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Vat en Sit!

Written by dudu-cum-2-jozi!!! from the blog in my opinion..:) on 03 Oct 2007
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There is a lot of talk and controversy around the topic of couples living together before marriage lately. Varied views have been expressed on the matter with people going so far as calling it evil and not a blessed setup in the eyes of uMvelinqangi. It always amazes me how easily people use religion to back up or substantiate their personal views and opinions. (An opinion though is just that, an opinion). Before giving ones two cents worth, it would be prudent to first try and understand the rationale behind this new craze. Sifuna ukwazi!

Probably the biggest reason for lovers living together is the simplest and most obvious, love. Two people feeling so strongly about each other and wanting to live together is the biggest driver of this new phenomenon. Traditionalists will be quick to argue that if a man and a woman love each other so much, why then do they not just get married? It’s a valid point but when one factors in the realities of marriage for young Black People, its certainly no longer that easy to ‘just’ get married. The cost of the traditional as well as western aspects of a wedding can get astronomical. The cost of a beautiful wedding gown is only equalled at times by the Hugo Boss leather jacket that your father requests from his in laws requests uma kuzocelwa intokazi yakwakhe. Eyi amakhehla aseyasi verstana istayela nokotini.

Of late the trend yo’kipita is driven more by practical considerations versus the traditional emotional ones. The cost of living today is at an all time high. One of the biggest costs is accommodation. Certainly staying with a loved could save one a lot of rent money. I have even heard off couples purchasing a house jointly so as to be able to enter the property market. There are added benefits of staying with a person of the opposite sex. For us,women, staying with a man can provide a sense of physical security in these unsafe times. And for amajitha well hey, they do appreciate the culinary skills that women come with as well as their home building traits.

There are downsides of iVat n Sit. From iperspective yabantu besilisa, staying with a woman will have consequences for your social lifestyle as well as general freedom. There are serious expectations you create in a woman’s mind by staying with her and she could forecast this present ‘arrangement’ as ‘forever’ and as such may begin viewing herself as uMrs. Once in this mind state, she will in affect begin to act as if she were your wife. Personally, i think having a live-in partner before you have consciously made the decision to settle down is nigh impossible. From a female perspective, by staying with a man, you run the risk of placing a man in a comfort zone where he has in effect gained a ‘wife’ but has not paid the price as it were nor committed himself to marriage. You will be amazed how quickly 10 years can go by nikipitile.

Without really expressing judgement on whether cohabitation is correct, I can raise one important consequence of this which affects both the man and the woman equally. By staying together couples in effect raise their relationship to a level which they may not necessarily be ready to go to. Staying with somebody is a hell of a thing to do. There are consequences of this. The question is are you ready for these? If even one of you is not, you both have in essence condemned your relationship to an early conclusion. That is the real test.




46 Comments

dudu-cum-2-jozi!!!
03 Oct 2007 08:05

moderators plz help. i'd like 2 put a pic onto my blog. i dont want that plain tv column image Thnx

Toodecent
03 Oct 2007 08:12

dudu click on the Edit button image.... it works the same way as a word document. Should u wanna upload pictures u got from a certain site them just copy their url into the allocated space on the add image window. If its pictures from your PC then first click on Image upload on top of your screen from your blogg settings when you done ...like in a word document use the appropriate button of adding images(A window should open) then click on browse server to select images from the Image upload window that should be open by this stage.

Hope this helps

Moderator

sjura
03 Oct 2007 08:30

eish Dudu kanti y u tryng to confuse us uyicheri Yomzulu o uyiNdoda yomZulu?mmh interesting topic by the way ......ndiaspina

pinksoul
03 Oct 2007 08:37

Ha ha ha i got this email today

Dimago
03 Oct 2007 08:44

It’s a valid point but when one factors in the realities of marriage for young Black People, its certainly no longer that easy to ‘just’ get married. The cost of the traditional as well as western aspects of a wedding can get astronomical. The cost of a beautiful wedding gown is only equalled at times by the Hugo Boss leather jacket that your father in law requests uma uzombesa. Eyi amakhehla aseyasi verstana istayela nokotini.
I dont think that this is a valid reason yo ku kipita. If you cant afford both western and/or traditional, just pay lobola and go sign ko magistrate....problem solved!

tshepiso
03 Oct 2007 08:46

Dear moderator 
please help me  I have just sending an article but it does not appear, is there anything wrong or what? please cum back to me I am getting crazzy because I wrote such a big long topic . and please if it is been deleted inform me please.

Dudu sorry to get out of line  -

Toxic
03 Oct 2007 08:48

huu, another copy and paste only this time, the source hasn't been acknowledged...unless the e-mail is from you dudu?

sjura
03 Oct 2007 08:50

uchane ucwethe ngotolo DIMAGO............hey gal(*waiving* n ma silva  sta on ma tooth showin )

boogy-babe!
03 Oct 2007 08:51

ABAfowethu baphelile,yilama vat 'n sit.

dudu-cum-2-jozi!!!
03 Oct 2007 08:53

pinksoul. love, there is no way u could have received this article on ur email. its an original work that me and my brother, soulcat, put together for a Durban lifestyle website. His is the Editor. You can go 2 ubumnandi.com to get his contact details and verify that this was is one of his exclusive works. Sorry honey u got the wrong chick.Sjura, that would explain why it has been written from a male perspective. Im a female. hope u find the article intellectually stimulating.

Mncwah

MADENZA
03 Oct 2007 08:54

i hope it is your work Dudu, cos really we dont need this.
-please come out and confirm gore it is your work i want to comment.

Toxic
03 Oct 2007 08:56

pinksoul..where did u get the e-mail from?

MADENZA
03 Oct 2007 08:57

Thanks Dudu
-i dont do vat and sit, because as authi ga ke batle go ke tswallela.

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 08:58

The grammar is standard... good for you!

pinksoul
03 Oct 2007 08:58

@ dudu-cum-2-jozi!!! 
Actually i did receive it kwi email...(just means then that someone must've copied it from the website)

sponono
03 Oct 2007 08:59

I think le-article ka-dudu isivele yasho yone into ebengizoyisho..somanje kungcono ngizithulele..when we(moderators..LOL) say elaborate it dont mean vele uyingenele yonke itopic singakwazi nokuphawula..LOL 
and if this is some chain-mail emaila rticle (like  pinksoul suggesting )please dont robba us ......otherwise I like this topic  just think what to add   

Duduzile...kushukuthi wake wakipita no Jabulani wena Dudu wavele wangakushada emva kwemiynaka eyishumi ...bubomi obo

pinksoul
03 Oct 2007 09:02

I got the email from a friend of mine

I just checkd the website(ubumnandi.com) and its there like Dudu said

sjura
03 Oct 2007 09:06

SITTING ON THE CHAIR LAUGHING MA SMALL *$$ OFF"(SOTCLMSAO)@ Spopopo:Duduzile...kushukuthi wake wakipita no Jabulani wena Dudu wavele wangakushada emva kwemiynaka eyishumi ...bubomi obo

KeleFabulous
03 Oct 2007 09:07

The grammar is standard... good for you!

kwa kwa kwa kwa

spopo...u said something on one of the articles izolo...and u were rite...

dudu-cum-2-jozi!!!
03 Oct 2007 09:08

Hlubelihle Radebe, Managing Director and Technical Director of www.ubumnandi.com. lovie, u can contact him at articles@ubumnandi.com to verify my story. dont like ama accusations.  Sponono my name is Vuyi, Im a student at eits. Im still 2 young 2 vat en sit with Jabulani or Siyabonga

dudu-cum-2-jozi!!!
03 Oct 2007 09:09

wits

sponono
03 Oct 2007 09:11

Duduzile says<<pinksoul. love, there is no way u could have received this article on ur email. its an original work that me and my brother, soulcat, put together for a Durban lifestyle website.>>

BASICALY ITS NOT ORIGINAL FOR TVSA COZ ITS ALREADY PUT ON SOME OTHER WEBSITE...we though you put this together  ESPESHELI FOR THINA TVSA COMMUNITY....  but I forgive you ngoba nami ng'phume' Durban

but next time start here coz thats where its at beaises you probably got fewer responses from that what what site...HE HE HE HE 

good evenin y'all  ngisayo-fun'umaskipite

Toxic
03 Oct 2007 09:12

we'll leave the investigations to Special Assignment or 3rd degree.

Love the article but don't have anything else to say cause of reasons Sponono mentioned.

andi01
03 Oct 2007 09:14

@dud-cum-2-jozi Hlubelihle, Radebe, mthimkhulu, ngelengele, ndlebentle zombini, Bhungane, Mashwabada owashabadi bhokwhe neempondo zayo, Mafuze fulele exelilifu lemvula, ngubani ke lo.
Mna i am guilty as charge ndiyachophisana (vat'nsit) since january last year, its the best experience ever especially for some1 like me who has no plans what so ever of getting married, with such a high divorce rate, my motto is if i'll neva get married I'd better act as if i am now.

KeleFabulous
03 Oct 2007 09:15

spopo....ROTFL

sponono
03 Oct 2007 09:20

dudu-come-to-j    you're getting dramtic now with email and occupations and all that...yuhhhh  its too late in the day to get hectic...as for mina I'm a kidder by nature  I wouldnt know vuyi from vuyo in this site  I'm just playin with you ..capiche!!!  

(and good for you to NOT kipti at yo age coz its a headache eventually..me I'm older than cellphones so its time for kipiting if i cant afford lobola by nou)

Kele remind me which article was that yesterday...the one about abortion or somethin

myname
03 Oct 2007 09:22

some other ppl they share bcoz mayb 1 of them lost the job so u dont have anybudy except ur gf/bf or omnye athi i wil stay just for weeks kanti its years and its not nice 2 fire some1 u know u share something special. mna im out bye guys

faraimagic
03 Oct 2007 09:23

well written!nice to read !!somebody once wrote this to me....DON'T SMOKE AND WRITE!

dudu-cum-2-jozi!!!
03 Oct 2007 09:25

point taken, sponono! sori about gettin all serious, i tend 2 go ott at times. And as 4 ukukipita, Im actually all 4 it. suprisingly! y must i get married if i cn get a guy who is gonna treat me just as well ( or badly) without half the stress

KeleFabulous
03 Oct 2007 09:26

that same one spopo!!

andi01
03 Oct 2007 09:28

@ Sponono LOL u older than cellphone, shame mna I am older than phones at large I think I am as old as the gramaphone.

sponono
03 Oct 2007 09:29

andio1....slow down with the zibongelo ...Radebe is HER BOSS  not yena u dudu-come-to j.....  her name is Vuyo...she was asking us to contact her BOSS  ROTLOL kodwake cha uyazazi lezizibongelo zika Radebe..maybe her boss woulda been pleased
<<my motto is if i'll neva get married I'd better act as if i am now>>....so we can even say you are married coz ou acting it..he he he eish you're too funny  lets hope the acting wont arouse the wanting-to-get-married feeling so much that you'll start pressuring u-brothers (which you girls do very sublty..e.g mentioning some married couples, showing some wedding photos ect)...

phew what a bloggin day

andi01
03 Oct 2007 09:37

(@ Sponono which you girls do very sublty..e.g mentioning some married couples, showing some wedding photos)  LOL, sounds like some1 is talking from experience.eish wena sponono uyandichaza kanjani, where do u stay.

spice
03 Oct 2007 09:45

Mina I dragged petrose to the altar gaad i have been with the clown for six years and I deserved or maybe qualified for the bling on me finger I tried all the tricks in the book to hint marriage but he still did not get it .
vat en sit is embarrasing esp when you have visitors over and they are like wow monna gago wa go rata he bought you a nice house how long have you been  saam BTW and you are like no we not married we just vat in sitting and then he goes and mary his home gal mmapula that sucks period

Jordan
03 Oct 2007 09:51

LMAO @ Spice! huu eh eh!

JabuSA
03 Oct 2007 09:56

I'm also guilty as charged. I was once in that situation, I had no choice then. I wouldn't encourage anyone who has a choice.

sponono
03 Oct 2007 10:09

andi01 I'm a durbanite  and I AM talkin from some SORT of experience  I told yah I'm ancient agewise

JabuSa...I wonder what you mean "I had no coice"  you mean you had to kipita it or else...???  tell us maybe we'll also be trapped one day so we must prepare ngekewazi mfethu (angifuni'kuzthola sengikipitile ngingathandi...tell us LOL
(i hope its not some sensitive ish you'd have to forgive me in that case)..

Toodecent
04 Oct 2007 02:02

Bathong gape lo re ruteng....so if your gal moves in le wena at your place nje just to share it le yona still ke vat en sit? I mean I dont do it but a lot are sharing places like varsity or even when they are working.

Dimago
04 Oct 2007 04:20

TDC if she comes back every night to your place, her clothes are in your wardrobe, her panties are hanging in the towel rail in the bathroom, she cooks (even calls during the day to ask what you want to eat for supper), washes your clothes, cleans the house - i'd say that is vat n sit

Segololo
04 Oct 2007 05:18

I have an "widowed" aunt who stayed with her partner for over 30 years. He passed away sometime this year.

They were together since she was 17, they lived together - never wanted to marry, kinda like Oprah and Stedman. 

They were happy in their union and did not care who said anything about it, they were clear that they will not marry each other.

Like I said previously, I do not have anything against marriage but the expectations of people about marriage I have a problem with. Vat and Sit - I'm all for it!

Foxy gal
04 Oct 2007 05:27

<<well written!nice to read !!somebody once wrote this to me....DON'T SMOKE AND WRITE!>> was that u faraimagic who wrote that article / was it Luvbug... I'm asking nje!!!!

Tshepo2008
19 Aug 2008 03:45

Living in sin? Cohabitation without getting married? This is indeed leaving in sin.

If people really love each other then what stops them from getting married? It appears to me that there is no love at all in this perverted union of vat-en-sit, instead the lust rules in vat-en-sit. I am also doing vat-en-sit hoping to get married some day but if my partner is adamant that she does not want to marry, then I will exit this relationship without looking back. I am currently doing 4 months vat-en-sit.

So my advise to all new cohabitors would be not to spend more than a year in this union. We do not want to live the rest of our lives in this union. If we really love our partners we must marry them legally. The Bible defines the true marriage.

monchooza
19 Aug 2008 03:55

tshepo  not all of us here are Christians so dont say its a sin...isho ukuthi its a seen if you are a christian.

Tshepo2008
19 Aug 2008 05:08

I am not the one who says that. God says so.

cleve
19 Aug 2008 05:52

I did it before I got married, it just happened. I wasn't studying and my man was staying in pTA. I needed a job so he was helping me. Anyways I just stayed longer and longer.

Tshepo2008
19 Aug 2008 09:27

People if you really love your partners and if your partners really love you, then you should really consider to get married. You really need to committ to each other. Vat-en-sit is not the way to express love.


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