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When Is It ENOUGH??!!

Written by Segololo from the blog Oh Moments on 03 Jun 2008
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I need to help a great friend of mine and my Oprah advice ain’t working so I have no option but to ask you. The below story is all hearsay, all that my friend has confided in me. The situation is beyond desperate and she has tried all she can except the drastic move of shaking her family and children’s life.

My friend, le t me call her Suzan (she reminds me of the desperate housewife) and her husband, let me call him John have been together for some time. John is the oldest boy in his family and has 3 siblings. When John’s father passed away, the responsibility to ensure the money the father left will take care of the siblings fell on John’s head. The siblings are currently 30 (Bob), 29 (Rex) and 16 (Alice) years old. John and Suzan were already living together and she was preggies with their first child.

John was living and taking care of Bob, kinda like guiding him to self-reliance – ensuring that Bob can take care of himself. Rex, at this time was in university and came to start living with them. John and Suzan got married and the decision that Bob would take care of Rex going further was made. Bob insisted that he was not earning enough to take care of Rex and would need financial help to do so. I couldn’t understand as John had taken care of him without any assistance and a small salary without complaints. John’s new family responsibility already did not allow him to be forking out money to care for Bob and Rex as their father’s money was only sufficient to ensure that those in school can study until they get tertiary education.

Bob lived with Rex for 6 months and complained that he can’t afford to live with Rex anymore. John discussed this with Suzan and they agreed to help for a couple of months until Bob can sort himself out. Bob sorted himself out and started living with his girlfriend and quickly forgot the agreement. Rex from the onset started behaving badly and affected Suzan and John’s relationship. He wouldn’t help around the house, not even wash his own mess and basically is a slob. All he did was eat, sleep and lounge on the couch watching TV. Suzan had a number of heart-to-heart chats with him but each time it would get worse. Eventually it was 2 years living with Rex, she was pregnant again and frustrated with everyone. 

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During this time, the mother-in-law could not handle Alice and she was shipped over to live with John, Suzan and Rex. Alice arrived and was a model child but within a week had taken all of Rex’s bad habits and excelled at them. She failed dreadfully at school. Rex finished his degree and is said to be looking for a job. He wakes up at 8;30 to watch Generations repeat in the morning, then leaves around 12:00 and comes back around 21:00 to eat, watch TV and eventually go to bed after midnight. John has spoken to him and told him to get his act together and move out – which really resulted in more rebelling from both Alice and Rex. Suzan feels the biggest problem is disrespect and disregard.

Now, Suzan says that the only fights they have are centered around Rex, Alice and their behaviours. The age gap between her and Rex is also not helping as she is 2 months older than him. The cost of living is high and with their R3000 monthly grocery shopping, they may lose a lot of things they worked hard for. She devastatedly told me that until recently Rex’s toiletries were part of the grocery list, until she had a blow-up with John. The trend, now, she has seen is Alice brings her list of toiletries every month-end but certain items seem to be Rex’s. I have visited their home a number of times and I could see that Rex is clearly living in a hotel.

My advice has been not to force John to choose between his family and her because she will lose but her state of mind is really bad. She can’t take the strain anymore as she has had to give up a lot of things for the upkeep of John’s siblings. 

Bloggers, help me find a way to help my friend to make Rex aware that, at 29, he is a burden to his brother's marriage and needs to be out in the world living, taking care of himself, making his rules about his life and effing girls up in his own place NOT moonching or lynching off this young couple. 

Kindly also help me understand the psyche of a grown man who doesn’t seem to want a life that doesn’t include being in other people’s faces all the time like that.



14 Comments

Miss K
03 Jun 2008 07:59

I believe the power lies with John. He needs to sort his siblings issues out if he still values his marriage. I feel John is not being a man enough and he needs to stand up for his wife and their happiness. And they need to ship Alex to a boarding school or Res and support her from there. Suzan must just be strong coz no matter what they decide on she'll come across as the witch that stole their beloved brother. But that comes with being married!

Toxic
03 Jun 2008 08:40

During this time, the mother-in-law could not handle Alice and she was shipped over to live with John, Suzan and Rex.

who's this mother in law?? Still reading............

Toxic
03 Jun 2008 08:46

Shew, hectic man!!! Does this couple have a big yard? I suggest that John and Susan buy this Rex a zozo to live in cause clearly John doesn't have it in him to kick his sibling out of the marital home.

Then John must fend for himself. The longer he stays in that house, the more difficult it's going to be to kick him out. Susan must also start buying enough groceries for 4 people (her, john, her 1st kid and Alice) and John and Rex can share one meal from one plate. Maybe if John feels the pinch, he might want to do something abt it. Otherwise she must find out-whichever way she can-what foods Rex doesn't like and start cooking those more often.

Wimps don't  make great husbands nje..

Fluffy Head
03 Jun 2008 08:53

Eish both Rex and Alice are grown adults and they should stop stressing their brother...
My advice, John (the hubby) must kick them both out of his house. If they want to stress someone they must go to their father's house and live with their mother. She has all the martenal instincts to tolerate their behaviour. As for Susan, her hands are tight and really the more she tries to fight with the Rex and Alice the worst things will becomes. She must make life a living hell for John....He has to sort out his siblings.
And shame its no duty of Susan to fix up her in-lwas. The only person she has associations with is John and that is the person she must deal with

belz
03 Jun 2008 09:07

He wakes up at 8;30 to watch Generations repeat in the morning> LOL!!! ok eish shame on Suzzy. I think John is being very unfair, he MUST sort his siblings out, Rex must just be kicked out, acutally Suzy must tell her to get out of her house and go find a place of his own, he's a grown ass man and they shouldn't even feel guilty throwing him out. So Alex was thrown out by her mother?? 

Why would John expect his wife to keep someone who has been thrown out by here  own mother.  Sego, i think Suzy must sit down with John and tell him that this is getting out of hand and if John cannot sort it out can he please allow Suzy to handle, then she can chuck out that 29year old loser.

fikz
03 Jun 2008 09:25

I agree with with Fluffy Head John must kick them both out of his house. Alex  must jst go back to her mom and sort out the differences that they have. 

faraimagic
03 Jun 2008 09:32

Wow let me read this again!

Tshd21
03 Jun 2008 11:10

John must sit them grown ars*s down and  tell them that he is giving them exactly 3 months to move out of his house. He is the man of the house and since the situation is driving wifey up the wall, as their bra and  a responsible hubby, he needs to act like a man and kick them out. Tough love, they'll thank him one day...hopefully!
 
Deadline: 3 months to get a job that will pay rent for a room somewhere far from his house. They still have to get used to paying rent/electriciry/water/groceries  and in time...will advance to the luxuries of a flat/townhouse in a surburb somewhere. Baby steps people.....Start small...but do not remain small!!

sponono
03 Jun 2008 12:32

LOL  this sounds like a soapy.....interesting I'll be back tommorow with comments

leorr
03 Jun 2008 12:42

yea you are right

sweetie my baby
03 Jun 2008 12:59

madness  - its time to get a sensible family elder or two to talk to these freeloading freaks!! yerrrrrrrrrrrr, talk about spoiling your siblings home! people behave badly coz we allow them to - and this inclludes your friends husband and her mother-in-law. 

i'm a firm fan of toughlove, she needs to TURF THEM OUT!! and put her hubby on notice, she needs to be supported and appreciated. this makes me so mad! women put up with CRAP!

Dimago
04 Jun 2008 00:44

Suzzy should just throw Rex out!

Cnglemother
04 Jun 2008 01:30

I read this last nite it got me irritated as i can relate to what Suzie is goin tru,

Tshid21, i think 3 months is too much, its hell leaving with this kinda people and its not gonna get better and Rex is not gonna look for any job.I sponsored some relative from EC to come and look for a job in Jozi and what she did to me is beyond words.

 You become a stranger in your own house and you dread going home and tend to work late just to be out of their faces. Rex needs to hit the highway asap and the only person who can do it is Suzie coz John wont do it. Rex is gonna hate Suzie but its not gonna be the end of the world and yes family gatherings and funerals are going to be uncomfortable after this but its for her sanity as well. She will get rude sms's and call from Rex but with time it will be over.

 If even Suzie appears unconsiderate and rude in the process of chasing him away its fine. She can just tell Rex that "Its time you move out of my house and i cannot live with you anymore since you dont appreaciate anything my husband and I do for you, instead you rude and arrogant towards me, its my house and I pay the rent and food". 

We dont want Suzie developing ulcers and cancer over a useless grown ass man who does not want to do something productive with his life. 

Tough love is the best at times and it will give Rex a vuke-maqandeni (wake-up call).

zazalicious
04 Jun 2008 08:09

No no no Suzie must handle this whole thing herself because John is not helping at all.Suzie must tell Rex and Alice straight in their faces that  they must get the hell out of her house. sis this mother in law usile 
This whole drama is making me sick, that's Suzie's house, I wont buy groceries for a 29 year old man agah man nx...........


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