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For Better Or Worse (19 May 2009)

Written by TVSA Team from the blog 3rd Degree on 19 May 2009
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On 3rd Degree tonight:

Episode: For Better Or Worse
Broadcast date: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 at 21h30
Channel: e.tv and eNews Channel (on DStv channel 403)

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Chris

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Christine

At the age of five Chris Ehlers stood in his grandmother’s bathroom, with a butter knife in his hand. Sawing away with the blunt blade, he tried to cut off his penis until his grandmother rushed in to stop him. He looked her in the eyes and said, “It doesn’t belong.”

35 years later Chris became Christine through an expensive and complex surgery. But the cost of realising a lifelong dream would have devastating consequences.

Chris was taken on as a sales rep in September 2007 by an international steel company located in Johannesburg. Hired as a man, he made his sexual identity clear to his employers. When asked if he was gay, he replied that he was transgendered - born a man, he felt and thought like a woman.

In September 2008 Chris had sex reassignment surgery and after months of office infighting, Christine was dismissed for allegedly causing a disturbance. She claims it was because of her sexual identity.

In South Africa over 80 sex reassignments have been done in the past 15 years. 3rd Degree investigates gender discrimination and speaks to medical experts who explain this daunting procedure on Tuesday 19 May at 9.30PM.





47 Comments

pitch
19 May 2009 10:07

No comment!

TerryN
19 May 2009 13:49

Same here pitch

Msoe
19 May 2009 13:57

This sounds so Oprah!!!!

u4me
19 May 2009 13:58

ohh heaven i need a hug!!! what the !@##$%%^ is this, if you call this freedom, then i dont need it, nxa!

u4me
19 May 2009 14:02

Eve to Steve, John to Johan, Mercy to Percy and you to.......................i am afraid, very much afraid. I pity the next generation ,if we still gonna have one, our future is doomed, damnit!!

Katlegom
19 May 2009 14:05

this is really crazy, i dont really think these people are mentally normal.
how can you fight who you are?

myname
19 May 2009 14:11

Thixo'nofefe be with our kids. Amen!

Amza
19 May 2009 14:15

Hayikhona...

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 14:25

Bt Katlego, if Chris tried cutting of his penis at the innocent age of 5 then clearly this is REAL and not abt them changing who they are? Mistakes happen maan & some people are born with penises they shouldnt have.

Msoe
19 May 2009 14:27

BS, are you triying to say God makes mistakes????

Best-Achiever
19 May 2009 14:33

born a man, he felt and thought like a woman. 


how did he know, how woman think and feel?

zozoe
19 May 2009 14:42

Nkosi Jesu sala so u buya coz things in this world are comin from bad to worse Amen!  
   ok what is this?

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 14:43

Msoe: There's mos a scientific explanation abt how a child's sex is determined so I guess it's a matter of whether u believe that biological thingy OR u blv that kids come from Heaven.

funkyziemz
19 May 2009 14:46

BS: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have a proudly gay cousin who wants his thing off as well cuz the skinny jeans show his property!

Msoe
19 May 2009 14:54

BS im not into science more so because it says God does not exist.  Well I know how children are made but I also know that you wouldnt have a child if GOD didnt want you too. That is why we call kids GIFTS FROM GOD!

Dont get me wrong, I do bealive that there are gay people, bisexual people and so forth and I dont bealive they are evil or whateva names people who dont understand call them. My view has always been this, if God can create twins with joint heads, chicken with human feet, goats that drink beer than what can stop him from creating a man with woman hormones.

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 14:57

Funky, there's a difference: Gay is normal man who is attracted to other men bt Transveswhat-what is a woman trapped or born with a man's body. They think/feel and act like women. I dont reali know, i just think so. Your cuz is crazy though, doesnt he enjoy the fun his totolozi brings him? Lol

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 15:00

I also believe that joint heads etc are MISTAKES. God wouldnt want any of his kids to live like that. Its too hard.

Ms. Jay
19 May 2009 15:11

no comment - this is disgusting - there are some things I can tolerate and this is not one of them - if you get offended by my remarks too bad - this is the way I feel and am not going to apologize for it

Green.arrow
19 May 2009 17:18

biological thingy ....Transveswhat-what ...o a ntshegisha wa tseba BS....
Thixo'nofefe....what does this mean hle myname or anybody....need the education

on the show....i gots no comment...

@Msoe: im not into science more so because it says God does not exist...
........i recommnend u google Prof David Block...a brillinat scientist/astraunot sumnthing (BS its u) who "proves" the existenace of God thru his knowledge.....he expalins the big bang theory in a way that is for God rather than against...and several others who have shutterd the myth of evolution...im sold even from a scientifical basis that God is Alpha dn Omega...the Great I AM...

Cande
19 May 2009 21:34

..watching...

Cande
19 May 2009 21:39

A green g-string

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 21:54

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa @ Debra going to the company by fire by force tl tl tl tl tl

Paralyzer
19 May 2009 22:07

Shugs!!! Why didnt u sms me to remind me!! Sigh

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 22:10

403 NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Lindiwe is a MAN????? She looks 100% woman...damn, she's so HOT!!!!

Paralyzer
19 May 2009 22:10

Green g-string cande? Yor, this lindiwe, i thought it's a woman! I am gona be very careful who i 'grind with' at clubs!

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 22:11

She even tried to enter Miss SA kwa kwa kwa ...oohh...this gal/guy is hott!!!!!

Paralyzer
19 May 2009 22:11

Green g-string cande? Yor, this lindiwe, i thought it's a woman! I am gona be very careful who i 'grind with' at clubs!

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 22:12

Debra can come out now...was she a man?

Paralyzer
19 May 2009 22:12

Nah, shugs, that voice doesnt do it 4 me!

Paralyzer
19 May 2009 22:14

Kwa kwa kwa, doesnt she have kids!

Cande
19 May 2009 22:15

*triple sigh*, let the LSM 1's go sleep. goodnytini

Green.arrow
19 May 2009 22:15

Debra can come out now...was she a man?
..Shuga.(with a mother's voice)..hau...

was the show just an expose'??....bcos i ddnt see a conclusion...i still want more....
 

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 22:15

It's JUST a voice Piz, come one.

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 22:17

Sorry G.A... was just kidding about Ms P.

The Christine part is over coz the company wouldn't talk to Ms. Patta. I guess she'll revisit the issue after the court case.

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 22:19

Ooohhh Liesl, that scarf is blinding gal!

Brown Shuga
19 May 2009 22:21

Be in therapy for 2 years before you can have the surgery???? That's long.

Green.arrow
19 May 2009 22:22

... i hope so, i dont know,..but i believ that when things are exposed, there should be a conclussion or sumthing to that effect (whetherv good or bad)......and its not the first time i get that feeling ka 3rd degree and others like it....

a Hope the guy will be ok...whatever that means for him..(C its bcos they ddnt give us any idea)....

Morgaine
20 May 2009 08:40

All of you ! tsk tsk tsk your mothers taught you better manners than that im sure! I too am TRANSGENDERED meaning i was also born a female trapped in a male Body and i took steps to correct it. let me put this question to you! If you woke up one morning and you found that you are something you know you are not, would you not do everything possible to correct it ? we had to grow up in very hard circumstances and all you people can say is oh its wrong, oh its bad, oh its this, that and the other. come on people wake up WE ARE ALSO HUMAN BEINGS capable of loving, caring, emotional hurt, physcical hurt, etc Besides what makes you all so special that you think you are not flawed in some way?

Cande
20 May 2009 08:49

LOL!!! take a chill pill Morgaine, everyone is expressing their own opinions.

cleve
20 May 2009 12:33

Johan, there is always hope and cuff those who feel like they are better than you.

Smilo
20 May 2009 13:11

She even tried to enter Miss SA kwa kwa kwa ...oohh...this gal/guy is hott!!!!!  LOL but muhle ke...

maud
20 May 2009 13:23

@BS-that Cristine uyangidlula nge figure man ,iam so jelous. voice alibale,they need to find something to sort the voice is too hush and thick.

Morgaine
20 May 2009 14:59

@ Cande "everyone is expressing their own opinions" and hurting people who are the same as Christine and i... fair you have your own opinions but to make it sound like its the alpha and the omega of sins thats just harsh. @ Best-Achiever how did he know, how woman think and feel? when you were a boy did you play with boys or girls ? when you were a boy did you play with dolls or cars? when you were a boy did you play boys games or girls games? and you ask how SHE know?

calamity
20 May 2009 15:29

@ Jael,  this is a quote from Just Jinjer's song "What he means". 
with a little bit of ease and little bit of calm
acceptance is the key to all we know
what about a stir of compassion and
lenience?
what about some understanding?
what about some sympathy
?

st220m
26 Jul 2009 10:39

i wanted to know as a tg can i go to my local dr. to prescribe me hormone tabblets
and other medicine
and where in south africa can we go for surgery is there a hospital in pretoria

care2love
29 Sep 2009 14:45

people r homophobic out there...what they did 2 christine is wrong.
report em 2d CCMA. .

Abednigo
20 Jul 2010 14:19

Oh crumbs!!
She's not gonna try running the 800m is she??


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