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The Grey in Rape

Written by madomado from the blog Blue Couch on 31 Jan 2008
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OK, pay day was only yesterday, so i only managed to get my Cosmo yesterday, only. There was this article about "Grey Rape" and I thought.... its quite disturbing and its a sad reality that I've also been through. My load was being shed so I read under candle light.

They had three scenarios;

The one scenario. This girl had been at a club where her favorite DJ was playing. Next thing he was making eyes at her and afterwards, he approached her and told her she'll take her home. Excited, she said bye to her friends and went with this dude. Next thing the guy drove to his place and said he wanted her to listen to his music that’s not released yet. Ok, they listen to the music, danced, had a few more drinks and started kissing. She felt his hand go under dress, his fingers go into her and finally, he penetrated her. He acted normal and even dropped her at her home afterwards, and gave her the CD. But she felt used and belittled.

The other scenario. I laughed at this one – for real. This girl had just broken up with her boyfriend. The friend’s best friend brought his shoulder over to her house. They talked and talked and still talked till she fell asleep. Only to be woken up by a thick dick entering her. Gaawwd!! 




My scenario. Ok, As virgin as I was, four years ago, I was kissing with my three week boyfriend in his room at res. He knew very well how I felt about sex had talked about it, that I’m only gonna have it on my 21st birthday, which was seven months ahead. And he’d joke that hopefully it’d be him.
The kissing went on & I stopped him. I told him I wasn’t ready and he still went on. The more I said NO the more he pressed on. He entered me. He was so hard and I was so dry. When he was done, I took my stuff and went to my room, showered and sobbed myself to sleep. This destroyed me big time. I felt dirty, used, and I hated myself. I never reported it but I took the morning after pill.

So, the point here, is… Is there a grey area when it comes to rape? In South African law, rape is defined as "intentional unlawful sexual intercourse with a woman without her consent." That is why it’s always so difficult to prove date rape in court – example – the kanga issue.
It’s even worse in a society where guys are made to believe that when a woman says no she means yes.

I will say this again. I’m not a feminist – I am a firm believer in girl-pride. When someone claims to love you, he should go to all extremes to treat you like a princess. Boys do the chasing, we don’t. They are supposed to beg. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. If someone doesn’t respect you enough to listen to you, he might as well kiss his ankles.

My millennium questions: 

What is this, consent?
Guys, how do you know that the girl is *acting hard to get*?
What is most important after sex? The feel-good hormone or the sense of belonging?





76 Comments

madomado
31 Jan 2008 03:15

Lets talk..

Toodecent
31 Jan 2008 03:24

What is most important after sex?>>>> Sense of belonging, the affection still being there...weitse keng lemme shut up and concentrate on work otherwise nka se loke.

faraimagic
31 Jan 2008 03:41

its all about how you feel dont you think?...

KeleFabulous
31 Jan 2008 03:46

I am a firm believer in girl-pride. When someone claims to love you, he should go to all extremes to treat you like a princess. Boys do the chasing, we don’t. They are supposed to beg. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. If someone doesn’t respect you enough to listen to you, he might as well kiss his ankles

mado u r my new best friend!!!

What is this, consent?  this area seems to be greyed out too...
Guys, how do you know that the girl is *acting hard to get*?  skip
What is most important after sex? The feel-good hormone or the sense of belonging? both.the feeling u get, esp when that person is lying next to you, is sometimes even better than the sexual act itselt.

interesting topic i must say. i'm one of those people that don't play these hard to get games. if i like u i'll let u know straight up. mara i'm also a tease. i enjoy it. however i do send out a vibe if i tease knowing i'll let whatever happens happen and i do bring it across if it's just teasing, if nothing will come out of it. yeah yeah go ahead and say i'm confusing a brother. i DON'T see it that way at all. in the moments of pleasure when i say NO i mean NO and when i say YES i mean YES.


MADO i can't believe u laughed at the 2nd scenario. yho! imagine waking up and that's happening to you...hectic. 

u's a strong one for letting your experience out there. big ups!

madomado
31 Jan 2008 03:48

@kele MADO i can't believe u laughed at the 2nd scenario. yho! imagine waking up and that's happening to you...hectic. 

Girlfriend, i'm trying to picture the whole thing. gawwdd.. i can imagine the guy's eyes. I bet you he smiled.

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 03:57

WOW Mado, u are the prefect distraction to all the deadliines I need to meet today at work, nice one!!!!

madomado
31 Jan 2008 03:59

@Nonny - Awu, bathong Nonny.. now u call me a 'distraction' shlobo sam. 


But im sure you dont mean it in a bad way.

sponono
31 Jan 2008 04:09

mado..YOUR scenario happenes a lot and I feel your pain cause some of us guys neva listen to the no's especially afta a lot of tounging and carressing and when we are alone, the homornes start raging  and we hope that she wont take it further and cry rape..or we try to treat you good aftawards to make you feel betta  (basically abanye abafana bayakurobha just to get that thing  (aka Lauren Hill)...some guys resist the consciense that tells them to stop..because they think...eish if ngilahlile ngangamrobha uzotholwa omunye...eh eh ngizomsofta later......vele ngiyamncanywa...its ussually more to do with male pride than ranging hormones that lead to YOUR scenario to happen...and I've been that nearly done that......so 

OTHERWISE...(this is gonna sound harsh ladies forgive me)
Scenario number ONE...well sista-girl got fucked real good and she saw itcoming thats all i gotta say...how you gonna go to DJ Nton Nton's house .alone...he aint yo frined..you kow what you MIGHT get there  hawu!!!!

Scenario...two..you're a girl who's vulnarable because of a recent breakup  and you bring a stranger---(ok maybe not ) but a MALE who is aware of your story...and you FALL ASLEEP.....of course you might wake up with one dick up in you..(LOL the brother brought his shoulder AND his dick  hi hi hi hi....not that its right...
BUT as a female  dont put yourself in a vulnarable surrounding......I'll be damned if feminism encourages woman to expose themselves to these situation with the hope that feminists have worked enough to get read of scumbags and predatory males.....just like there are hoes and Jezebels..amongst decent females, there'll be gangsters and roughnecks  amongst decent guys..you just gotta accpet that and protect yourself ..Males also have to protect themslves sometimes

DID y'all read the story in Sowetan  of the guy who was raped by these two women till his dick got sore...hi hi hi ...go figure

I probably sound Like a chauvinist...but its reality bites 

azHOT
31 Jan 2008 04:12

the grey issue as women we are often to blame on the issue of consent. if its NO it should be said firmly and clearly-don't say no with a childs giggle, don't say know and continue smooching and arousing the guy!!! i know what date rape can do to one especially since you volunteerd and went away with the guy etc. and if there's alcohol involved its even worse to determine if there really was consent.

we need to establish a place where NO means and sounds like a NO!!

sponono
31 Jan 2008 04:14

MADO can imagine the guy's eyes. I bet you he smiled....LOL

of  course he smiled and probably said...ima ima kancane seliphakathi  ngizoqeda manje...(hour later..she'd been royaly shagged)

azHOT
31 Jan 2008 04:14

sponono
31 Jan 2008 04:17

azHOT...TURE DAT TRUE DAT...I know someone who says she looves the part where she makes that delayed nooo sound while enjoying the necking session yet hoping it doentt  go further.......instead of just stopping everything ..

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 04:24

"ima ima kancane seliphakathi ngizoqeda manje" - LMAO, Sponono, I am busy saying it aloud and imagining the poor girls facial expression!!!!

Best-Achiever
31 Jan 2008 04:31

Well written and interesting .... im also a firm believer of girl-pride, especial virginity part, that's where all my strength lies so if you wana beat me, take it away then i'll be prideless until tthen you have to bear with my pride!!!!

Here are my 2 stories
1.
I didnt date anyone until i was in my matric(well i did promise myself hore i wont date until i finish school). Then it happened in August that year that on my way to the school tape i saw these 2 guys and one of them stole my heart right there and then, i just loved him, the next day he came to me and told me that he loves me, i was so skeptical about it bcos i thought maybe he saw thru my eyes that i had something for him. He was in grade 10 and i was in grade 12, he explained his story and itold him mine, we debated until i surrendered. We hit  if off, well at the beginning i made it clear that i wont allow anything beyond kiss, that was my story and he had to decide whether he's gonna stick to it or lem me go, he agreed. I left school on the following year to further my studies, everytime when i go home i'll hear stories about him cheating, he always denied it. he finished his matric and went to find the job in the nearby(my school) town. in one of the gud days, i went to see him, he tried to force me to sleep with him saying that im old enough and i finished my school and about to finish my degree, i exlained clearly to him that respecting my body has no due date that is earlier than my wedding day, he did respect that while we were siting cozily there, his friend came and tell him his galfriend was on the door, he didnt realise i was there  and it was a school-gal wearing a uniform, he tried to explain that it is bacause i dont wanna leep with him so he thought he cud do it somewhere else, i called-it off there and then. One thing i was so proud of is that i still had my Pride, he still cry over that.

2. If anyone forced himself on you that's rape, end of story whethere you are ina relationship or not.

myname
31 Jan 2008 04:33

whow madomado

lilmama
31 Jan 2008 04:39

LMAO, you guys are crazy....

andi01
31 Jan 2008 04:43

sometimes I feel as though some girls use sex to be loved, which sucks,if a person doenst love u u can shag him 50 times a day (damn i still envy that lion), that wont make them lov u. Take this story for a example, a girl i knew was attracted to this guy, so she told him, the guy told him I like u as a person but I have a girlfriend and I luv her. So the girl didnt stop, she would sms this guy and when she is drunk seduce this guy. The guy finally gave in and shagged him 1 night. The next morning the guy went to her and apologised bcoz said he doesnt want a relationship coz he is in a loving one. The girl started cursing the guy, swearing at him and calling him names. She said that he used her and now he is throwing her away like an oily rag, and she came to me crying telling me this. My words were, "you play with fire, you get burnt, if someone is not meant for you stop forcing urself into them, bcoz the guy didnt love you you were looking for a reason to hate him, now you have so what more do you want, hate him as much as you want, but remember that poor guy doesnt deserve that". And she thought I was being harsh.

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 04:50

DID y'all read the story in Sowetan of the guy who was raped by these two women till his dick got sore...hi hi hi ...go figure - yes I read this story Sponza and personally I feel asingazodla abantu bathi ba dlwenguliwe kanti uhlabanile kwaze kwabuhlungu ipipi. Umuntu wesilisa will not have sex if his mind is not into it (ALIVUKI IPIPI) worse he claims all this was at gun point. SUKA NIZODLALA LABAFANA BANGASENHLA AKASHO YENA UKUTHI UXAKWE AMANTOMBAZANE HHAYI UKUTHI AMDLWENGULILE

Lekese
31 Jan 2008 04:52

Mado, i take my hat off to you. This week belongs to you wrt gr8 articles. here's my take on things

Snenario 1: The gal got what she wanted sistah....she did not know this dude, if she did not want to be shagged she should neva had gone to his place (or if she genuinely believed the story about listening to music, when things advanced and she did not like that she should have said NO). i notice you do not say she felt she was raped but just used and dirty, perhaps she expected the guy to whisper sweet little nothings to her afterwards but still that does not make it rape.

Scenario 2 : Ok i beta confess, am having a hard time concentrating on this one. But i guess whether it was rape or not depends on whether the best friend ever try hitting on her b4? Bcos if he did, then sista gal you were stupid!!

Scenario 3 : hayi Moda this is rape........should have reported the man. After all you had said NO.  A male friend of mine did that once to a gal he met on a trip out of town. he came back and was feelingthat he was the man bcos he had done to her what no-one had been able to do, should havde heard us gals tearing him apart!!

sponono
31 Jan 2008 05:00

LOL...nonny...thats not fair..the pipi is an unpredictable organ...sometimes the trauma can be quite arousing..(i'm serious)  yes you'd expect it NOT to rise to the occassion..so to speak..but it happens and I dont think one would go as afar as embarrassing himself like that saying he  was raped...eh eh..and this is not the first story...(the other ones raped this ou and aftawards said Welcome to the world of aids)..havent you heared of izintandane gangsters in Umlazi who used to force young guys to rape their own mothers..even there you'd excpect the pipi NOT to rise angithi.....

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 05:14

Sponono, it's ok u are just standing up for ur fellow brother, but deep down u know that it doesn't make sense, I would understand if ipipi livuke kanye, but now livuke KANINGI, so much so that lize lavuvukala waphuthunyiswa esibhedlela...................heheehe.........imbokodo yanamhlanje, hayi shem it's 50/50 YONKE INDAWO kwangempela manje..........uthi wawazi ukuthi uyoke udlenglwe umuntu wesimame.......LOL
Neway ngiyazazi izitandane zase Mlazi, all this heartache that they are causing will soon catch up with them, phela sithi isZulu: "Alikho iqili elazikhotha emhlane!!!!"

Feza
31 Jan 2008 05:21

WOW If I would have read this first, i would not have not posted my Movie Preview blog -- Game Plan -- just now. 

I think i was once in a similar situation, i think about 3 years ago. I was sharing a town house with my friend who is a model (wont mention her name), in Sandton, and we liked going to parties a lot. This one time we went out to these guys' house and we had drinks and fun and it was time to sleep. i was shown my room and my friend would share the room with her man, they wer a couple and vele we had planned to sleep over that night.

I went to my room, turned the light off and slept, I was drunk, ok. this moron came into the bed and joined me. iyo haaai. he lay there quietly and i fell asleep the next thing i knew he was on top and inside of me. 

Strange thing is, i could not scream. In the morning i went to my maat's room and told them and they called this guy, he said I agreed to it. Liar!!!!

He offered to give me money and begged me not to call thr police. I didnt take his money and I also didnt call the police, i just though girl you were drunk and they are gonna ask you if you fought him and screamed. I rested my case.

my chomi urged me to report it but i just wanted to forget about it. she had been through rape in her life and councelled me through that time and in no time i was ok and forgot about it. In fact i have never though about it until today, i'm not in denial i'm just a realist and I'm not gonna dwell into situations and let them control my life. I'm cool and that ass pit didnt take a thing from me, I'm still as complete and gorgeous as ever, Still Fezam, the girl with her own style.

sponono
31 Jan 2008 05:22

Nonny...mhlawumpe..ubrothers uthe ngifuna ukubakhipha inkani njengoba bengisukela. ngibe ngizichathela mina..mnx..or bamudlise something-eyenze lingawi for hours-ikhemi istrong la emnyango ...there is such a thing you know..otherwise..he wont be wanting the shenaynay for months  hi hi hi

Feza
31 Jan 2008 05:23

Shuga girl, next time when I'm a celebrity and famous, please dont use this when you interview me...too personal.

spice
31 Jan 2008 05:26

my first experience was also involuntary I was inlove with him , he kept threatening me saying he would leave me  if ke sa mo fe,I finally gave up shuuu  it was so awful his thingie felt like a metal instrument , I felt sick for a whole week thought i was pregnant , but looking back the guy raped me he really did ya'll I was traumatised by the experience i had nitemares  and hallucinations long after the incident and sumtimes i would pass or run into sumone who used the same scent as him  and then i would feel sick in stomach and sumtimes i would even throw up so yeah it was definetely rape

Renegade
31 Jan 2008 05:28

First of all, I have to say, i'm a big romantic, so I'm with Kele and everyone else who agrees with this:

I am a firm believer in girl-pride. When someone claims to love you, he should go to all extremes to treat you like a princess. Boys do the chasing, we don’t. They are supposed to beg. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. If someone doesn’t respect you enough to listen to you, he might as well kiss his ankles
Its just a pity that I dont think stuff like that happens a lot anymore, guys like that are few and far between i think, or mabye i'm just unlucky like that.
 

Anyway, like Sponono said, your scenario happens a lot, infact, i know quite a few girls whose first times were like that, and basically, there are two types:

1. Those who wanted the sex, but said no coz they thought they'd be seen as easy if they said yes from the onset.
2. Those who genuinely did not want it, but were mistaken for no.1 above. 

So i guess the grey lies there in distinguishing between those two, which is where what AzHot is saying comes in, if you really dont want it, u shoulnt be all giggly about it, really now. 
I think these things are more of an issue at younger ages though, around high school, because mina I cant imagine someone my age being like that. I imagine girls my age are assertive when it comes to the sexual needs, and if they dont want it, they say so , and they say so firmly. 
Also, decent guys my age, they know what NO is. . 
BUT, having said that, I know there are special cases, girls who make the rest of us look bad, and guys who make other guys look horrible. 

As for the most important thing after sex...well, mina I think its both. There was a point when i was younger when I thought sex was a "guy" thing, and you were just there nje, and it was meant to hurt. But now i'm older and wiser, and i want me some good loving, but also, i want a sense of belonging. So, before, during, and after, i need to feel good, at all those times, both physically and emotionally. 

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 05:42

"i'm not in denial i'm just a realist and I'm not gonna dwell into situations and let them control my life. I'm cool and that ass pit didnt take a thing from me, I'm still as complete and gorgeous as ever, Still Fezam, the girl with her own style." - That's the spirit Feza galfriend, ua are a complete person and no-one takes anything from u, except urself!!!

"ubrothers uthe ngifuna ukubakhipha inkani njengoba bengisukela. ngibe ngizichathela mina..mnx.." - @ Sponono hihihi.........and vele mhlampe ilegenge ecatha ngolwandle..............LOL............hope he learnt his lesson and organised himself a lift club ASAP, vele hiking has always been a risky thing to do!!!!

madomado
31 Jan 2008 06:07

Someone please help.

I'm trying to update my profile and liven up my Right Hand Side. If anyone knows how to do that, please move along to my GB & give me a rundown of it all I've tried the 'change blog settings' route and i really cant figure out what is what.

sponono
31 Jan 2008 06:14

Feza >>he lay there quietly and i fell asleep   and you just allowed him to sleep  knowing that you are drunk...and you expected him to sleep like a baby next to your HOT self...ha !!!..I dont mean to be insensitive but still ...at least you did accept half the blame unlike some girls who always cry victim....in fact these things happen a lot wheneva these booze around and some guys fail to listen to their consciense and start thinking of their friends who'll ask hey you slept on the same bed the whole night and did nothing!!!!!   thats the sad thing about most guys...and I've seen these things happen a lot in flats and student residences..

here's some  tricks that smart bitches get up to..(and they are HELL to deal with ..I know been there..and it works for them..no matta how drunk they are
wheneva you go to aparty where you'll find yourself sleeping and drunk  wear the tightest jeans and NEVA EVA take them off even wen you go to sleep....a
nd secondly bring your girlfriend along to bed (major turn off for us if I only want you) when you going to sleep...dont only ask her when you're going to the ladies   thirdly..if a guy asks "nicely" if he can join you as long as you can speak and you DONT want no hanky panky....tell him to scoot its a ladies onyl sleeper...or if its his place...let him have the bed...(he'll try act like a gentleman and refuse to let you sleep -stiing)...(.if you are scared of the guy and you cant tell him anythingwell what are you doin there drunk anyways)
Lastly ..LOCK the DOOR if you can

otherwise....one shag neva killed anyone right..espesh when its done right..hi hi hi..just kidding just kidding



but I' can tell you came out strong and didnt see your self as avictim

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 06:29

"otherwise....one shag neva killed anyone right..espesh when its done right..hi hi hi..just kidding just kidding"...hehehe wena Sponza, bayokubamba kude!!!

sponono
31 Jan 2008 06:30

i forgot to answa these questions
Guys, how do you know that the girl is *acting hard to get*? .....VERY DIFFICULT espesh in a prty or with booze involved.....She betta SCREAM SCRATCH TWIST TURN BITE GRAB, DO SOMETHING NEGETIVELY WILD...then I'll get it.....LOL  otherwise girls can play with us...coz men are little boys at heart.  and ther's also that jungle fever within most guys where our sense of being hunters and that animalistic nature is easily provoked, without you meaning to....(that a load of nonsense  BUT TRUE.serias...you know when you are kissing passionatly and she keeps trying to push and you keep goin tryin to strip her  and somehow you thing she's SO INTO IT  ...eish I donno how to explain but it happens and you ladies know it  cause if it happens when you want to have sex you'll call it passion  .....
What is most important after sex? The feel-good hormone or the sense of belonging........
4 guys none of the above...whats important is to get my sleep  or my cigerette  or knowing that youre on the pill if we didnt condomise.or that you dont expect me to marry you because of this..LOL  just kidding y'all

seriously whats important is knowing that what we've just done was NOT about ONE of us  but we both wanted to and had fun  even if its on different levels...(the effects  the feel-good homorne is debatable  then  LOL)

Toodecent
31 Jan 2008 06:35

Sponono's response Edited. 4"SOME" guys none of the above

Thank You.

Toodecent
31 Jan 2008 06:37

By the way... wa rocka my outhi. Love your responses..!

MADENZA
31 Jan 2008 06:42

hi guys 
-all the Scenarios are rape but scenario#1 the girl is also to blame.
* my advice to ladies is that if you are in a relationship with a man and you dont want to have sex with him you must:
-never allow yourself to do the touch touch with him when you at an intimate place i.eBedroom, better keep your hands to yourself bcos what we guys feel during this moments is very tempting, and it sometimes give the thought that you want it you are afraid to say, so better be lovey-dovey outdoors not indoors.

sponono
31 Jan 2008 06:45

TDC  in the same line I did say "jusk kidding"    ....(unless it was hitting home Ha!!!!...should I asume your answer is "afta sex I'm thinking of who's gonna send some stupid reply on tvsa tommorrow so I can put them in their place....while the poor girl is dying for your after-sex-care......hi hi hi  JUST PLAYIN WITCHA MR MOD..JUST PLAYIN)

bany' abantu  bazenza juice benge'fruity...LOL

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 06:45

"whats important is to get my sleep or my cigerette or knowing that youre on the pill if we didnt condomise.or that you dont expect me to marry you because of this..LOL" - Hayi cha Sponza shame, buthi uhamba wedwa...........love the cigarette part phela uma ukhuluma ngentuthu ezamike lezo!!!!

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 06:51

"bany' abantu bazenza juice benge'fruity........LOL" @ Sponono - whether uyadlala noma awudlali engikwaziyo ukuthi iqiniso lelo olishoyo ngabantu abazenza juicy.......!!!!

Toodecent
31 Jan 2008 06:51

hi hi h hi hi Paje e tlo go khawata Sponono.

sponono
31 Jan 2008 06:53

BTW .....TDC..

have you eva tried to get-it on with a girl (after having hit it off b4.in a party .of course)whos wearing tight jeans/pants and you keep purazing and purazing and she acts like she's either asleep  or she's enjoying it  but doenst respond  and you start thinking she likes it...but wheneva you try to reach for the jeans YOH uzitanqazile umntwana   and she's probably thinking...ha !!! that is how far you can go my friend....eventually you give up and go back to the guys...and they ask ekse kwenzekani...you go .eish lomuntu nale-jean yakhe.....and they ask  why vele akafuni or what  eish (you cant explain)
...now THAT is ONE SMART BITCH

Toodecent
31 Jan 2008 06:59

Nope.

Toodecent
31 Jan 2008 07:02

BTW go easy on some words ne mfethu..?

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 07:04

"and they ask ekse kwenzekani...you go .eish lomuntu nale-jean yakhe.....and they ask why vele akafuni or what eish (you cant explain)
...now THAT is ONE SMART BITCH"..........
hehehe Sponza phela those are my kinda tactics, akuve kumnandi phela ukudla ngomuntu wesilisa if u get the chance!!!

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 07:06

TDC & Sponono, why sengathi nishaya imarketing nobabili, kancane kancane nithi by the way.............and then nibhuqane???

KeleFabulous
31 Jan 2008 07:11

this topic is taken very lightly i c. especially in a country like this where so many women are being raped daily. i'm really shocked and dissappointed by your response wena sponono and you nonny for taking what he's saying so lightly.

just so you remember, in case you've forgotten, RAPE IS NO JOKE!!

Miss Fabulous

tshepiso
31 Jan 2008 07:15

She betta SCREAM SCRATCH TWIST TURN BITE GRAB, DO SOMETHING NEGETIVELY WILD...then I'll get it

shuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tshd21
31 Jan 2008 07:24

I think that at the end of the day, we ladies have to take extra care of ourselves...especially where booze is concerned!

I was once ina situation where my gals and I went ouyt partying (we were still in tertiary). We went out with some guys...ne re le mafresha and did not know Pretoria very well....mistake no 1.

One guy had be dropped off when we came back from the party and he insisted on getting off with 1 of my gals....she did not want to but went because she was scared and drunk....we left with the other guys in the car...mistake  no 2.

O f course we gals could have stuck together and got off with her...but what could we have done...4 gals, drunk, unfamiliar with Pta...at 4am...

When we reached the campus...all we could do was cry...We did not sleep and were wondering if we should go to a police station...
But what were we going to say on arrival?...
We were drunk...
We did not know the guys or Pta very well... not even the place were she was forced off...mistake no 3...Looking back today, I think we should have taken our chances...

But we were releaved when at about 10am, she rocked up with a scar (still there today) on the right thigh because she fought the guy off...and was rescued buy his brother who dropped her off ko campus....

We learnt our lesson...




Kim Possible
31 Jan 2008 07:24

i'm really shocked and dissappointed by your response wena sponono and you nonny for taking what he's saying so lightly.


silent Blogger....shhhh

MADENZA
31 Jan 2008 07:33

Tshd i agree with you totally, when it comes to rape girls must be very carefull, dont just say know and not show by your actions.
- if you say NO never leave with somebody whom you suspect to his place always leave with your friends. if he uses man power on you then he is not man enough he deserve years behind bars, so you have to report the person no matter what.

KeleFabulous
31 Jan 2008 07:34

Tshidi i know what u mean...i was lucky!:

a coupla yrs back i was at a party doing what i like doing when i'm drunk hehehe - kissing. yhoo iilips zala mfana were dayum delicious! anyhoo i sound found himself in tge bacjseat if gus car and we were busy getting it on. a part of me (very drunk part of me) sensed where this was going and i started to resist but to no avail. all of a sudden his friend is in the driver's seat and he's drivng away saying we're going to pretoria. shoo i think it took me like two full minutes for those words to sink into my very drunk brain. i firmly said NO i'm not going anywhere with either one of them and by that time we had already gone 2/3 blocks. i was lucky the guy drove me back to the party. the brother neva called. i woulda felt like *bleep!* if i had indeed slept with him only to find that was all he was interested in.

sponono
31 Jan 2008 07:36

unganaki wena Nonny into zakhona

KeleFab....yehlis'umoya mntakama....I understand your point...its just that sometimes when you make light of something it takes away the sting (for a little while)   but if we keep on  feeling sorry and making someone feel like avictim you neva know they might be curling up behind their screens crying their hearts out....and to top it all I'm not gonna be on some male-bashing trip like some peeps..I know that rape is a crime committed by SOME men  and that SOME woman need to take responsibility...thats my reality  and it might be ddiffernt ot yours....and NO I'm NOT taking it lightly....I just cant sugar-coat my opinions so I at least try to lighten them instead of saying what I reaally think.(which you wont necessarily agree with  and thats fine....LOL  thats alll

sponono
31 Jan 2008 07:48

Tshd21 

You are SO GETING it....that's my point 

the fuunny thing is even us guys can actually REGRET...yes regret  having taken advantage of some drunk girl  because WE were also drunk at that time so we were inlfuencing each other....."asvaye bafethu nalezingane zingrand"...only the sober guy says eish bafethu nizibizela irape izihlalele......

so we also become victims of our own actions espesh when we have to be called to court..and all that...(BTW this is not about all men)

andi01
31 Jan 2008 07:49

MADENZA
31 Jan 2008 07:52

Its alright Andi my friend!!!

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 07:56

I am sorry to have dissapointed u Kele, it's just that I've been through allot in life and I've realised that it helps ME to look at the lighter side of things, and that doesn't mean that I am taking things lightly!!!!

Kim Possible
31 Jan 2008 08:02

@Nonny: washintsha uDLUDLA wabauDLADLA.....waze waSerious bo Buzum
it's just that I've been through allot in life - LOL

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 08:16

"washintsha uDLUDLA wabauDLADLA.....waze waSerious bo Buzum" - yazi wena noma sengifake izibuko zami, ngaqoka itwo piece nepentyhose yami lebizwa nge Kaizer sengiserious still wena ufuna ngihleka khona abantu balana bezoqubeka nokungithathakancane...........LOL

Honeypot
31 Jan 2008 08:31

Until u experience rape maybe you may sing a different tune, Because I can tell you it's one experience that will be with you for the rest of your life you might not think about it everyday but there will always be those things ezizokukhumbuza  the incident, like this topic!!!!!

TheLady
31 Jan 2008 08:33

Me  and my girls have this rule we came together we leave together-okufunayo uzokuthola ususober. We leave together unless kuyi bf yakho nje esiyaziyo otherwise we take you screaming and kicking uzoziyela kwakhe ekuseni.

mabhebheza
31 Jan 2008 08:34

silent blogger nyani ...some are sensetive readers and 4the sake of peace i shall read and rolll my eyes..and ay 2sum yeah watever dude /dudette

mabhebheza
31 Jan 2008 08:38

Oh Nonny i can imagine u in  a 2piece ne pentyhose dali yish dade usuyincuphile ntombi..wase waphatha nesi khwama sakho sakanokusho..lapho usuhambela phezulu ngamaqomoza zinyaweni....LOL..

Pooky
31 Jan 2008 08:41

i'm so sorry to everybody this has happend to...be strong gals

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 08:43

"Me and my girls have this rule we came together we leave together-okufunayo uzokuthola ususober. We leave together unless kuyi bf yakho nje esiyaziyo otherwise we take you screaming and kicking uzoziyela kwakhe ekuseni." - Thelady as of now u are my new best friend talk about girlpower man, I like ur idea, togetherness all the way!!!! This is the perfect rule, stick to it till the end of time ladies.

Wena mabhebheza................shhhhhhhh........lemme keep quiet I don't want to come in 2moro morning and log on to TVSA only to see *Welcome to TVSA to go live soon (08)* only to realise that I have banned once again...............LOL

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 08:45

"wase waphatha nesi khwama sakho sakanokusho..lapho usuhambela phezulu ngamaqomoza zinyaweni....LOL."...........hihihi Mabhebheza u know me too well!!!

faraimagic
31 Jan 2008 08:49

yho! wat kind of a man who forces his horny self on a women?......does the word musterbuting mean anything?ag shame....
to  those who have been thru this deeply sorry it happened to you!

and how does a man get to be raped by a women?come on guy for sex's sake you gotta have an eraction,unless he was thinking about doing the raping first?

belz
31 Jan 2008 08:50

Dayuuuuuuuum!!! i missed all this, hello peeps.

faraimagic
31 Jan 2008 08:52

eish english...wrong sp...masterbating i ment!

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 08:56

"come on guy for sex's sake you gotta have an eraction,unless he was thinking about doing the raping first?" - My thoughts exactly Fara and vele why did u and Belz only decided to join us so late????

faraimagic
31 Jan 2008 09:01

@nonny you know we gota pay the bills!....and wen is yo birthday? i have a frend who can get me the whole carton of DH...im thinking if sending it to you chomie yaka as a present!

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 09:08

"i have a frend who can get me the whole carton of DH...im thinking if sending it to you chomie yaka as a present!" - Fara what did u just say.........luckily I am not a liar so all I will say is my "real" birthday is too far WAY TOO FAR, but because I am so unique, everyday is my birthday, please organise me iDH soon, when I say soon I mean by the weekend...........I'll PM u my address and please don't post it coz it will get lost, courier it for same day delivery and email me the bill...........mchaaaaw I'm outta here and thank u in advance chomie yaka yevha????............LOL...........u ahve just made my day Fara!!!!

Nonny
31 Jan 2008 09:10

Bye all, twas good, sien jou more!!!

faraimagic
31 Jan 2008 09:17

eish!am not a smoker but nonny is gona change my mind...she loves her DH!wat else do you smoke?
bad influence!

faraimagic
01 Feb 2008 05:29

?

s.majola
26 Nov 2008 13:46

???wat se

s.majola
26 Nov 2008 13:46

???wat se

pamhdb
28 Nov 2008 10:41

Interesting. Even though I'm 10 months late. Hahahahaha

pamhdb
28 Nov 2008 10:41

Interesting. Even though I'm 10 months late. Hahahahaha


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