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Floh
03 Oct 2007 02:54

Thanks Tiao with a recap I totally forgot to watch.
What did Brigette said or did, cause hearing her voice its so very a coconut to me.

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 03:01

Coconuts are Black people who speak in English most of the time. They are more comfortable in speaking English than any of the other languages. Can’t hate them for that! Maybe they do think and dream in English, we’ll never really know!!!

There are cool ones and there is Bridgette Masinga! I think she would be irritating in any language... she was born with it!

andi01
03 Oct 2007 03:08

Its a great priviledge for a person to speak and understand english fluently, coz afetr all its the most used language in the world. but i think peopel should also be proud of who they are, speak fluently their mother tounge, teach other people about their culture. Being good in english mustn mean u need to neglect ur mada tongue.

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 03:16

J- so if you speak English all the time ur a coconut? n if the environment "forces" u wat then,n wat if i speak English coz i cn-dat dusnt change who i am.

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 03:23

English is an accessory. Some people use it to Bling, not for communication purposes! I love Setswana, but don’t expect every Motswana to love the language as well. Language does say a bit about a person, but the message is often misinterpreted.

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 03:25

I do dream in English sometimes.
But maybe thats coz Im talking to John Legend...

KeleFabulous
03 Oct 2007 03:26

fist off let me say it's interesting, for lack of a better word, the line our "conversations" seem to be taking nowadays. i actually find if i stay away from tvsa for an extened period of time i don't actually go thru withdrawal symptoms like i used to. now back to the topic!

*scrolling back up to check the name of the author* hi hi hi so many nu people!!! Bi tiao, i'm confused...short and simple doesn't quite make it understandable. u seem to contradict yourself here:
Yes wat you do and how u do it SHOULDNT define you as a person

then u say:

blatantly say "I grew up speaking English i think in English"b*lls@it

which side of the fence are u kanti??? i myself do think in english sometimes. i even dream in english, so what??? i'm still black and proud of it. please don't judge by what little u know of a person.

that other girl DENISE there was nothin COCONUT bout that one if there is a word like that that DEFINE specific ppl. hmmm...i think i c which girl ur talking about here...maybe it's the fact that u didn't actually state what u c being labelled a coconut is but it seems to me here by this statement your giving some glory to that label and are saying that girl is not worthy of that label???

IT IS NEVER APPROPRIATE TO JUDGE ANYONE - but u turn around and say: on that note i bow out but uBRIDGETTE YENA after the stunt she pulled izolo COCONUT THRU N THRU

zandii!!
03 Oct 2007 03:37

@ X C hayi i think yu one of the funniest gals here cant stop laughin at what yu just said !!

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 03:42

<<<J- so if you speak English all the time ur a coconut? n if the environment "forces" u wat then,n wat if i speak English coz i cn-dat dusnt change who i am.>>>
If you are black and you don’t know and understand and are not interested in black culture, then you are a coconut.

monchooza
03 Oct 2007 03:43

speaking english does not make a person a coconut.....a coconut is somebody who hates what she/he isand wants to be the other....i am totally against this thing of saying people who speak english most/all the time are coconuts.............i have a freind okhuluma i english ebhedayo and he loves english so much that akanamahloni ngeslungu sakhe esibhedayo, i dont think he is a coconut

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 03:45

Coconuts are Black people who speak in English most of the time. They are more comfortable in speaking English than any of the other languages.

I take this part back!!!

Condom
03 Oct 2007 03:47

Bi tiao - I think you have a problem with Bridget here. U have'nt explained much about the Show Content but yet u are attacking the Poor girl. Please state Facts here and maybe we can agree.

Will be waiting...

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 03:53

True dat.

Shirmell
03 Oct 2007 03:53

It was a very interesting topic indeed, I never knew about this saying "being a coconut", only recently came across it and now its all over the place.

Seem its just a case of not knowing one's background which was evident by Noeleen's guests, people grow up in different environments with different backgrounds and to the outside world, if a black person speaks English with an accent, that makes him/her a "coconut", seems ridiculous to me, I do know that people can be pretentious, it even happens in our coloured community, where people put on an accent in front of certain other people to appear to be in a higher class or something like that, in front of their normal peers they would then revert back the their normal way of speaking, that for me is just being pretentious, being who you're not.

In the case of these so-called "coconuts", its just a mere case of not knowing anything about that person really. If a person speaks good English because of the environment he/she grew up in, how can they be labelled "coconuts"? Its probably just a case of jealousy.

I see many young black teens in our church which is a typical rainbow nation church and these kids speak beautiful English, are they now labelled coconuts?

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 03:58

Shirmell wrote: " I never knew about this saying "being a coconut", "

Are u for real? IVE known about it before I could talk!

andi01
03 Oct 2007 03:59

But then again nowadays u see 4 xhosa speaking girls in a taxi/ train they are communicating in english why?, Have u ever seen any group of english speakers (first language), communictaing in any of other languages. i think its good to communicate in english in a group whereby not everyone verstaans ur mada tongue, but having people from one tribe bekhumsha xa bethetha, thats being coconut, black on de outside and white on de outside. SA cans we need 2 be proud of who were are Amigos. The reasons our languages seem inferior its bcoz were are not exposing them enough ese.

myname
03 Oct 2007 04:00

Mna i think a coconut is some1 trying 2 b what she/he is not. Some they can pretend as if they dont know how 2 write their home languages. We have ppl guys like Psyho (Rap guy in Generation). He raised by a white woman bt he stil knows how 2 speak Xhosa bt abantu basekhaya bayaxhoma. Its not like u wil become white or a black American just be urself & b proud of who u r.

sigo
03 Oct 2007 04:02

if you know english, you know english. and just coz you pronounce "Soweto" as "Sowerto" doesnt mean your a coco. it just means you got an "english" accent coz you in an english environment.

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 04:02

Kele- Bridgette said "i grew up speaking English" hence it is in inveted commas.as for u "tjasi yendoda" CONDOM if ud watched the show u wud understand wat im talking about- i hv nothin against Brigdette i don knw her from a bar of blue soap BT n i stand to b CORRECTED not ATTACKED - in her conversation with Queen of Talk haha, granted her step father is white she says "she still eats MOGODU n goes to Soweto (in her diffence)so for yena ppl cnt cll her a coconut bcoz she dus those two things...she turns around and says as much as she goes to the LOCATION with her mother if she is bck at home (DBN) she chooses not to involve herself in some of the things ppl do THERE nw tell me wat is that suppose to mean

andi01
03 Oct 2007 04:03

black on de outside and white on de inside.perdon amigos

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 04:04

There are coloured "coconuts" as well.

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 04:06

Why would anyone be jealous of anyone who speaks good English? It’s just a language! It’s not the epitome of coolness.

I made a mistake with my first def. of a coconut, it’s just that the language aspect if it stands out.

belz
03 Oct 2007 04:08

CONDOM???? heheheheheheh

Username
03 Oct 2007 04:11

What I find hard to follow is when does being a Model C give you the right not to know your mother tongue, speak like you have a potatoe stuck in your throat, degrade your culture as taboo and become high and mighty.

Bridgette's background does some how shed light into why she is like that (having a bi-racial sister, mother married to a white dude or something) but the mogodu and kasi thing made me think she is a coconut.

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 04:13

Sigo - SOWETO is n will always be SOWETO,english accent or not THERE IS A MASTER OF PRONOUNCIATION n SOWERTO is so RONG, this is becuming very interesting 'ASIKHULUME - LETS TALK" MZANSI and the politacally correct ppl say "asijule ngengxoxo".this was not really bout Brigdette twas me merely wnting someone to define COCONUT-STOP IT Xhosa Chikita i knw u already thinking a FRUIT haha.

maddie
03 Oct 2007 04:13

I saw the show yesterday these are my comments:

the word coconut originated from ekasi, you know mos your parents send you to an English school in town and your neighbours nabo wants to send their kids because they don't want u to outshine them.

you then use a taxi/bus to go to that English school, ufunda nabalungu and every time u and ur friends get into a taxi you speak English but you're both Zulu/Sotho.
As to why you don't communicate in your own language cos you both can understand each other beats me. you speak so loud and everyone can hear and people get so irritated bcos u're both black but you're communicating in English.
People will start calling you names like coconuts, not that they're hating u or anything but u're acting so different all of sudden and it's irritating.

U Bridgette, hai i understand cos she grew up with white step father.

those kids were asked if they do practice i culture ya bo, and they all said " yah we do go to Soweto, and one of them said I go my grandma and she teaches me. as if going to soweto is practising i cluture ya kho

Mina I still blame ama Parents. some are proud of the fact that their kids cannot speak their own language, they even brag to their friends bcos of that.
I think that's a slavery mentality .

I love AFRIKAANERS,you'll never find another Afrikaaner speaking to the other nge Afrikaans.

MADENZA
03 Oct 2007 04:16

I dont have a problem with people who speak english but me i cant speak to someone whom i know his/her african mother tongue in it.
Belz o a rata Condom,hi hi hi.

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 04:16

I think I MAY be a coconut....

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 04:18

jokes.

mabhebheza
03 Oct 2007 04:19

Coconuts irritate me epsecially in a taxi going 2ekasi nabo abantwana bama model C.."Its like Sooooooo Coool U Know..!! " hawu sifelani bese kuzoba noba "Yo yo my man what up dog.?" eish bantu yekelani ukusebenzisa u George lapho kungadingeki !!

Condom
03 Oct 2007 04:20

Bi tiao - That's all I wanted...an explanation of what happened on the Show....can u be so kind to share and tell all about the show(I mean everyone who was on the show)?

as for u "tjasi yendoda" CONDOM - please be kind to explain what u mean....and WHILE u at it ....pls share how u pronounce ur name! @Bi tiao

monchooza
03 Oct 2007 04:21

one other thing i have recently discovered is that most people especially School kids who go to white schools can only speak the language when it comes to writting it.damn ama spelling wabo

andi01
03 Oct 2007 04:22

@Maddie I love AFRIKAANERS,you'll never find another Afrikaaner speaking to the other nge Afrikaans. its good when they speak afrikaans to one another and dont excpect everyone around them to, and if you dont understand you get names like "dom kop", or "cement kop".which is rude considering they cant even say "molo", in onse taal. (onse refering to xhosa, sotho, tswana, etc)

myname
03 Oct 2007 04:23

guys i have a freind & i always tease her & call her COCONUT & i dont mean it. She told mi that she can express herself nice & gud when she speaking /writing english. so u wanna call her REAL COCONUT. Heee bt there r ppl grew up in rural areas now umntu ubuya back home sebaleka nomsi lo kodwa she knows inyama ukuba iya-braaywa. She doensnt know whats uronta (the hut)

GodsGift2Human
03 Oct 2007 04:25

ek stem nie saam nie met jou Maddie.Afrikaaners praat nie ander taal waneer hulle praat tussen ander Afrikaaner.

sweetie my baby
03 Oct 2007 04:26

my issue is also with parents who don't feel the need to speak in their own languages to their kids, then are suprised when the kids grow up despising black languages. If you grow up in an environment where your culture and language are cherished, you'll do the same when you grow up...

i grew up outside SA, and lost my seTswana, coz my teachers told my parents that unless they stopped speaking it to me, I'd never learn English. so they did - and when i got back as a teenager, i could only speak English - hardly my fault, I'm sure you'll all agree.

but it took me FOREVER to start picking it up because of the judgemental attitudes i found all around me. instead of asking 'oh how come you only speak English?', i got all sorts of negative attitude that just put me off learning any black language. (by the way, this is a very Southern African phenomenon - i've lived in East Africa, West Africa - and there, people are pleased to help you learn, and encourage you instead of mocking...)

My experience shows me that people also need to check themselves in how they approach 'coconuts', coz you really don't know the next persons story, and instead of constructing judgemental scenarios, just understand that :

1. it's really actually none of your business why the next person speaks only English.
2, but if you MUST know, at least have the decency to approach the person with respect and honest curiosity instead of a bullsh!t attitude, and expect them to be all apologetic for something they can't help.

remember, nothing is ever quite as it seems...

andi01
03 Oct 2007 04:27

@ monchooza true dat my amigo, i have this amigo she is a year younger than me, in 2001 she was doing grade 10 and i was doing grade 11. She was sooo good in english, could explain herself clearly in Xhosa, what i found amazing was the fact that, she failed grade 11 4 times until she decided to quit. And when she quit she couldnt say i quit, she said to me hay peto "mna ngoku ndiyayixhoma itoweli" which was the longest sentence she ever said in her mada tongue.

Username
03 Oct 2007 04:27

Why would anyone be jealous of anyone who speaks good English? It’s just a language! It’s not the epitome of coolness.

But it is with the Youth of SA that they even look down on township school kids as having broken english. Speaking english these days is like an accessory and your accent is either silver, gold,platinum or FONGKONG. Like andi says you go to a shopping centre and find a black mother speaking english to her very black child because her child is in a model c school and she doesnt want to confuse her baby with her mother tongue.

Condom
03 Oct 2007 04:28

Belz: CONDOM???? heheheheheheh
It's time I reach out to the people.....people are dying out there! *wink*

MADENZA: She'd better and so should you.

I am here to stay ....maybe at least I could save a life or two on this site...AIDS is a Killer...enuf of Ma praching....back to the Topic.

Shirmell
03 Oct 2007 04:29

LOL at XC:

Yeah but remember I'm coloured and we never use the word coconut, at least not here in PE.

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 04:29

again i stand to b corrected- i c it with mostly younger ppl of colour compared to older-as Username mentioned u tend to think your ish dont stink- they go bck to ekasi after school and look DOWN on abo Sindi n Leratos coz they cnt khumsha like they do-hence many ppl with potatoes stuck in their throats

Annonymous
03 Oct 2007 04:31

"yekelani ukusebenzisa u George lapho kungadingeki" @ nazoke mabhebheza, batshele sisi!!!!

Unik
03 Oct 2007 04:33

@username -speak like you have a potatoe stuck in your throat

Annonymous
03 Oct 2007 04:38

Nna I'm so proud of my parents, they sent me to the "so called Model C" schools, then when I was fluent in English & approaching coconutism (sp), they sat me down & said:"Sakuyisa esikoleni ukuthi ufundisise kahle isingisi, hhayi ukuthi ube umlungu, ngakho ke, khuluma ulwimi lwakho & talk English mekufanele."

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 04:38

Because English is a universal language, its important for us to know how to speak it, unfortunately. Broken or not.

Parents: Teach your kids their vernac, but they need English also. My kid speaks Xhosa and English, his nanny's Tswana...we must expose/teach our kids as many languages as possible.
This is Mzantsi. We have 11 official languages, so why not have them (AND OURSELVES) speak more than 1 language fluently?

maddie
03 Oct 2007 04:41

ek stem nie saam nie met jou Maddie.Afrikaaners praat nie ander taal waneer hulle praat tussen ander Afrikaaner.

yes they don't but when they're together they speak iAfrikaans yabo, they'll even fight for it, but thina darkies we don't even care if our languages die or what.

I still blame parents.

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 04:41

Shirmell wrote:"... we never use the word coconut, at least not here in PE."

Im from King Williams Town, am a P.E frequenter (sorry for the broken English) and I know the word coconut!

KeleFabulous
03 Oct 2007 04:41

Bi tiao...can u tell me what this means? and thanks for ur reply to the soweto vs sowerto concept! mutual feeling there...

mina i think there's just too many labels we can do away with really! coconut...cheeseboy/girl...it's all ridiculous! i only started going to a pvt school in high school. but by then my english was excellent (as told by my nu english teachers at this particular school when i started). and learning and/or knowing english has nothing to do with the school u go to..we have tv and books as the major influencers. my dad actually forced us to read at a very young age. he'd bring books and bought us a dictionary (to refer to when we came across difficult words). i must've been 9 at the time. i hated it at first but soon developed a strong liking to it. this is where i got my education of the english language from, not from schooling.

now at some point after starting at this pvt school i started speaking in english with my friends. we did this everywhere! on the phone/taxis..everywhere! i think this is normal for teens. at the time if people became annoyed then that's when we made it worse! i c that happening with my 14 yr old sister now and it annoys the hell outta me! ofcos, she being a teen, and me having been a teen, she doesn't and i didn't see it as something so bad. but then i, like she will, grew up. and ofcos i took more pride in my heritage than my knowledge of the english language! i stopped using my english name (which is the name i got introduced by by my family from a very young age at school). when i got to tech i was the one doing the introductions so i was once again kele. (and what is it with having a name for school and another for home???) i have been kele ever since and have neva looked back! i'm even considering having my english name deleted from my id book!

what i'm trying to say here guys is it's just a stage one goes thru and at some point one has to outgrow this silliness!!! mina with people i struggle to communicate with i revert to englis. when i meet u for the first time i'll khuluma/bua with u but if i c u prefer speaking english then i really don't mind it! there's a difference between preference and actually trying to be who you're not!

Segololo
03 Oct 2007 04:42

Guys, My perception of a "coconut" is not just about the language and preference to food. We all eat shrimp and prawns these days!

It is about the behaviour of a black person; when they think and do things that are predominantly white and belittle or look down on what black people do. They always have to make sure that they are not seen in a way that reflects black culture or tradition.

I am writing a full article on this topic!

Feza
03 Oct 2007 04:44

Nna i personally think if someone wants to speak and write in english all the time, hey...good for them, its up to them.

It only get to my nerves when a so called snobor cocnut uses words such as: i mean really now, like...like, you know what I'm saying, and other cliches all the time. It sounds so fake.

My three year old niece's name is KARABO, she goes to a white school and speak english and knows the language more than she knows Setswana. she calls herself Miss K and when you ask her what her name is, she says something like "Curabo" . i think its so funny. what her mom could at least do is speak to her and encourage family to speak to her in Setswana. that girl is loosing her roots unaware, she's only a kid.

Anyway...

Username
03 Oct 2007 04:45

@Unik

unfortunately you wouldnt hear me when I speak.

mabhebheza
03 Oct 2007 04:48

Feel me Annony!!
@ Monchoonza u so right zidom lezinto empty vessels ezibangumsido ngale broken English yabo.. mina i went 2a white dominated school that doesnt mean i must irritate people with my A+ English accent 2me if umuntu aqala lezi zamacoconut i just say "oh shame uyafika elwizweni laka George usaliphaphela"

Condom
03 Oct 2007 04:59

Because English is a universal language, its important for us to know how to speak it, unfortunately. Broken or not. @ Xhosa Chick

I'm very sorry to tell u that u'll think otherwise when u go to foreign places like Germany, Italy, China etc.....you even think you dont even know the English itself with the Confusion the residents give u!

Feza
03 Oct 2007 05:04

i agree with Kelefabulous.

Just because you go to a white school, that does not make you white, and you will never become white, even with the latest technology in cosmetics and hair extensions. thats what i always tell my cousin who only dates White guys. she has her reasons, and i respect that. but I always remind her not to look down at our black brothers.

My full name is Refilwe, and I dont have an English name. My late dad refused and apparently he said no first born of his was gonna have an english name. "If anyone, even if they are white, wants to know her name, they'll have to learn it and pronounce it well" so he said.

at first, as a kid, it hurt me that i didnt have an english name, but now i understand. there is no better identity than your name. And Kele is right when she says you dont necessarily have to get your knowledge of the english language from Schooling. the greatest way to improve you english and your vocabulary is via reading. If you had the priviledge of going to an english school, then great for y you. But for some who didn't -- hope is not all gone.

We know that English is not our first language but it is always so embarrasing when one uses "broken english" . Imagine if you're speaking at a public place and you go all goggas on people. its such a shame.

sponono
03 Oct 2007 05:06

love AFRIKAANERS,you'll never find another Afrikaaner speaking to the other nge Afrikaans

haayi uyithathaphi-ke leyondaba Maddie....or usho In Your Experience...
the thing about MOSt afrikaners, -English peeps have also historically made them feel like uncivilised/barbaric folkes and they try to hide being afrikaans (when around English peeps) but in fact when they are together!!!!...yoh ask me about it..and as for ther English.....I know a few afrikaaners who cant construct a proper english sentence...but they sure like their afrikaans so I dont know about NOT talkin to each other in afrikaans (even Charlize Theronspeaks it now and then -when in SA)

Cande
03 Oct 2007 05:08

I am a coconut that cannot speak English :)
My three year old niece's name is KARABO, she goes to a white school and speak english and knows the language more than she knows Setswana. she calls herself Miss K and when you ask her what her name is, she says something like "Curabo"
he he he.

Whatzup condom??
Honestly i don't know what a coconut is, maara what i hear around is that a cocnut is a person who is always rolling in English, even when the person is speaking to someone of the same tribe, the person does everything the western way. The type of food they eat, the company they keep, the places they live in, and basically evrything they do.

I seriously have a problem with such people. I am Tswana who did Setswana 1st language in School and although i don't roll when i speak i know i can speak English. and the English i know is enough to take me anywhere in the world.
I do not understand why i 2 year old must be taught English more than their own mother tongue, i personally think kids should begin learning more of their own language than English.

People tend to confuse this "Coconuts" with intelligent people, so immediately when we hear a "coconut " speak we step back and listen.

Am proud of being Tswana, and i speak the language as often as i can. I'd rather try to speak Afrikaans with a coloured, than speak English. same with any other tribe but off course i can't always speak those languages since am still learning.
Am against the Education Department that wants to introduce the use of mother tongue as medium of instructions in school.

IYHO, u can imagine terms like Geometry, what will it be called in Tswana??

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 05:10

someone pls ring the ALARM Condom dusnt knw wat a Condom is in Vernac-its ok mch love.im nt the youngest of ppl bt hey i still watch YoTV or mst that be Adult TV bt if any of u hv noticed how long did it take Cecilia to speak Tsivhenda on the show, i agree with the X one parents also myb unconsciously contribute to the lack of encouragement bt i knw with my makhulu i start speaking English to her -undiqhwaba ndiphambane strong" (hot klap)

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 05:13

<<<We know that English is not our first language but it is always so embarrasing when one uses "broken english" . Imagine if you're speaking at a public place and you go all goggas on people. its such a shame.>>>
No everyone has had the privilege to go to a good school, or school for that matter!!! English is a blooming language, the fact that’s it’s used worldwide only means people are able to communicate globally. People who can’t speak proper English don’t have slepplss nights about it, neither should you!!!

KeleFabulous
03 Oct 2007 05:14

thank u spopo! and guys really it's not about what school u went to...that's y i sometimes have a problem (yes i do!) with people who use broken english. there is so much u can do to improve, on your own, that people just take things for granted and choose to look on others saying they think they're better. haaikhona!

look at marks maponyana. while he was a soccer playa (and when he first started commentating on sports) his english was te-rr-i-ble! and now listen to him speak! i doubt he went to school for that! it's probably because his job requires him to be around white people and he learnt that way. so naye he had his own way of learning. look at our very own icons...abo tat'u mandela and the likes...sure they are educated (most) but they learnt the language before going there...how? i'd say probably by reading. reading opens up doors guys. it's not about going to a white school or the best schools!

sponono
03 Oct 2007 05:15

Feza...TMI -(too much information)....hi hi hi I know you better now - or not?..just kidin

sigo
03 Oct 2007 05:18

lol Bi tiao, good point. but if a person cant pronounce the word or doesnt know what that word means, they are no to blame. and some of us dont know isiXhosa or isizulu that well, so translation is kinda needed here.

spice
03 Oct 2007 05:22

J you mentioned sumthin bout go jelasa motho o a buang English gantle nee ! (me not a tswana but i try) well I have neva till I met you ,you are good with words and i always learn a thing or two from you and wish to hear your voice
And fo the rikort I neva go to any maltrecial and dont give a dem what peolpe say about my langwej

MADENZA
03 Oct 2007 05:23

Mina if you can speak any of the african language pls pls pls dont speak to me in English, i can only acommodate Afrikaners and Makgowa.
- its a pity some of us were taught English in Sepedi until Matric so we started communicating in English at Varsity.

Cande
03 Oct 2007 05:29

<<<We know that English is not our first language but it is always so embarrasing when one uses "broken english" . Imagine if you're speaking at a public place and you go all goggas on people. its such a shame.>>>

Funny enough we will laugh at a person who speaks broken English, but when i speak broken Tswana non of my Tswana friend laughs at me.

Mina if you can speak any of the african language pls pls pls dont speak to me in English,
Same here Madenza

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 05:30

so is it bout the LANGUAGE or the ACCENT-thatha Spice (take Sigo haha).

Condom
03 Oct 2007 05:32

someone pls ring the ALARM Condom dusnt knw wat a Condom is in Vernac-its ok mch love........GOD forgive u! Bi tiao

Whatzup condom?? @Cande
Me cool sweets.

myname
03 Oct 2007 05:38

Andithi guys bathi practice makes perfect by speaking my broken English means, im trying 2 learn yona & im happy if i find some1 ozakundi-khumshisa and i need some1 that wil correct mi not a mocker.and shame u can laugh im one of them. Kaloku my tongue is hard bethunani & mna my teachers teach English ngesiXhosa if u know what i mean. Ukufundiswa iEnglish ngesiXhosa.

sponono
03 Oct 2007 05:42

Jordan said<<People who can’t speak proper English don’t have slepplss nights about it, neither should you!!!...
true... I hope the so called "coconuts" dont spend sleepless nights thinn about how they speak english all the time..hi hi hi

<<Cande-gril said I seriously have a problem with such people.>>.that is a bit dramatic dont you think...
I believe the challenge is for parents to teach their kids to speak/read/write their mother tounge...as for when and where one speaks english is no big deal as ong as the one listening can hear and understnd you...of course public etiqette requirees your timing..e.g am I amongst tradtional conserative folks or do I sound like I'm showing all of -that depends on an indivsual..just like we cant do anything about someone speaking sesotho in a taxi full of Zulus or speaking swahili among a group of locals...all they can do is call you names..but its not an earth shattering experience 9expcet maybe for coconuts to a certain extent...so in away by making this an issue we are discriminating againt abo-model see (I'm gonna strt a support groups for coconuts...LOL)

spice
03 Oct 2007 05:43

@Madenza shem ngwana gesho ke a go kweshisha mara go tla loka nee o tswa kae gae by the way

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 05:44

Candegirl writes: " I do not understand why a 2 year old must be taught English more than their own mother tongue"

I dont know about those 2 yr olds, but my one speaks both the languages I speak. I dont teach him one over the other, but his English vocab is slightly more than his Xhosa

These kids unfortunately go to educares where its very racially mixed, and the teachers teach in English, and communicate with them in English.
They spend most of the day at school, and English is the language they are exposed to more. They are still learning how to speak, and the first words they pick up are the ones used at school mostly.

When they get home, they will use those words, and because they are still learning, and u dont wanna confused their young minds, you carry on using them, and mix with their mother-tongue.

My one says words like: "enkosi" AND "ta" ;
"vala" AND "close" etc etc etc. and knows that both languages mean the same thing
.

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 05:44

love u too Condom i c me n u in da future

sponono
03 Oct 2007 05:47

Condom
a Condom in Zulu ..iskhwama sepipi

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 05:50

<<<Andithi guys bathi practice makes perfect by speaking my broken English means, im trying 2 learn yona & im happy if i find some1 ozakundi-khumshisa and i need some1 that wil correct mi not a mocker>>>

DANKIE SANI!!!! Couldn't have said it better!

And its irritating when the "good" English speakers, who want to be left alone merrily speaking their Higher Grade English, but turn around and complain... cringe... roll their eyes... embarrassed... laugh when people speak broken English. I say live and let live! It's not only the Lower Grade English Speakers who create animosity, they also do.

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 05:50

@Andi01-->u saying,u hear Xhosa gals speak English ezitreynini nasezibhasini: Ngabo bodwa qha obavayo???????? if ngabo bodwa then u surely dnt have ears .What abt indians ,sotho's,Zulus,ndebele& coloured chicks who speak English nabo, is it their mother tounge???coz its surely not their mother,im a Xhosa gal&yes i sumtyms mix my language bt we shud not be singled out,ingathi sithi sedwa abenza lento.

Ba ngumlungu who speaks an African language niyachazeka & act like he/she is SUm God,bt when a black person speaks broken English or Perfect English us black people begin calling each other names coz it doesnt matter whether a black person speaks perfect or broken English its still an issue.

MADENZA
03 Oct 2007 05:51

@spice -lebella profile ngwana geso.

spice
03 Oct 2007 05:52

Cande did you perhaps edit your name cause me is seeing sungone with your name in another blog
And litle spicy will learn english the same way I did I'd rather worry about betta things

andi01
03 Oct 2007 05:52

Condom
a Condom in Xhosa ..isingxobo somthondo

spice
03 Oct 2007 05:59

What did I tell you guys about jordan
Hee bathong kganthe sponono le Andile why bare rogaka naa! ga ba leke le ga nnyane go bebofatsa polelo ba nyaka go iswa kgorong
Haaaaaaaaaaa try google that!!

andi01
03 Oct 2007 06:00

@ boogy -babe @Andi01-->u saying,u hear Xhosa gals speak English ezitreynini nasezibhasini: Ngabo bodwa qha obavayo???????? if ngabo bodwa then u surely dnt have ears .What abt indians ,sotho's,Zulus,ndebele& coloured chicks who speak English nabo, is it their mother tounge???coz its surely not their mother,im a Xhosa gal&yes i sumtyms mix my language bt we shud not be singled out,ingathi sithi sedwa abenza lento.

Phambi kokuba undithuke uthi andinadlebe sisi ngewukhe waqonda ukuba kutheni ndisithi abaxhosa, ndingumxhosakazi mna yaye ndiyazingca ngobuxhosa bam. Ndiziva ndisegunyeni lokuthetha ngamanye amaxhosakazi afana nam. Kuyintlung kum ukubona ulwimi lwethu lushicileleka ngalendlela. yiyolonto ke ndibabaze amaxhosa. Andikwazi ukubiza ezinye intlanga ngoba mna bendihlala ekhayelitsha kwaye uninzi lwabantu abahlala phayana ngamaxhosa. Lento ndiyisebenzisileyo ngumzekelo wento ebendisakuyibona izihlandlo ezinintsi, kwaye zange nditsho ukuba amaxhosa odwa. kwaye bendisonga ixesha lokubhala ngaphakoko ngendizibalulu nezinye intlanga.

andi01
03 Oct 2007 06:01

Hee bathong kganthe sponono le Andile why bare rogaka naa! ga ba leke le ga nnyane go bebofatsa polelo ba nyaka go iswa kgorong, @ please translate kaloku siqholo

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 06:04

Those who went to model C schools,I say speak as much English as u like coz your parents sent u pha to speak it well,u dont have to apologise for speaking English well,speaking English with an accent or ingathi u have a potatoe on your throat doensnt matter that shows ukba your parents ddnt waste their money in sending you there.As much as being from ekasi or speaking tsotsi taal doesnt make u 100% African.

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 06:07

BOOGY-BABE-u saying,u hear Xhosa gals speak English ezitreynini nasezibhasini: Ngabo bodwa qha obavayo???????? if ngabo bodwa then u surely dnt have ears .What abt indians ,sotho's,Zulus,ndebele& coloured chicks who speak English nabo, is it their mother tounge???coz its surely not their mother,im a Xhosa gal&yes i sumtyms mix my language bt we shud not be singled out,ingathi sithi sedwa abenza lento. HOLD UP MI DARLING im sure it was no attack on the CLAN (MAXHOSAS)she hears amaXhosa most of the time EVERYONE DUS IT-bck to the issue at hand is it the LANGUAGE or ACCENT- COZ IF ITS THE LANGUAGE THAN OUR OWN PRESIDENT IS A COCONUT-hv any of u ever heard him speak "his mother tongue" thatha BOOGY-BABE when addressing the AU n evrythin else n than u get the presidents from other countries speaking in their "languages" and hving someone translate (headfones).

belz
03 Oct 2007 06:08

Sponono & andi01, Note: this article does not warn against Strong Laguage and Nudity, hihihi.

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 06:08

@Andi01-->oh sorry Andi01 Khandiyiqonde ukuba bungena xesha i was commenting kwinto ebendiyifunda bra,hay'kabi,PEACE!!!

Condom
03 Oct 2007 06:12

Condom
a Condom in Zulu ..iskhwama sepipi @Sponono
Good Boy...eish sowri...Good Man!

Condom
a Condom in Xhosa ..isingxobo somthondo @Andi01
Girl/Boy? Sowri me confused....

Cande
03 Oct 2007 06:12

Andi
Hee bathong kganthe sponono le Andile why bare rogaka naa! ga ba leke le ga nnyane go bebofatsa polelo ba nyaka go iswa kgorong
People why is Sponono and Andile swearing at us, they don't even try to be nice when thay are writing, they want to be taken to court"kgorong" (i think)
Cande did you perhaps edit your name cause me is seeing sungone with your name in another blog
Eish Spice, you know this people who try to steal other people's shine, but wait ubtil after the 13th, i will just call myself Cande.

I hear you guys, but parents also need to play a role in teaching their children their language, even when they speak English @ schools.

Haaiye Shame Andi don't get all hardcore with us, sisafunda kaloku!!

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 06:13

eish Andi01, tried googling it only translates to foreign languages and of cos jst Eng& Afr

spice
03 Oct 2007 06:13

ROTFLMAO for those you can't read what I just wrote it serves you right for ignoring other african langweges anyway I'll elaborate in my guest book ha ha !

andi01
03 Oct 2007 06:14

@belz nudity. he he he he hay uyandigqiba, kwa kwa kwa

Cande
03 Oct 2007 06:17

I hear you guys, but parents also need to play a role in teaching their children their language, even when they speak English @ schools.

What am tring to say is kids spent roughly 35% of their time @ play schools, creche, school e.t.c and 65% @ home with their parents. You find that some parents even find it great that their kids speak English more than their mother tongue, that they end up making English the medium of instructions @ home.
If these kids where taught their Tswana/Zulu in this 65% of the time, at a young age then they will have a good foundation of their language. Although they will speak English with their friends at School, they will still not forget their own language.

andi01
03 Oct 2007 06:21

Sorry ya all
Phambi kokuba undithuke uthi andinadlebe sisi ngewukhe waqonda ukuba kutheni ndisithi abaxhosa, ndingumxhosakazi mna yaye ndiyazingca ngobuxhosa bam. Ndiziva ndisegunyeni lokuthetha ngamanye amaxhosakazi afana nam. Kuyintlung kum ukubona ulwimi lwethu lushicileleka ngalendlela. yiyolonto ke ndibabaze amaxhosa. Andikwazi ukubiza ezinye intlanga ngoba mna bendihlala ekhayelitsha kwaye uninzi lwabantu abahlala phayana ngamaxhosa. Lento ndiyisebenzisileyo ngumzekelo wento ebendisakuyibona izihlandlo ezinintsi, kwaye zange nditsho ukuba amaxhosa odwa. kwaye bendisonga ixesha lokubhala ngaphakoko ngendizibalulu nezinye intlanga.

@ boogy-babe, before u start insulting me by saying I have no ears (my listening skills suck), u should have asked why am I saying Xhosa's only. i am proud xhosa chick, i believe that i have a right to speak my mind about other xhosa chicks. It breaks my heart when our language is taken for granted especially by us. I couldnt mention other tribes for I grew up in Khayelitsha and the majority of residents are Xhosa speakers, what I wrote was an example of something I witnessed often.And i never said xhosa girls , and i was also saving time by not writing all the people with difffernt languages that live in SA.

Zazacious
03 Oct 2007 06:22

Mina neh?i dont have a problem with ppl expressing
themselves Ngesingisi,Mara Bathong there are just ppl
ABA-ROLAYO now thats what im against.
Heck they end up sounding more than white(Or whateva they are immitating)

Isingxobo somthondo- what a heavy word and its sounds so painful

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 06:24

oh mi guys this hs been such a eye opener(sori being mi old ANALYSER SELF)Boogy-babe- notice hw RESPECTFUL yo apology came across when u realised she was one of us (MXHOSAKAZI)-with or without Andi01 xplaining why her comment was summarised.i also think the word could also cum from "Abo uzoythola kangani uhlele ekhoneni"(hw u gonna get it sitting at a corner) jst bcos u don give them time of day they start clling u names

Cya
03 Oct 2007 06:24

I agree with u Kele. I also went to a model c in high school and they took me because of my good english from ezilalini. I still speak good english and twang if I want to but I would rather speak my Xhosa. I still don't understand why I would be with omnye umxhosa and still speak English unless akasiva isixhosa for some reason and then I wouldn't label tthem coconut. I still don't believe good english ifundwa emodel c plus u have model c's abophula isilungu betwanga benjalo. I know people like u Kuli noHlubi who speak English with an English accent but still speak Xhosa fluently, now that is what I call being proud of your roots.

Cya
03 Oct 2007 06:25

I agree with u Kele. I also went to a model c in high school and they took me because of my good english from ezilalini. I still speak good english and twang if I want to but I would rather speak my Xhosa. I still don't understand why I would be with omnye umxhosa and still speak English unless akasiva isixhosa for some reason and then I wouldn't label tthem coconut. I still don't believe good english ifundwa emodel c plus u have model c's abophula isilungu betwanga benjalo. I know people like u Kuli noHlubi who speak English with an English accent but still speak Xhosa fluently, now that is what I call being proud of your roots.

zuluprincess
03 Oct 2007 06:26

Mina I was just stunned by the way uNoleen kept on saying "but guys I still dont know what a coconut is"

She knows so well what a coconut is nje!!

Cande
03 Oct 2007 06:29

Everything You just said now Cya answers the q's in this article.

andi01
03 Oct 2007 06:31

This topic remind me of my favourite singer, Tu Nokwe

singing

Ingane kamalume, ithayikwazu kukhuluma, ikhuluma isulungu kuphela
My cousin say she doesn’t speak Zulu, she speaks English only X2

Ngathi ngiyabulisa ngithi sawubona
I greeted her, saying sawubona

Yathi (she said)
What are you talking about?

Ngathi ngiyabulisa ngithi sawubona

Yathi (she said)
Don’t talk a silly language

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 06:36

so CANDE-GIRL kuwe ne a khukhunut is someone who cnt speak their mother tongue FLUENTLY- than somebody shoot me coz i get stuck sometimes

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 06:41

Andz we ALL learning here- so here it goes
Ingane kamalume, ithayikwazu kukhuluma, ikhuluma isulungu kuphela
My cousin say she doesn’t speak Zulu, she speaks English only X2
correction
my uncle's child....

Sdakamiswa
03 Oct 2007 06:52

im not sure if this is relevant, long speech, whilst i was reading thru' the replies this came to mind, maybe cause i am hi....
http://www.soweto.co.za/html/i_iamafrican.htm

spice
03 Oct 2007 06:59

Bi tiao are you trying to demonstrate what a coconut you are hi..h i... My uncle
s child is my cousin and U-Andile betta miss your reply otherwise... go tla nkga go sa bola yuwiiii I'm luuuuving my mother tongue

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 07:02

its OK SDAKAMISWA nothin is irelevant on this BLOG N BESYDS WE UNDERSTAND UR SPECIAL...n iv been lookin to get mi hands on the "im an AFRICAN-bt ubukhukhunut bona top of mi head COCONUT BROWN OUTSIDE WHITE INSIDE-WAT IS IT THAT UR DOIN to b given that name IS IT RITE

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 07:02

@Bi tiao-GAL u got a point ngoPresident and truly dnt have icomment ngalowo ngoba nzase ndibe off topic.

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 07:06

mara SPICE ho rata ho thoma feuds- ei im trying.DIRECT TRANSLATION its MY UNCLE'S CHILD and COUSIN is MZALA

spice
03 Oct 2007 07:15

Bi tiao that was suppose to be a joke my baad for being confused peace my bro cause I dig the article I don't want you to delete my reply or disable it LOL

Sdakamiswa
03 Oct 2007 07:18

bi tiao?........ whats that? I know u undastand im challenged......

dudu-cum-2-jozi!!!
03 Oct 2007 07:25

elo mense.
Honestly BI tiao ( r u chinese, by any chance), ur blog is a bit flat and its shallow. U dont give much info abt the show all u seem 2 do is attack Bridgette. I've bin labelled a coconut before and I only think people giv such labels 2 feel better abt themselves. traditionally a coconut is that tropical fruit thingy, thats black on the outside & white on the inside. so i guess if ur labelled a coconut ur a black person whose behaviour is very "white". WHAT BULL!!!!! I think people tend 2 label others who do not fall into their comfort zones and thats wrong. if speaking english, thinking in english and so forth earns sum1 the label "coconut", so be it!! Its argued that such behaviour isnt African but is wearing a suit very African, Is wearing pants as a female very African?? NO!! We must stop hiding behind this whole " its not African" mentality and stop judging each other! Klaar

Intombi yonmZulu is out.
PS. The grammar & spelling in this article is a bit substandard

spice
03 Oct 2007 07:27

NowI'm confused,maybe because sdakamiswa is in the house haaa.. rotfl
Sdaka' heita hola my brada you see spice is 100% not a coconut

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 07:28

SDAKWA sori i mean SDAKAMISWA ur not challenged u r special (confuse the enemy) Spice as for wena ...(fill in the missing words)haha no BEEF jst PORK.guys jst knw that if my BASI could cum in here n check wat iv done for the day-id lose mi job on the spot n go be a khukhunut at home

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 07:37

GUYS PLS DONT PANICK BUT WE HV AN INTRUDER IN OUR MIDST-Dudu-cum-2-jozi, the article is so flat thts why its been goin on since 10 this morning- n wat ur reiterating has been said already-basically UR REPEATING YOURSELF-n hey im no colour expert bt hey a COCONUT is NOT BLACK ON THE OUTSIDE N WHITE INSYD,N ITS NO tradition bt A FACT YES IT IS A fruit .i may not hv elaborated alot on the episode's content bt u will read (when u do it properly this tym) that i was merely asking wat it is- WHY do ppl cll eachother names esp COCONUT.
PS. The grammar & spelling in this article is a bit substandard - now who is judging who?

Intombi yonmZulu is out. NAMI INTOMBI YOMZULU NGIYAYIHLONIPHA FOR UMBONO WAYO.thank u mi black sista

Cande
03 Oct 2007 07:37

to Bi Tiao

Honestly i don't know what a coconut is, maara what i hear around is that a cocnut is a person who is always.

NB: i've highlighted hear.

Sdakamiswa
03 Oct 2007 07:43

Googled them.......

LMAO…. Laugh my *ss off
LMFAO…. Laugh my *ucken *ss off
ROTFLMAO………Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

googled bi tiao..................... response
?Bi Ti O ?HMOCVD??Bi TiO ...

hhhhmmmmm

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 07:45

ai ai ai Cande-girl r becumin like Andi01 manje le wena waSummariser "who is always WHAT"

ngwana
03 Oct 2007 07:46

I've been called a coconut most of my life cause of the way i speak apperantly i twang (thank gaad for blogging, maybe some of you guys might complain)

I speak english 90 % of the time so automatically my thoughts and dreams are in english.

my mom is xhosa and i cant speak it properly. when i speak sotho people say "you're not sotho ne?"

I am cultured - so i cant be called white on the inside.

andi01
03 Oct 2007 07:46

@ Bi taio, listen you came here with an article and peopel attacked you and I yes I stood up for you. And now you are trying to play teacher with me. Uthandakabi ukucorrecta. Listen here your uncle's child is ur couzin isn that so. You dont have to do direct translation. so you telling me if i could say uspice is hot (as in great/amazing) you'd go looking for the fire extinguisher coz you think she's on flames. If u have much time in ur had fix ur article rather than correcting me, and futhi ungandiqheli, ndakubonisa maqhekezengqela mna.

spice
03 Oct 2007 07:47

Eish yaaa I'm rolling on the floor rite now dudu stop hating my darling you are scaring u-Bi tiao read what she said
GUYS PLS DONT PANICK BUT WE HV AN INTRUDER IN OUR MIDST-
and when did you come to jozi btw
And wena bi tiao why did you call sdakamiswa sdakwa ROTFLMFAS

Cande
03 Oct 2007 07:48

ai ai ai Cande-girl r becumin like Andi01 manje le wena waSummariser "who is always WHAT"

Wa reng nah??

Foxy gal
03 Oct 2007 07:51

Sdakamizwa have u had yo afternoon fix??

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 07:53

eish mara Andi01 why don u c gal"THEY R HATING ESP CANDE" as for "uspice is hot " direct translation wudnt b SHIZ ON FIRE - uSpice uyashisa/ushushu- dont let her spoil a gud thing

Cande
03 Oct 2007 07:56

eish mara Andi01 why don u c gal"THEY R HATING ESP CANDE" as for "uspice is hot " direct translation wudnt b SHIZ ON FIRE - uSpice uyashisa/ushushu- dont let her spoil a gud thing

I can see you keep on mentioning me, ke go boditse gore wa reng?? you still not saying anything!!

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 07:56

CANDE u said-Honestly i don't know what a coconut is, maara what i hear around is that a cocnut is a person who is always.
so ke botsa hore ALWAYS WHAT

spice
03 Oct 2007 07:57

ROTFLMFAO,ROTFLMFAO
Makheswandile whateva you took(smoked) today i have no comment anyway thats the reason why we all wanna hang out here on TVSA
and wena diretebatsi(drugs) it looks like you are contagius evry'1 one is crazee up ni here

sjura
03 Oct 2007 08:00

@boogy-babe Andi01 is not a bra..........mayb u got confused by the Award she got(i thot u wr a guy)

Username
03 Oct 2007 08:00

People please read TDC open letter to the TVSA family. Before sibone amaqhekeza engqele ka Andi01. I surely don’t want to witness that.

ROFLMAO.

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:00

LMFAO@Ndakubonisa amaqekeze nqgele,wow!!!Will

Cande
03 Oct 2007 08:01

No the point of that was to show that i mentioned that i HEAR people say a coconut is .................. and i don't know what it is!!

akere wena wa re "so CANDE-GIRL kuwe ne a khukhunut is someone who cnt speak their mother tongue FLUENTLY- than somebody shoot me coz i get stuck sometimes".

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 08:03

sori Cande wnted to say Spice,guys is it that time of day im sensing antagonism-understood its been a long day

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:03

got that sjura.

Sdakamiswa
03 Oct 2007 08:06

FG wrote....,
Sdakamizwa have u had yo afternoon fix??
i'v had sum, bt its wearin off, am gonna go again...

spice wrote.......
wena diretebatsi
that sounds awful....

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:08

oko bekuthethwa ngale topic oko kusile abantu abapheli mandla,okokwangale ntseni.Shame Bi tiao u opened a can of worms wena noNolean lowo wakho.

Lex
03 Oct 2007 08:18

@ Sweeti my baby
1. it's really actually none of your business why the next person speaks only English.
2, but if you MUST know, at least have the decency to approach the person with respect and honest curiosity instead of a bullsh!t attitude, and expect them to be all apologetic for something they can't help.

I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 08:21

Boogy-babe- don c it as opening a can of worms i think bsyds evrything else I PICKED (lack of a beter word) EVERYONE'S BRAIN - it got ppl talking n with over 130 REPLIES (how do u like dat)dudu-cum-2-jozi "ur blog is a bit flat and its shallow."i think i will honestly say WE all dont knw if we hv clled ppl that WHY we do - n as Noeleen said 'GUYS I STILL DONT KNOW WAT A khukhunut is

spice
03 Oct 2007 08:23

Sdaka go get your fix sweety it sounds like you need it

Username
03 Oct 2007 08:27

The show was never about defining a coconut but why Bridgette and crew were called coconuts and why they feel they shouldn’t be labeled as such.
Noleen’s question was a sort of a rhetorical question meaning there is one definition of the word coconut and no one can exactly pin point what it is other than have a perception of what it is. All the guests were called coconuts for different reasons and each of them have different cultural backgrounds.

The show lacked research on the part of the host who made an arse of herself trying to be partial and not come off supporting the statement. She kept on asking the question to show she herself doesn’t believe people should be labeled as such due to whatever convictions they may have

The show sugar coated the topic and she lost the plot by calling the author of the book Coconut, Kopano Matlwa without having grasped the essence of the book itself.

Bi tao your article is as shady and confusing as the show.

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:28

Whateva u say wethu Bi tiao,whateva u say.

Lex
03 Oct 2007 08:31

MADENZA WA MPOLAYA - 'its a pity some of us were taught English in Sepedi until Matric so we started communicating in English at Varsity.'

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 08:32

thank you username - hence u took the time to elaborate on the show/topic and even type an essay-no one ever said the show was bout defining wat is is but when Noeleen keeps on asking "guys wat is a coconut" wont giving an answer to that "giving it a definition

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 08:36

boogy-babe, most of the time when ppl PUT IT OUT THERE N DONT WANT TO CATCH THEY SAY Whateva u say wethu Bi tiao,whateva u say.-BASICALLY MEANING u gots nothing to say bck- OWN YOUR FEELINGS

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:38

Yazi iYouth yalapha eMzantsi is soo brilliant,im saying this coz of these brilliant replies.Whoeva said iyouth yanamhlanje yiLost Generation makayotya ihumble pie then azofunda apha coz ayikho lonto,bubuvuvu.Well done guys!!!!

Username
03 Oct 2007 08:40

at least my essay gives more info than esisigcebhezana se article yakho.

if you did not keep attacking people and actually take the advice you were given I doubt you would have 130 replies.

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:42

Bi tiao do u have 2be so defencive all the time or shud i say do u have to explain yonke into cz la'Whateva' ddnt meanlento uy'thethayo.Anyway im owning my feelings ke(whatever that means,eish)

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:43

lol@sgcebhezana

Cande
03 Oct 2007 08:44

if you did not keep attacking people and actually take the advice you were given I doubt you would have 130 replies.

he he heeeeeeeeeeee
LMFAO

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 08:50

myb i like to explain (did that in school hoping for extra marks)it worked as for attacking ppl ( i never attack the character of the person i don know (eish here i go again explaining mi self) i was merely instigate conversation amongst the young ppl whom i thot will hv a lot to say (yes they did) regarding stupid "magezas" clling ppl COCONUT

Xhosa Chick
03 Oct 2007 08:57

I only saw it at the end of the show where she was like:
" I still dont know what a coconut is. ha ha ha ha. Join us tommorrow here on 3 Talk..."
etc etc etc

KeleFabulous
03 Oct 2007 08:57

huwieee!! somehow i gotta say i'm not surprised at the direction this "blogg" has taken...

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 08:58

LMFAO coz u LMFAO- i ddnt think this was a Sis Dolly so "...people and actually take the advice you were given" i never asked for ADVICE.NEWAY GUYS ITS BEEN GREAT WHETHER U THOT THE ARTICLE STANK BIGGIES OR JST OK YOL HV BEEN GREAT SPORTS - KEEP IT REAL YOU COCONUTS haha

Bi tiao
03 Oct 2007 09:03

ai fabulous one - i sensed it a while ago...im actually suprised it went on for so long...its ok gal.looking forward to your blog tomoro

Toxic
03 Oct 2007 09:07

so you telling me if i could say uspice is hot (as in great/amazing) you'd go looking for the fire extinguisher coz you think she's on flames. If u have much time in ur had fix ur article rather than correcting me, and futhi ungandiqheli, ndakubonisa maqhekezengqela mna.

Andi, this is so damn funny!!!!!

Bi tiao, i struggled to read your article because of the "sms-appropriate abbreviations" so I just relied on the comments to get the gist of the paragraph you posted so forgive me for commenting on Andi's post and not on the question you posed besides I don't wanna be told:

n wat ur reiterating has been said already-basically UR REPEATING YOURSELF-

which i feel defeats the purpose of this blog....if you don't want people repeating what's been said, u're effectively closing the door to all further comments on the topic.

Use it , don't use it.

Tshd21
03 Oct 2007 09:12

Maybe they do think and dream in English...

Eish, Ie nna ke nagana jalo Jordi LMAO!!! Phela nna, I think in Setswana and then translate to English!!!

dudu-cum-2-jozi!!!
03 Oct 2007 09:17

Bi toai, sumthng like that

Im glad ur article got so many responses. i wasnt attacking u just voicing my opinion. Anyway, just thot i should teel u that

spice
25 Oct 2007 08:13

I have neva laughed so hard in my life this is what I call having fun

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