hundred 55 thousands  5 minutes ( 555555555), I think they should give the Blacks a choice, they need to choose if they wanted to be treated in a first class or economy class bathong, surely some of them want the COMFORT of those chairs.

cleve
13 Feb 2009 09:37

To show that racism is still rife in SA, I have experinced it form a 7 year old Afrikaner Boy.

Imagine a 7 year old comes to play in my house a darkies house. Clearly  he doesn't see the difference or if there is anything wrong with him being friends with a black kid. My hubby was playing a soccer game on playstation. The child came and said to my husband that he will not watch soccer because it is a sport played by black people, he will only watch rugby because it's a sport for white people. But he was suprised to see that on playstation the players are mostly white. 

But it just goes to show that the poor child was taught this cRap by his parents. How do parents teach their child not to like other people. I teach my child to love everyone, rich, poor, skinny fat, black, white etc.

I'm just saying that the sooner we accept that there is racism in our country the better and stop playing rainbow nation games. Obvioulsy not all whites are like that but there are many that still live in the 80's. Maybe we can deal with the issue better if we accept the truth.

myname
13 Feb 2009 09:52

Guys racism will NEVER end. We have to understand that. We can preach until our mouth becomes dry

Ms. Jay
13 Feb 2009 09:54

Why is crime so high in our country? Why is there so many people with out jobs? Why do we have such a high HIV infection rate? On a television program a couple of days ago, they stated that there are 7 million Zimbabwians in South Africa. That's right, 7 MILLION!!!! That is 7 Million job opportunities that our husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, and our children could have occupied.

Kosie99 - how does Zimbabwe come into this? Stop blaming others and look in your mirror and then you will see that you are the problem. How many SAfricans are in the UK, USA & Europe at the moment? Do you hear them complaining and stoning SA citizens to death or burning them?

Have you forgotten or are you too young to understand the role Zimbabwe played in aparthied? How many SAfricans went to other countries when SA was in time of need? Please....these people need our help NOW, or is it just take take take - and blame blame blame

You sound Xenophobic - exactly what Debra and the likes are trying to expose. We dont need such comments on TVSA.

Cleve I agree with you we need to accept the truth and deal with it. Racism + Xenophobia are just another form of low self esteem....

Ms. Jay
13 Feb 2009 09:57

myname - it will end -

The end of times are close by - we just need Jesus Christ in our lives.

Ms. Jay
13 Feb 2009 09:58

Ditto Floh - we need to give each other freedom of choice for sure

myname
13 Feb 2009 10:02

@ Jael Trust me dear!  some people its inside their blood

Ms. Jay
13 Feb 2009 10:09

thats why we need Jesus to flow thru them:) *smiles*....but seriously this low self esteem that manifests itself as racism is here to stay as long as we dont get the TRUTH.

I really wish there was a re-run of this episode,

care2love
29 Sep 2009 14:32

i think its high tym dat people start actin on more important thngs than d colour of skin...unemployment,aids n stuff..racism is so 1960.racism=backwardness..


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