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Battle Of The Sexes

Written by KeleFabulous from the blog Cherry Baby on 30 Aug 2007
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I'm sure we've all heard of the age before Feminism and Women Liberation (Girl Power). When exactly did this age begin? Anyhoo I have some questions about this era. 

We know the before and after. Before women had very little rights (if any) and were not treated as equals. What about now? Has there really been a change? Do we have the same rights as men? And if so are those rights exercised, acknowledged and appreciated? Are we reall equal in the true sense of the word? Mind u this is not another woman whining about what must or should be. I'm just wanting to know if anything's changed really...?

I was watching Mubango the other night and Humbulani was as usual playing her 2 men. humbulaniI always thought the woman was confused and shud get her damned act straight! and choose which one she really wants! But then as she and that lady were talking (forgot her name...the one who likes to say "boss lady") Humbulani said something very interesting which I kicked myself for not having thought of. She said she loved them both as they both satisfy different needs and desires. The Dr was considerate, gentle and king and generous (who doesn't want a man like that?!) And the lawyer made her laugh and feel special and appreciated as a woman. So why can't she just have both of them?! Men can, why can't women? Isn't this where equality of the sexes comes in? I thot to myself...mhhmmm...interesting. But then my Freud cap had to come on(sometimes I overanalyse things!): Both these men are actually 2 male figures that I believe every female needs. One the father (the Dr who takes care) and the other a lover (the lawyer who is more of a soulmate). Ps. does Humbulani have a father? don't remember hearing about him...

Someone, who I consider one of the few good men around (sorry ladies, he's happily married with 2 kids!) once said to me "99% of men will cheat, even if they are happily married". This is so saaaaddd!!! And I c it all the time 2. Have even experienced it myself. He also said it's not about the woman the man is in love with. The woman might mean the world to the same guy but men will cheat because they are men. And, if he really loves you, he will make sure u neva find out! Now the guys must explain this to me...how do u cheat knowing u might lose your "life" (woman)?! Then I remember Humbulani. Then i remember I've also been in love and no matter how extra hot the other guy looked I neva once considered going there...haai!

Please don't get me confused as I'll be flipping both sides of the coin here as I'm trying to grasp this whole relationships thing!

Then comes Ntombi(Gen). The self proclaimed feminist who doesn't need a man to cater for her (financial) needs. But she does need Sbuda! (those who know more about feminists do tell me....do they also feel they don't need a man for companionship?) The other day she got into an argument with Sbuda's uncle. The woman was shouting at him! Ok fine so he may have made some not so nice comments about her and the type of "makoti" she is or shud be. In Setswana they say mosadi wa ikokobetsa.But kanti nna I thot u had to just bite ur tongue and be as polite as possible to the in laws, no matter what they say to you? Ok maybe not no matter what but u have to try as much as possible not to get emotional and be the bigger person akere? Aren't we taught gore this is the only way (if ever!) u'll gain their like? Ok that's my belief and I'm sticking to it! Confusing i know but i also believe a person needs to earn ur respect. And u bab'mkhulu certainly wasn't bidding for any points there!

Men and women in gay relationships. We have Nhlanhla(Scandal). Everyone knows he's gay and they all love and accept him. Then we have the seemingly strange relationship between Shakira and..can't remember her name...oh yes! Kayleigh...Now ever since it became apparent these 2 might have something going on people started yapping! Nhlanhla was in a relationship with Joac(?) awhile back and no one really cared! But 2 women! Ok...so JJ is the only one who sees in in a different (perv!) light from everyone else but the rest of them...kanti what's going on here???

Then we have Queen (Generations). She quit her job as the head of the Pep campaign for the sake of her relationship to Steve/ A campaign she busted her ass off for! And then she goes and gives it up! Why couldn't Steve do that? Y did it have to be Queen? The Gen scriptwriters didn't even bother to explore other alternatives! Clearly soemething's wrong here.

Now let's leave the soapie land and look at the real world. A woman very close to me is a very successful someone. Has a wonderful career which she absolutely loves (plus it brings in good moola!) She has a beautiful house and drives the latest BMW. She is also someone i think has the most beautiful heart, out of all the people i know! She's now 31 and is at a stage where she wants to marry and have kids. She believes any man who'll father her children must be there with her ie. married. She doesn't want to be the only one waking up at night! She is also is the type of person who will do whatever it takes to make sure that she doesn't (even seemingly) make a decision that'll affect both parties without first consulting and having agreed with the other party. I'm talking things like having a baby. She's been brooding now for at least 3 yrs and will not go there as the other party wasn't "ready". Equality? Yes...and no...i felt gore she trully deserved to have this child and y shud it be up to the guy that they won't be?(yena he had 3 diff babies by 3 women and felt the next one he shud be married) ok. i felt him on that one. but i also felt he was being selfish and inconsiderate. Here was a woman whom he claimed to love but couldn't bring himself to make her happy...nx!

So are we really equal in the true sense of the word? Were we meant to be equals? I believe in women liberation and all of that but at the same time i do too believe men and women have different roles in life(but it's up to the 2 of them to work that out). I believe in the alpha male who shud provide and cater for his woman and family. I believe it is the woman's duty to take care of the household (don't really care how u do it and no one shud tell u how it shud be done 2...eg. u can hire a maid). Please remember these are  my personal beliefs and would never impose them on someone else! I believe that a mutual understanding and appreciation goes a long way in making the relationship a success. Do men still have more power than we and do they still get away with alot? Are we really judged in the same light? Is there really a Battle of the Sexes? To me a battle is between two equal people and do we really have this battle seeing as we're not so equal? Should we just accept men and women are different and should complement one another? Is this good enough?




63 Comments

Jordan
30 Aug 2007 05:14

I am just gon reflect on this... will comment just now!!!!

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 05:27

good Jordan. go and reflect. meantime i'll be doing my detective work!

Toodecent
30 Aug 2007 05:34

U should write a book.... my gal.

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 05:40

TDC i know it's a long one but u don't have to phoxa me!

Suzilicious
30 Aug 2007 05:50

no i will let this one pass me, cant you make a it a little bit shorter?

Cya
30 Aug 2007 05:51

Guys plese welcome me, I have just joined you group of crazy peeps. As for the tpopic, I also believe in the Alpha man and that men and women are different and have different roles to fulfill. I don't think women will ever be equal to men!

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 06:00

Cya welcome babes!

Suzi...unfortunately doll i like it the way it is. maybe u shud pass...

Toodecent
30 Aug 2007 06:00

Welcome to TVSA ..Cya and this is your Moderator! Kele I didnt meanit that way bathong, I thought I have changed aowa havent anyone realised mara? I said so cause you always write so much sense that I think should be in a booklet or something .

Jordan
30 Aug 2007 06:01

<<<women had very little rights (if any) and were not treated as equals. What about now?>>>
I think things are different now from how they were then. The feminist groups have done a lot to make everybody aware of gender based discrimination. I think what is important is that everybody be empowered (education, exposure to different things etc), so that they can have freedom of choice and can make informed decisions.

Either than that I think some women sacrifice so much of themselves to try and prove a point. They will strive for the top positions while pining for time not spent with their children. Yes... fine... I know every situation is unique blah blah blah and women want to do their own thing wara wara... but I think the old set up was cool when women would cook, clean take care of the kids while the men bring home the moola. We had a good thing going.... Obviously the set up is not 100%, but more often than not, it’s on point!

It’s unfortunate as well that the men have also turned into dogs, playing mind games... being abusive and stuff. Women don’t feel secure enough to just stay at home, scared that the bastards will screw them. So men it’s your fault!!! Please behave and take care of your women....

Oh and sorry ladies, women and men are not the same. There are players and sluts! Sorry it’s not me, it’s life...

Floh
30 Aug 2007 06:02

Welcome Cya!!!!

@ Kele, be back later

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 06:07

<<Oh and sorry ladies, women and men are not the same. There are players and sluts!>>

haai Jordy bathong! just when i thot u were gonna pull a straight face thruout ur reply...hi hi hi...and which category do u fall under?

Kelebogile TDC. hi hi hi.

Username
30 Aug 2007 06:08

Men and women are not equal and will never be equal in every sense of the word. Women were created to be nurturers’, life bearers and more inclined to be in touch with their emotional softer side.
Men have the macho, protector and provider. Men could call themselves the hunter. We then have centuries of stereotypes and myths based on men and women in society that we cannot and will not change that in foreseeable future.

Men and women were created to complement each other physically, spiritually, emotionally and intellectually. I believe the physical strength of a woman is not equal to that of a man. It’s like human beings and nature, the other cannot live without the other but they are not equal. It’s all good to have BEE and EE but as long as we know there are two sides to the coin and they both compliment each other.

Ntombi is a feminist just because she can spell the word

Stranger
30 Aug 2007 06:10

Has anyone ever told u Kele that u r a gifted writer - u can make big bucks with ur writing skills/talent dear. Pls consider freelance writing!!

Jordan
30 Aug 2007 06:15

I like your response Username!!!

I LOL @ <<<Ntombi is a feminist just because she can spell the word>>>

Women must just concentrate on praying for world peace instead of worrying about what men are doing!!! Men are enjoying themselves and we are busy whining about impossible things!!! NX!!!

belz
30 Aug 2007 06:22

<Ntombi is a feminist just because she can spell the word> LOL!!! yu are so right, that is if i understand the word correctly clearly the writers need to consult the dictionary. Kele i also beleive that as a women you have to kokobetsa yoself to yo inlaws, this does not mean wash socks for ubabomkhulu, just uzehlise nje. i thinkg women and men were created to be different creaturs, opportunity wise, i thnk women nowadays have so much opportunity than men, especiall black women.

Cya
30 Aug 2007 06:29

Men and women will always be different, yes but that does not mean women should be looked down on or abused. there is nothing that men can do that we cannot do but that doesn't mean we should always prove that point. We should just play our different roles and enjoy it!

Beyonce
30 Aug 2007 06:29

KFraud---Please E-mail me the summary  to mu gmail account. LoL

Will be baq

Zazacious
30 Aug 2007 06:39

Wow! firstly love the article,And i must say that even the hard core feminists need some1 to cuddle with after a hard day at the office.On the cheatin issue its seriously a shame coz I find it hard to believe that my future hubby(whoeva he is)How can I then put myself thru the pain of that happening.I always say to myself if ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(SEXIEST WOWAN,WEL

Lady.RO.
30 Aug 2007 06:40

Kele, u sad mosadi wa ikokobetsa akere? ja dat is very true, but until when?? Re tla fela being humble moes le bona they have to be humble. Respect me en lenna i'l respect you - whether i am umakoti or not.
En as 4 men, y is it dat they never satisfied??? They jus neva-GOSH!!!!!

pat
30 Aug 2007 06:42

still reading... will be back!!! nice article thou.

Beyonce
30 Aug 2007 06:46

Me too... Im still on paragraph 2... but will get there eventually he he he

Good one Kele, I agree with everythinng Lady RO is saying

Zazacious
30 Aug 2007 06:47

COTINUATION .IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?you know,its very scarry 2 even think about marriage but i dream of the perfevt husband()then i just think oh hel, d bustard is gon cheat on me, then i wake up from my dream.I rest my case i think i will just get a job,adopt and live happily eva afta(Eish if only that was possible neh)Lamadoda mara.And no I knw that there are like that 4% of men hu are tru to their woman and its the women hu play them,

Toodecent
30 Aug 2007 06:52

hi hi hi Beyonce LMAO

babyjoe
30 Aug 2007 07:17

THEY are greedy, self obsessed, full of ish and think the world revolves around them. If you cheat on me its over, i don't have to think about anything cos clearly you used your brains for the 2 of us and the conclusion was that i wasn't worth your time.

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 07:43

Thank u guys for taking the time to read my very long article and replying! LOL

@Username Ntombi is a feminist just because she can spell the word 
haai haai i give up!

@Stranger...is that a job offer? hi hi hi

Jordan bathong! world peace? i thot that's something only beauty contestants wished for???? u still haven't answered my question...???

@Belz and Bey and Lady R.O ...i understand gore maybe i wasn't as clear as i intended to be with this statement sa go i kokobetsa...as i said u have to earn respect. when u get married, as a woman, the inlaws being difficult is something too many women have to deal with. but because u r stuck with them and they are the people ur man loves then u have to be the bigger person and be the first to offer the hand of friendship, no matter how hard. i'm NOT saying if ur efforts are not met halfway (or any way) then u shud cont and let them walk all over u. hell no! there comes a time sometimes when u just have to accept gore they will neva ba go amogele....

Cya...agree with u!

@Zaza...still trying to stomach that myself...maybe i shud explore the other side...hi hi hi

@Babyjoe..they are not all like that thle! don't forget some women are like that too!


Jordan
30 Aug 2007 07:49

Babyjoe, players are groomed, not born. It's the women's fault that guys are like that cos re batla go shapana ka stena!!!!

Kele, I will give youthe answer at the hook-up!!! hi hi hi

Toodecent
30 Aug 2007 07:50

@babyjoe.... YOH..??  Baitse 99% am so glad they recognised me and didnt put me le bo Monchooza ko 99 dilo tsa di 99 nono no look at 999 songs are being banned hi hi hi hi

Toodecent
30 Aug 2007 07:52

Babyjoe, players are groomed, not born. It's the women's fault that guys are like that cos re batla go shapana ka stena!!!! >>>> Jordan this is a 97.95 % correct answer... it depends most of the time.

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 07:56

Jordan i must say, i'm concerned...do u have anything positive to say about women?

Jordan
30 Aug 2007 08:01

Don’t be concerned, Kele. I love women!!! Mara sometimes si no uk’baiza, then turn around and blame men!!!!

Tshd21
30 Aug 2007 08:02

Just logged in Kelefab and must say this is a book u have written! Just saw battle of the sexes and thought it's probably about females and males being equal? *read the whole article later, sori*hug*
But I do not think that we are equal at all. I am not saying that men should be on top of women (EXCUSE THE PUN) and all. eish, help with better English ke a lo kopa!
Will expalin later....

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 08:05

mhmmmm...so does that mean u r option no 2? (about my question that is)

Tshd21 go ahead ngwana and catch ur breath

nonkez
30 Aug 2007 08:10

I am not saying that men should be on top of women then wat r u sayin plz explain now cos mna i say. men r at their riteful place 2 b on top of women.

Username
30 Aug 2007 08:12

@KeleFab nice reading. Beauty doesn’t guarantee love. Dr Victor says “If you want to be happy for the rest of your life never make a pretty woman your wife”.

Why do you give up? Mmmmhhhh

Lerata
30 Aug 2007 08:16

Hai le deep thatha vandag!

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 08:17

haai nonkez u wrongo sana u wrongo! hi hi hi

@ Username i was merely humoured by your earlier reply.
what does beauty have to do with anything?

babyjoe
30 Aug 2007 08:19

mina i believe they are all the same. i like the point (if he loves you enough he will hide it and you'll never find out) I know for sure that there is no good man out there. If you have convinced yourself there is you are only fooling yourself. just say he act ok but not to say he is ok, some even say (my man don't cheat, he is a good man) in your dreams, when a man acts all lovey dovey he definitely have something to hide and if he act like he doesn't give a damn he cares but doesn't want you to get ahead of things.

Username
30 Aug 2007 08:21

Eric Benet cheating on Halle Berry and there someone mentioning if u Eric can cheat on Halle what chance do they stand

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:27

Kelefab, I'm not going to lie & say I've read the entire article cos I haven't, but I've scanned through most of it & girl I hope that ur beautiful writing skills aren't just being exercised at TVSA, coz this is good not only the way that ur article is well-balnced but also ur style of writing is excellent.  I believe in giving credit where it's due & I must say ubhala kamnandi ntombazane!!! 

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "not

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY WILL

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY WILL SMITH

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY WILL SMITH IS

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY WILL SMITH IS AN

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY WILL SMITH IS AN ERIC

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY WILL SMITH IS AN ERIC BENET"

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:32

"IF ERIC BENNET CUD CHEAT ON HALLE BERRY(sexiest woman,)who am i?"
@ Zazacious I'd like to respond this comment by reminding u that: "NOT EVERY WILL SMITH IS AN ERIC BENET" 

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 08:35

May I be excused for the 101 responses, I have no idea what I pressed plz 4give me & I'm not at fault its Bantu Education...

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 08:39

Nonny bathong! and how can u give credit when u didn't read the whole thing??? o tla i tlama ebe oi thsola ko pele...

Toodecent
30 Aug 2007 08:44

was about to discipline you....your apology is accepted.

myname
30 Aug 2007 08:55

Uqale ngawe TDC b4 uNonny

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 08:58

ok Nonny made a mistake and has apologised for it. can we pls get back to the topic at hand?

mabhebheza
30 Aug 2007 09:16

Kele Fab nice one Gal..! Yazi men are endless pits they just dont fill up abaneli..! u can be the J.lo and be Princees Diane in their lives yazi ube umfazi and respect them be fully active n equipped in the bedroom y ube yikho konke maan but still they go and cheat nogaal with someone below ur league  aboncoli ncoli! they 4get that 2can play the game n we gals r good @playing our game but bona they play it bundlabha careless

the best thing 4me is 2have men  as ministers in ur life ,
Finance
Transport
Health(Sex)

babyjoe
30 Aug 2007 09:20

or be single it saves you a lot of stress

KeleFabulous
30 Aug 2007 09:27

hahahaha mabhebheza!!!

eish mara bann ba...can't live with them, can't live without

Annonymous
30 Aug 2007 09:31

I've finally read it all carefully Kele, & my opinion still stays the same, it's a fantastic article.

belz
30 Aug 2007 09:41

mabhebheza, powerful response my darling, very powerful!!!! im glad there are women out there who know tht its not only men who can do this, women can also cheat and igame siyayazi, men on the other hand are amateurs when it ocmes to these things.

KeleFabulous
31 Aug 2007 01:29

i gree with Belz...very good bheza. i'm surprised bona banna ba ga ba i puelle!

Toxic
31 Aug 2007 03:57

Hey KFab....I hate posting this late cause most of what I would have said has been mentioned. Great article and it's true about you needing to consider writing as a profession!!

KeleFabulous
31 Aug 2007 04:54

ke kopa le mpheng mosebetsi ge! hi hi hi

lebtop
31 Aug 2007 05:01

hey Kelefab, i must say, u inspire me


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