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The cost of indebted president

Written by Authentic views from the blog Authentic views on 24 Nov 2009
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Zuma the indebted president is in power now is the time for all the comrades to come and claim their entitlement. During his election campaign he promised everyone everything and those in the front queue of his cabinet have already made claims of multimillion Rands from ministerial hand book of entitlement for luxurious cars, 1rst class flight seats, most expensive 5 star hotels etc…
The cabinet was extended to fit the size of debtors who have laboured tirelessly through townships and cities, through villages, in stadiums and halls to sell the JZ brand to citizens of this country paving his way to union buildings.

Labour unions welcome their man in power with their own toy toy trademark, claiming that now they an ear to listen as they shout their voices along our streets, throwing off the rubbish, grounding the building of stadiums downing tools and closing roads, turning the tune of his Mshini wami trademark to mali yam. They have already claimed their big casualty in Tito Mboweni’s exit as a Governor of Reserve Bank while clever Trevor managed to duck their calls for him to be stripped power so he can quite.
Recalling Mbeki’s appointed public servants & in public enterprises those who failed to navigate post-Polokwane political topography is undefined policy to ensure that all the comrades in queues get their chance to share the power trip they fought so hard for. 

Lots of eyebrows were raised when comrade Blade was spotted in the ministerial queue for his share in public service, many thought his role to keep Marxist ideas alive was fulltime but the Blade ignored even Carl Marx as he later drove through him in style of his counterparts who are driven in the latest German top of the range machines.
To make matters worse his deputy Jeremy Cronin was standing in deputy ministerial queue while the young communist was heading for a parliamentary seat than educating the next generation on Marxist ideology and Gwede Mantashe left communist quotas soon after he was deployed to Luthuli house. Thanks to Zuma there’s no more left, in fact the left views exists as an excuse to moan publicly when disgruntled or left out in ANC majority decisions and actions.

Shabir Shaik who was sentenced 15 years imprisonment for bribing Zuma and was later released under claims that he is nearer my God to thee is now waiting for presidential pardon to move on with his life, play golf with ease and not duck sneaky reporters who are not happy to see him alive and not wearing orange overall.
Even Vusi Mona can now wash the shame he suffered after breaking journalism code and divulge off record briefing which became Zuma’s weapon against Bulelani Ngcuka and the media.
The media is still on a guilt trip, after all the reports failed to prevent this man from governing this country, now they can’t scrutinize him like before charges against him were dropped after all some media houses are still carrying pending lawsuit for their attempts to tarnish his image.
Jacob Zuma chose to pay millions of Rands in settling scores or remove the man he regards as threats to his freedom, Vusi Pikoli. This happened shortly after Pikoli testified in Jackie Selebi’s trial and said that he wouldn’t have dropped charges against Zuma despite Mpshe’s given reasons for doing so. Talking of Mpshe it’s highly unlikely that he will get the job he has been acting at for the past two years, the whole Justice and Security cluster falls upon someone who emerges from KZN to ensure that JZ enjoys power trip without someone conspiring with DA on how to bring back the charges.

Vavi chose to distance himself from the throne saying he can’t wear many hats like his fellow comrades instead he doubled his salary increase to bridge the gap which has been opened by the move to cabinet.
Julius malema was told he has some grown up to do before being considered for cabinet post a move which resulted in him making a lot of noise from the sidelines. He is also angered by the fact that election campaigning ended and he can’t find anything to attack Helen Zille with so he has been attacking every white person labelling them racists. I think Julius is the worse racist, the Bible says in proverbs “as the man thinks so he is”, as he regards others as racist so he is.

As for the public who did all the work in voting, there’s nothing for them. We have been offered hotline to lay our complains to the president but I doubt he ever checks any complains from the hotline. Over the past two month since its launch he is yet to quote one single complain from a hotline caller
Those who were hoping for the better life for all start buying a CD or downloading a song titled “Waiting in vain” by Annie Lennox. Cause that’s what those waiting for service delivery are waiting for. As Jacob Zuma said it repeatedly that ANC will rule till Jesus come, he just doesn’t mention also that they won’t deliver till Jesus comes. The next round of food parcels will come before the dawn of the next elections.



109 Comments

Authentic views
24 Nov 2009 01:02

Please make your comments, I'll make time to respond. thank you!

GML
24 Nov 2009 08:00

Well said AV.

however, one could argue that it's sstill too early to see any results (delivery of services).

I guess food parcels were the closest thing to service delivery people will get.

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 08:03

How long has JZ been a president?

GML
24 Nov 2009 08:08

About 7 months BA Why?

Tholi
24 Nov 2009 08:08

WHAT IS YOUR POINT??????????????????

poshspice
24 Nov 2009 08:17

Racism- yes Malema is ussually offside and doesn't address issues 'intelligently' but there is truth in that racism is still very much alive in this country ask those who work in the private sector how young whites or whites in general,indians are favoured in the work place compared to the young black university graduates...how wihtes are paid double the salaries compared to what most blacks are getting in the private sector doing the same job....and you are told crap like 'your salary is between you and the company .... you are made to train a white person to manage you......

Malema sucks but I guess we need some lunatic out there like him who's gonna blurb out these things that we are all afraid to raise...

blueroze
24 Nov 2009 08:23

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sorry AV, do you work for 3rd degree or are you a journalist?

poshspice
24 Nov 2009 08:24

I think so far JZ is on the right track.......he won't be perfect  but I think-media vs JZ...JZ won and he is doing well.....let's give him a chance and support

 

nekzo
24 Nov 2009 08:27

I also agree with poshspice let's give JZ a chance he is on the right track

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 08:29

About 7 months BA Why?

I just wanted to know GML because in those 7 months we have already concuded that THERE WILL BE NO SERVICE DELIVERY beyond food parcels that were given before elections .. you i think that's a bit unfair, why cant we give him a fair chance ... even the baby that is born on 7 months is called premature ..this is also a premature conclussion.

you know before elections what we knew of him JZ was that he had several wives, was on trial for rape and corruption, and not much more.

when he took over asthe president we feared that he would reward his supporters with government jobs and all that .. but if you look at his cabinet you will see that he put people there on merit, people who can actual do the job.

Yes those ministers, used so much money for cars, but do we have to put a blame on Zuma? why cant we focus on the good that he did. Dont tell me you have seen any changes within the disasterous HA department, i mean even Cutting Edge praised that and that is because of ppl JZ put in power.

yes there are other things that are not yet in place ... but guys it has only been 7 months and within those 7 months we had ppl vandalizing gov property that will need to be re build, that will cost gov money hence other things wont be done as soon as there were gonna be done.... that's wasnt JZ's fault... some of those things were supposed to be done a long time ago, some should have been started already ... so pls guys, go easy on him

dajazzy
24 Nov 2009 08:30

@Blueroze, silent bloggers, like myself

GML
24 Nov 2009 08:35

Personally BA I think reward comes after hard work. Politicians have rewarded themselves with expensive things having done no work. Who pays for those expensive things they have rewarded themselves with?

Tholi
24 Nov 2009 08:37

Its been less than a year, but I have seen so much changes esp in the rural areas. HE REALLY IN ON THE RIGHT TRACK!

Vavi chose to distance himself from the throne saying he can’t wear many hats like his fellow comrades instead he doubled his salary increase to bridge the gap which has been opened by the move to cabinet. 

I still think Vavi's salary is too law. I thought the guy was earning atleast more than R100 000. but 40 sothing thousand rand is nothing for a person in his position.
he deserves more!

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 08:45

yes GMl, i know that but if your company says, lets says it is your first day at work ... they tell you that canteen food is free ... that's areard to their employees right, are you trying to tell me that you wont eat until you have completed a project?

i used mmy company car allowance to get me a car  a week after i joined a company and to me there is nothing wrong with that because those are the perks that comes with my salary, whether i have already completed a project or not but the reality is the company see fit that i deserve that because they have that faith in me that i'll do my job .... yes maybe they should have bought millions worthy cars but hey it happened. maybe next time gov will know that they need to restructure their  packages and put a limit less than a million on their cars.

Who pays for those expensive things they have rewarded themselves with? 
as your company pays for your expensive, perks that is, so is theirs .

Cody
24 Nov 2009 08:53

hai noo, this is unfair indeed, I agree with people who say this is a little pre-mature.... Lets not be quick to judge JZ because of his past, but then again, as humans we tend to expect the worst of people more especially if their past is not rosy....look at Thembi Seete, just because she hasn't been cutting it in the past, people automatically thought that her new song "free" was kak without giving it a fair chance....Lets talk about JZ's incompetence in the next coming years.... 

why are we not saying anything about him launching a call center or hotline number to improve service delivery?

Tholi
24 Nov 2009 08:57

Well said BA, and My President JZ increased their (Cabinet Ministers and others in Gov's high positions) salaries with only 7 percent istead of 8 percent. thats show how much he wants these guys to work hard to earn more.

One and Only
24 Nov 2009 09:05

Exhausted and overdone subject that's getting on everyone's nerves, especially mine to be precise.

When people voted for the ANC they knew what it was capable of delivering and not, the same people knew well about JZ, his cases, his wives, his lack of education and financial status et cetera but yet they voted.

Most Zimbabweans still believe that Mugabe will deliver and argue for him to be given more time and we are going the same route. If you are poor and have voted for the ANC don't complain you deserve whatever is coming to you if not worse.

Viva ANC viva! Viva.

One and Only
24 Nov 2009 09:09

Exhausted and overdone subject that's getting on everyone's nerves, especially mine to be precise.

When people voted for the ANC they knew what it was capable of delivering and not, the same people knew well about JZ, his cases, his wives, his lack of education and financial status et cetera but yet they voted.

Most Zimbabweans still believe that Mugabe will deliver and argue for him to be given more time and we are going the same route. If you are poor and have voted for the ANC don't complain you deserve whatever is coming to you if not worse.

Viva ANC viva! Viva.

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 09:13

We have been offered hotline to lay our complains to the president but I doubt he ever checks any complains from the hotline. Over the past two month since its launch he is yet to quote one single complain from a hotline caller 

AV ... if my mind serves me right ... and if you  have also been listening to the news r watching news .. you will remember that the first call to get through to the call centre was answers by JZ from a woman in EC, she was reporting some municipality im not sure if it is the same municipality where that manager was fired last week.

two weeks back ..JZ visited some police station after several calls were lodged from a location in Tembisa, ppl were reporting their disatisfaction with policeman around there that they dont do their job, when he came there, station commander wasnt there, he waited for him in his(station commander's office) he came after some time and he wasnt wearing a uniform, investigation or whatever it is called is currently in process concerning that.

 he also visited some municipality after it was reported that they are not doing their job there(cant remember whatarea is it), upon his arrival, the MM wasnt there, he was said to be home and JZ went to his home nd find him there ...

Mathaz
24 Nov 2009 09:14

makgotso
24 Nov 2009 09:32

Well said BA. Guys Rome was never built in one day,the improvement is there especially in the HA department,went there last week en l got da excellent service en there was no long waiting queue

realist
24 Nov 2009 09:35

Most Zimbabweans still believe that Mugabe will deliver and argue for him to be given more time and we are going the same route. If you are poor and have voted for the ANC don't complain you deserve whatever is coming to you if not worse.
This is Africa after all. Never learn from their mistakes. Base their decision on hope rather than on practicality. We have a government that is practically useless. All it does is talk talk talk and nothing ever gets done. Can anyone name any government institutions besides SARS that is performing to your expectations?

NP left Eskom in top shape and this government messed it up by not investing in infrastructure. NP left the health system that was working albeit on racial lines but it was working nonetheless, this government managed to destroy it in less than 15 years. As for the education system the less said the better.

dajazzy
24 Nov 2009 09:48

@Realist, so why don't we rather criticize constructively in terms of what needs to be done. We can start by giving solutions.

As for the fact that things were better under apartheid...i beg to differ, the inhumane conditions within which black people had to live in, and the fact that we were not recognized as human beings can never justify ur argument of things having been better.

the government cannot do everything for everyone.

One and Only
24 Nov 2009 09:57

As long as we still have people like Best Achiever who are lazy to think and always defending the useless government left, right and centre we are not going anywhere as a country.

These are the same people who easily forget where we coming from just because they are driving nice cars, have fancy jobs and are able to send their bastard kids to some fancy white schools while other parents are standing near robots in this weather begging for money!

We are suppose to get excellent service if not more in any government institutions it should not be used as a yardstick to measure performance because we pay for that service afterall.

If Edgars, Nedbank, Shoprite, Vodacom etc is giving you a bad service you are quick to say "ywe ywe I want to speak to the manager", cause a scene and promise to take your account to a competitor. Apply the same principle to government and you'll see the difference.

realist
24 Nov 2009 10:02

@Realist, so why don't we rather criticize constructively in terms of what needs to be done. We can start by giving solutions. 
Point taken.

Let me start with home affairs.
Employ competent instead of nepotism and favoritism. While at it, do not only employ blacks only but mix the races. Have you seen when it is only blacks in one department how lazy and noisy that department becomes. I say mix black, white and Indian and you will see results. That goes to the entire department.

Licensing department
Employ competent. Fire underperforming personnel. Again mix the races, that way you can limit the amount of skinniring and the noise levels.

Municipality
Remove all the deployees with competent graduate students. Again mix the races so that there is less talk and noise.

As for the fact that things were better under apartheid...i beg to differ, the inhumane conditions within which black people had to live in, and the fact that we were not recognized as human beings can never justify ur argument of things having been better.
Is there any difference now?

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 10:14

As long as we still have people like Best Achiever who are lazy to think and always defending the useless government left, right and centre we are not going anywhere as a country


saying im lazy to think is an insult to me, the fact that i pointed my own views which are different from yours doesnt make me lazy, if i was lzy i would have even thought of what i wrote down here ... we will never think and see the same way .. you decide to focus on the bad if not worse i decide to focus on the positive and give ppl a fair chance, JZ that is .... you dont have to insult me because of that. so dude go easy on insult, make your views heard and while at it dont insult me


Msoe
24 Nov 2009 10:17

My mouth is zipped!!!!!!!!!!!!!tl...tl...ltl...tl...tl

Cody
24 Nov 2009 10:17

BATHONG?? One and Only o nwele beer!! lol hai!

One and Only
24 Nov 2009 10:21

That's exactly the reaction I wanted to get from you, you are quick to point out that I'm insulting you and slow to realise that when done by the government.

You have decided to focus on the positive and gave JZ a fair chance now do the same for me as well, find the positive in me and give me a fair chance, hypocrite.

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 10:25

what positive is there with you one and only ... at least in gov i have seen that they improved in HA dept, what positive is there in you?

Nokia 5110
24 Nov 2009 10:25

LOL Yenayedwa

Msoe
24 Nov 2009 10:26

I wonder why politics bring the worst in people???????????

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 10:31

<<at least in gov i have seen that they improved in HA dept, >>what  exactly? the buildings? the service is tstill the worst! am still waiting for my Kids passport 4 months after applying and whenever I go there, I get such stinking attitudes!! my cousin isalso trying to renew her study permit and each time she goes, she gets different information and new documents requests... Nxa!

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 10:35

for the first time ever in my tenure of 4 years at TVSA/TashiTagg, I never thought the day would arrive when I, Segololo Madibuseng, would agree with one an only... and that day is here... I have to go celebrate! see you all later!

WOW! one and only... I salute you!

One and Only
24 Nov 2009 10:37

People are asking the same question about your so-called government! It took people's lives for HA not to improve but to give a standard service available to low class citizens.

I think Blacks have a problem with English, we tend to abuse and overuse other words like "improve"

The word positive also has a broad meaning for instance being hiv negative may mean something good or bad about my health.

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 10:37

Go to HA in Randburg- Malibongwe  Sego you'll see what im talking about, i lost my Id went to do it once more and i got it within 4 weeks compared to 3 months that it was before, you can also check HA in  Alexandra. obviously not all of them are in right order yet but SOME they are.

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 10:41

It has improved one and only because it is not the same as it was before ... yes that's my view.

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 10:42

Nxa! BA, those are the same crappy offices that I have been visiting for 4 months!!! yesses!!

Sslave
24 Nov 2009 10:43

I wonder why politics bring the worst in people???????????

Msoe I try very hard to stay away from politics. They are actually very close to home and I don't want to be insulted by people. Saying their kids are bastards is not necessary. Try seeing your dad for the 1st time after 15 years and trying to catch up for all those years. I guess we were bastards not because they ran away from us but because they wanted the change that we have today. It still pains me today to know that I never shared my teenage years with him while he was busy fighting for our freedom but when I see the transformation that we have today I'm gratefull and proud of him. Even today, I just cant go home expecting to spend sometime with him. They are still making sure that we sustain all that we have achieved.

I guess people like bo 1 & only can say what they say but the fact is that we are going forward and there is a huge change and we will make sure that we do not let our beloved country into the arms of the "enemy" which is apartheid.

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 10:46

the buildings have improved, BA... I agree... but the service still stinks!!! 

When my hubby went to fetch his ID, he got an sms to say it had arrived... he went there for about 3 weeks, everytime coming back sans id... after they told him the ID was not there, the sms was sent incorrectly! He finally blew a gasket after a month of the weekly trips - the guy called his supervisor, they checked AND FOUND the damn ID with a stamp on it - with the same date my hubby had gotten the sms... 

tjerrrr!!!! Choose another department, Tuuu! I ahev to manny issues with HA!

Green.arrow
24 Nov 2009 10:46

Politics certainly bring out the worst in me too Msoe....lol...i get i heart burn sometimes as a result coz the current state frastrates me more than it makes me happy.

I think the gov should be held accountable from day one....in the 1st 100 days,we should be given an indication of whats to come.....scrutiny should start immediatle after that if not earlier. We can applaud where something good has been done...but immediatly after we must point at something else for them to go deal with. They must be kept on their toes...no time for holidaying.
So i think we need more opinions like this one (as expressed in the article)....otherwise we are bordering dangeroulsy on apathy...re tla complaina 3 yrs down the line when its way too late.

JadaPinkett
24 Nov 2009 10:46

Eish ngaze nganqena ukufuna but at same time i want to replt on this topic

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 10:47

I am getting very emotional... eish! I feel heartburn and anger swelling up...

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 10:47

Nxa! BA, those are the same crappy offices that I have been visiting for 4 months!!! yesses!!

i went there got my ID within 4 weeks so it worked for me ... that is the same office i used in 2007 and waited for 3 months to get my doc ... so for it worked .... My sister went there too for her passport, she got in within 6 weeks

Tholi
24 Nov 2009 10:52

Where is Shim (Authentic views)? Posting a article and runaway...mnfcmm.
Remind me of  The Observer, I wonder where is Shim!

blueroze
24 Nov 2009 10:53

These are the same people who easily forget where we coming from just because they are driving nice cars, have fancy jobs and are able to send their bastard kids to some fancy white schools while other parents are standing near robots in this weather begging for money! 

who did you wrong mara yena yedwa?
o kwatetse lefatshe jaanong mos?
re shwela dilo tse re sa di tsebeng jwale mos

Tholi
24 Nov 2009 10:56

HERE is Something to cheer u all up!

fruity
24 Nov 2009 11:02

I can write a book about my horror stories at Home Affairs, actually make that 3 books but they will all have happy endings.....

One and Only
24 Nov 2009 11:06

Sslave in 15 yrs to come you will find Zimbabwean kids claiming to not have seen their fathers in a decade because they were in exile not knowing that they were here in SA loitering around Small Street.

The real heroes are those who stayed behind and faced the music not those who ran away to study for Masters and MBA's in the best schools there is in the world. 

If you apply for a loan at Nedbank and are taking long to approve it you leave them and apply for the same at Standard Bank etc.

Shopping stores are service driven in such a way that they now give you a card immediate, send it by mail or just send you an sms saying you qualify for such an amount because they know competition is tough.

The period that it takes Traffic Officers to issue a speed ticket should be equal to the speed they can issue an ID or provide other services.

Cody
24 Nov 2009 11:09

LMAO @ Tholi promoting her "buhwahahah, kwa kwa kwa" blog

cleve
24 Nov 2009 11:10

hhayi blogging silently................................ I hope

GoldenSta
24 Nov 2009 11:12

<< Sslave in 15 yrs to come you will find Zimbabwean kids claiming to not have seen their fathers in a decade because they were in exile not knowing that they were here in SA loitering around Small Street. >> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha yhoooooo that is a classic One and Only?

GML
24 Nov 2009 11:15

Question:

If it's still too early to judge and criticise the work of the current government, what/when is the correct time to do so? Is 5 years perhaps sufficient time? should we wait for 5 years?

How long should people wait?

Transformation takes time: Yes, but 15 years is more than enough time- my opinion

Sslave
24 Nov 2009 11:16

1 and Only... please do not perish because of lack of knowledge. You clearly have no clue of what you're talking about abuti and for that reason I shall not argue with you but would like to remind you that today you are free to make your voice heard because you are free. Please try and not take that for granted. If you had said bad things about the previous regime, you would be in a dark cold cell nursing your wounds with your own urine. Please be free and voice out your frustration regarding service delivery but don't insult other people.

blueroze
24 Nov 2009 11:17

I never thought the day would arrive when I, Segololo Madibuseng, would agree with one an only... 

WOW! one and only... I salute you!

Where is Shim (Authentic views)? Posting a article and runaway...mnfcmm.
me thinks ke yena yedwa

tjerrrr!!!! Choose another department, Tuuu! I ahev to manny issues with HA!


all i can say is tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl because i'm speechless

Tholi
24 Nov 2009 11:22

LMAO @ Cody, what else can i do!

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 11:29

If it's still too early to judge and criticise the work of the current government, what/when is the correct time to do so? Is 5 years perhaps sufficient time? should we wait for 5 years?

@GML ...  5 years to judge them will be too late because they will be matching out of the office ...   1 and half to two years, if you dont see ANY CHANGES, then i think it is fair you start questioning them, that's me there .... i have issues that i have addressed with certain people in Goverment powers and im hoping as per their promise that they will deliever and im giving them time to deliever that.

Last year i has issues with the Counselor(SP) in a certain area .. i wrote an article here, i got few people who wanted to help and they indeed help in different way and at the end we(together with them) achieved what we wanted to achieve ... so for me if i could judge everyone in there with the way the conselor handled that situation, it surely will be unfair, because the help that i get was also from Gov ppl who do their work .... and because of that, the Counselor was exposed and is under investigation, because many cases arised after that.

Transformation takes time: Yes, but 15 years is more than enough time- my opinion
 Yes GML i know and i totally agree with you but my point was about the current government/cabinet who has been there for only 7 months ... that is why i said some of the things should have been started  or even done a long time ago. Even for the previous gov, there are other things that they have done right and things that they didnt do .....

dajazzy
24 Nov 2009 11:29

The problem here is that as much as our government has got a lot of things to change, there are a lot of other things as well that have changed and bettered our lives.

In fact, its safe to say, the problem is with individuals who are tasked with implementing policies of government. take Blade for e.g. He is not in a position to advance the communists and socialists agenda because that is not necessarily the policy of government, its all about enriching oneself.

the people who are in charge of allocating houses, they sell them or give them to their friends and relatives, as opposed to deserving people. As for people who beg on the street, try and offer them a job as a helper or gardener and they insult you, because poor people want government to provide everything for them, and we the taxpayers end up having to look after them and their laziness.

There are a  lot of business opportunities available in SA, but the individuals in charge choose to give them to their cronies instead of well-deserving people.
The Home Affairs Department is in shambles, but there are still offices that give good service regardless as is evident with the replies given here.

the biggest problem that need to be tackled is corruption, but then the corrupt individuals tend to be treated with kid's gloves, the president needs to e tough on ccorrupt individuals within government, and the whole business of deploying people must come to an end and people must equally compete for the same jobs.

we still need AA and BEE, to deal with the imbalances of the past, the wealth of the country still resides in white hands. black people do not own jack, and its all about greed and lackm of education to know how to create wealth intead of consuming all the time. We are still not financially independent. Education is key.

There is also a need for strong opposition with the same ideologies that the current government has, if not better, so that there is a balance in terms of competition between parties who want to govern to provide better service for fear of losing votes, but as it is the DA and COPE are far from getting close to that.

Authentic views
24 Nov 2009 11:34

I haven't run away, your responses came quicker than I thought and hey I feel the heat, (ndawuphemba umlilo) so I want to respond authenticly to all. Thank you, keep them coming.

One and Only
24 Nov 2009 11:37

Sslave we all gonna perish when God calls us and because of lack of knowledge, had mankind have enough knowledge they would have a cure for AIDS and DEATH.

I am personally who I am today because my family took care of me not because your father & co (so-called amagqabi emfazo) could afford plane tickets to go to other countries and start businesses while sending you monthly allowance to get a better education!

Every weekend on SABC news you will see a funeral of a person as young as 20 and claims that he was a freedom fighter and went to Lusaka with Chris Hani then to Robben Island but the person was born in 1989.

I suggest that if you're working for a private company you try and provide a floppy services like the government depts and see if they will wait for 100 days/ 5yrs to show you the door.

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 11:39

@ blue: what made you speechless, love?

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 11:40

I am silently blogging cause OnO is representing my views.. Tell them! OnO, batjele!

Digging their heads in the sand because they rolling in shiny cars... hahahahahaha!

madleza
24 Nov 2009 11:48

b4 he came in the government he promised us jobs but unfortunately it was not for us it was for his friends 

we don't want him to feel pity for us we want him to deliver and fight corruption left and right e.g in previous days  news of corruption charges were hitting our air waves in some government department as a president we are appealing to him to say something but he does say something?? no he went to  the crown gospel award

he knows how bad home affairs department is but does he pushing her mazuma to restructure the department no instead he make a hot line where people are still going to cry about one thing home affairs 

does it need a blind man to see that he appointed moir shaik for south african inteligence just to say i am sorry to shabir shaik maybe in this situation is were we need  a strong voice like  of julius malema to intervene does he?? no but let nedbank pull out sponsoring asa 

the entry of saps is still matric and drivers licence and more and more of ilitterate police official we will have, who doesn't have skills for the job and outside our brothers and siters went to tertiary for the police course are they considering them no but someone will tell you how good deputy he is when he say the police has to shoot to kill

the south african youth are still struggling to get fund to futher up their studies but someone is rewarding him self a car worth millions of rand .it is rewarding?? or is oh yes finally i got the job finally 

caster semenya's freedom of privacy they preach everyday has been violated and on the other hand coaches see south africa as free gambling instead of talking to safa someone has to call mcathy to the national team

small things matters to our leaders than service dlivery   






 
 

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 11:50

True that dajazzy 

Another problem about houses is ... Sone of those pople who got houses from Gov, sold them, Yes they sold them or rent them out and go back to stay in shacks ... I know of a guy who wanted a site to build room-for-rent and a woman offered to sell him her house and stand ... the problem arose when the guy wanted the title deed changed from her name to his because they had to go via a consilor/title deed's office..... so ther where was she gonna go..back to shacks and when ppl cry and toy toy that they dont have houses, gov is not delievering she was also be gonna be amongst those!

we still need AA and BEE, to deal with the imbalances of the past, the wealth of the country still resides in white hands.
 You know dajazzy .. the problem with AA and BEE is that ppl who are favoured by that AA and BEE, those who are there, most of them are there just to balance the number in those companies, they are not equiped in their skills ... they are just sitting there and getting salaries at the end of the month ... SAD but true ... they 3 years down the line you find someone with 5 yrs experience but if you look at thing they have done it is sad ... was real suddened to sit in a interview with some ppl. Until one takes ownership of their own future .... we still have an ocean to cry

Tholi
24 Nov 2009 11:50

@ Authentic views, thanks. i thought u were gone! lol 

Vesa
24 Nov 2009 11:55

yes GMl, i know that but if your company says, lets says it is your first day at work ... they tell you that canteen food is free ... that's areard to their employees right, are you trying to tell me that you wont eat until you have completed a project?

i used mmy company car allowance to get me a car a week after i joined a company and to me there is nothing wrong with that because those are the perks that comes with my salary, whether i have already completed a project or not but the reality is the company see fit that i deserve that because they have that faith in me that i'll do my job .... yes maybe they should have bought millions worthy cars but hey it happened. maybe next time gov will know that they need to restructure their packages and put a limit less than a million on their cars.

Who pays for those expensive things they have rewarded themselves with?
as your company pays for your expensive, perks that is, so is theirs . 

BA......I'm glad there's someone who thinks like I do!!!! I've had countless debates around this issue.....and for some reason people have issues with ministers buying themselves expensive cars!!! This is a fringe benefit in their salary package....I would also use it!!!

Segololo
24 Nov 2009 11:59

I hope none of you and your loved ones ever have to experience public hospitals... whilst your ministers buy shiny cars for fringe benefit whilst the people that voted for them are packed on top of each other with no proper hospital facilities!!!

MsDee
24 Nov 2009 12:23

Vesa & BA i agree wit ya when it comes to benefits...its not the minister’s faults the gov must then review their packages...

But then again…..if I give my kids pap n vlies at night...good they ate supper but I don’t need applauses for that….and no one can say my kids went to bed hungry either but maybe the day I give them ribs & prawns yes please shout with applauses form the rooftop….

what I'm saying is Zuma is doing his job, fine he hasn’t done nothing out of the ordinary nor special so he doesn’t deserve applauses yet nor should we criticize him yet lets give him a year.

So in my words this argument is stale- Zuma is capable or not ....yet….. premature coz he hasn’t been in office for a year.

Authentic please rather discuss our so called Youth leaders…Malema verses Manamela… you have quite good insight…would like to hear your opinions. They’re losing the plot n to think they represents all of us ma bloggers…assuming we all kindda still under 35… it is 35…right????

This is not worth our time YET…


Mafresh
24 Nov 2009 12:24

Tjo Sego, I once went over a series of treatment ko hosi while i was in tertiary, guess what, I vowed never to set my foot, I mean MY FOOT there again. and that wa my motivation to harder at my studies.

And lets not forget that it is the ANC which has been in gov, irrespective of who changed office. Just because someone left the office, doesnt mean services can be suspended.

Maar le our community ba rata dilo tsa mahala man.

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 12:35

And lets not forget that it is the ANC which has been in gov, irrespective of who changed office. Just because someone left the office, doesnt mean services can be suspended

 Yes Mafresh if this was about the whole ANC, all the years that they have been in gov and nothing has been done, they Yes i'd agree.

but for now i agree with MsDee, because of the angle the article took.
So in my words this argument is stale- Zuma is capable or not ....yet….. premature coz he hasn’t been in office for a year.

GML
24 Nov 2009 12:35

Interesting view point Ms Dee.

Discussing Malema and Manamela would e a better topic to discuss.
However it does not mean that this debate is stale. There are 6 months left to MAY 2010. In my opinion 6 moths in office are under scrutiny at the moment.

So if you say we give him a year- he (the gov) better start delivering as the 1 year you ask for ends in 6months time.

AV- I suggest the topic raised by Ms Dee

MsDee
24 Nov 2009 12:46

@GML i thought about that 2....There are 6 months left to MAY 2010 but then again follow JZ track record...you'll understand...maybe just maybe he'll pull another Polokwane ... remember how he rang that race...lacking behind- rape charge...corruption case--- till few minutes before finishing time...and he rang like a slave and came out victorious...lol

Ava
24 Nov 2009 13:04

This is not worth our time YET…

I beg to differ ,as far as i'm concerned no matter how old you are if you have your views on a matter speak out just because we are in a certain age group does not mean we become blind to whatever wrong is being done by those who are 'older' than us.Remember just because some1 is older doesn't always mean they are wiser.

i dont agree with those who are saying that questioning JZ is "premature" .quite on the contrary.you should speak out as soon as you see any areas lacking.no grace period.So what ,they are allowed to hurry and make their claims on their 'fringe benefits' but we are supposed to wait ,be it a year or 15 years before we can voice our concerns?

just as their jobs come with the so called 'fringe benefits' ,their jobs also come with the scrutiny of the public eye.Floppy service is floppy service and pple have every right to question it as soon as they realise it's floppiness. They claimed their benefits as soon as they got into the office didn't they? so they better move with equal speed and act on the nation's quiries.Social equality.these guys need to be reminded that they are first and foremost representatives of the nation not of themselves.

I for one salute this article.Speak Out.otherwise you are just gonna end up with another Zimbabwe!

HARAMBE24
24 Nov 2009 13:12

I enjoyed reading this, classic

GML
24 Nov 2009 13:18

Well said Ava:

They were quick to claim benefits should be equally quick to deliver services....

Green.arrow
24 Nov 2009 13:35

am echoing u Ava...

Another thing,we are not talking of a new gov that is taking over from people they have no cennection with.....during campaigning they had a manifesto in which they stated what they will improve when "further" elected....soon after May it was supposed to be implementation time.
Its a pity our election campaigns are usually filled with lots of grey areas...rhetorics and no proper debate about their policies...

Av...i agree with the other guys...gooia something about the youth league..they give me a headache and the tvsa debates always broadens my view....thus reducing the headcahe/heartburn...xoxo 2 u guys all...:-)

Best-Achiever
24 Nov 2009 13:37

Ava .. Great put there ... 

My reason for saying this is a bit premature ... is because ... it has only been 7 months. I understand we need to speak out YES, but expecting that all thing will be done in 7 months well for me that will never happen, sadly it is the truth that we have to live with. Raise your concerns,  but to judge that this cabinet has failed us .... in 7 months ..for me that's overexpecting ...Some of the things that we as public need can never even take 7 months to be implemented and delivered to us.

Authentic views
24 Nov 2009 13:48

Thank you all for your responses thus far, I will sum up the burning issues.

My goal is not to pre-maturely discredit JZ and his cabinet which has only been in power for 7 months, we shouldn't wait for things to get worse before we express our views, our political leaders need lots of accountability for what they say, promises they make and how they conduct themselves because their actions are not only have an impact to us as the country but the world at large. A rotten apple can poison the whole box if not identified and put aside.

But my comments were more fuelled by the turn of events since JZ has taken the presidential palace.
Communists have come in large numbers to parliament, their leaders have taken cabinet posts and are indulging in luxurious acts of capitalists which prompt me to pose a question of whether they still stand for Marxist Ideology or they've the Communist brand as a bargaining tool to ANC or as a platform to stand when disgruntled by ANC majority decisions and actions?

The prominent rise of Communists in ANC have grown significantly under JZ. 

Zuma's political campaign to Presidency was marked by large promises, how much is he (with his cabinet) doing to fulfill those promises? not taliking about finished product yet.
Why did Zuma choose to offer Pikoli a R7,5 Million settlement instead of giving back his job?
Zuma is the president of the ANC and the Country, there has been too much rhetoric within ANC quotas for him to ignore, like Unions attacks on Manuel, BMF & ANCYL's attack on former Eskom chair, Bobby Godsell and lately Malema's attack on Jeremy Cronin? ANC repeatedly made an excuse that they speak with Malema in private, why they always speak in private when he always come speak up in public. It looks like Zuma has left Gwede Mantashe to do the dirty work in these matters.

Most parastatals are currently run by acting heads some for more than two years, should he not apply the pressure to the responsible ministers to speed up feeling those vacancies? There was a swift action in filling vacancies in Justice and Security cluster, Bheki Cele was appointed Mo Shaik was appointed and Justice Sandile Ngcobo, I bet you Pikoli's replacement will be annunced soon. Why not using the same technique for SABC, Transnet, SAA, Eskom has just join the queue but its too early to paint the same picture.
I will post an exclusive piece on my views about service delivery, so watch the space.
To Poschspice, I agree a lot need to be said on racism even that I will write about especially inequalities at workplace.
To Blueroze, I don't work for 3rd degree, I'm studying via correspondence to be a journalist but currently I work as a TV Promo Producer, I regard myself as Analytic and critical commentator.
I dropped a dose of humor in every sentence to neutralize the heat but looks like it didn't work.
Thank you once again for all your contributions, its difficult to keep up with end year deadlines but I'll keep on updating things.

realist
24 Nov 2009 13:51

the biggest problem that need to be tackled is corruption, but then the corrupt individuals tend to be treated with kid's gloves, the president needs to e tough on ccorrupt individuals within government
How the hell can he be tough whereas he himself run away from being charged? This African continent will never come right.

realist
24 Nov 2009 13:59

ANC repeatedly made an excuse that they speak with Malema in private, why they always speak in private when he always come speak up in public. It looks like Zuma has left Gwede Mantashe to do the dirty work in these matters.
There is an election coming in 2012 and those who occupy the top 6 positions in the anc are not guaranteed re-election. That is the reason why you see so many in the anc NEC are too scared to give Malema the riot act. Malema is campaigning for Fikile to be the sg of the anc come 2012.

GML
24 Nov 2009 14:06

Thank you realist.

How can he really? Discrepancies all over the show....

It's sad, really sad....
So many things and appointments into positions of power are so questionable it's not funny.

madleza
24 Nov 2009 14:16

wait, wait ....................where does 7,5million  come from ??? umshiniwam ring tones or from the t of the president himself or from us the tax payers or it was for the government to buy arv

madleza
24 Nov 2009 14:18

wait, wait where does 7,5million come from ??? umshiniwam ring tones or from the president himself or from us the tax payers or it was for the government to buy arv

Nokia 5110
24 Nov 2009 14:25

@ madleza LOL from ur tax  dear !!!!!!!!!!!

MsDee
24 Nov 2009 14:31

@Ava... anyone of any age does have a right to comment and have their opinion heard- you totally misread my comments.

To go on...Some things are logical….at some point in time we ought to stop criticizing and give leeway to see if the other party delivers then if not… by all means jump at it…constant criticism and complains can actually steal the importance or the heart of an issue…in any situation in life…demean an important issue. So while it’s within our rights to complain and its good to do so lets do so prudently. 

I stand by my words: this argument is stale- Zuma is capable or not ....yet….. premature coz he hasn’t been in office for a year

But also thank you for your clarification Authetic ....

I bet you Pikoli's replacement will be annunced soon. Why not using the same technique for SABC, Transnet, SAA, Eskom has just join the queue but its too early to paint the same picture. There I am with you He must be constinent...

blaqueboi
24 Nov 2009 14:44

Ok lemme first say this, with political debates its always abt what works for you. I just got my ID nd Passport replaced in less than 4 weeks. Could this have never happened during Mbheki's administration? One can never really say and does this mean JZ is a better pres cos I got a better service on this particular occasion?

For those who say yes, let me put this to you. During apartheid certain things worked, though many of us would not openly admit it. Growing up in Bophuthatswana, our civil servants were happy thus enabling them to deliver better services to the people. Our school system was run efficiently, the police always attended to calls promptly, our pensioners were treated with utmost respect.. etc. Life was good, for some of us. Now that does that mean I should say Mangope was the best. The man had flaws but his administration always made sure they dont take the whole pie but he also supported the apartheid regime because they gave him absolute power over his people.

Back to the present. I wont mention Mandela's government cos that was just a euphoric period in SA. Since Mbeki and now JZ there has bn some turmoil and disarray, much of which was a legacy inherited frm apartheid BUT how long will the ANC ride that goat? Our civil servants arent happy and thats just ticking bomb. A country will never prosper when yr nurses, teachers, police, etc arent motivated. How long will our leaders squander with our tax money? No country is without flaws in its governance, problem is: with Africans governments when they steal they steal the whole pie!!

Will our leaders learn that: "A country that works benefits everybody"

Calendar
24 Nov 2009 15:10

@Blaqueboi - Well put.  Having grown up in the former Bop, I can't agree with you more. 

Remember the National Anthem

Lefatshe leno la BoRrarona
Re le abetswe ke Modimo 
Kwantle ga tshololo ya madi
Are lebogeng, are ipeleng x2

Modimo tshegofatsa fatshe le, 
Re neye Kagiso le Kutlwano
Tshegofatsa setshaba sa rona
Le yona puso ya rona, 
go ntsha maungo a a phedisang. 


I forgot the second verse. 

LIFE WAS GOOD THEN. We did not pay tax, but GST (General Sales Tax). Corruption, we did not know.

blaqueboi
24 Nov 2009 15:20

@ Calendar, I dnt remember it anymore. I vividly remember that my aunts who were teachers were very happy with their jobs. School was fun, we used to have these annual P.E.U.P events. The police station used to have ths annual rallies at the playground. Criminals were scorned upon by the community then. Now we idolise criminals within our midst. If u were accused of abusing yr wise the police would moer you before getting you into a van (ok maybe that wasnt a good thing if u were innocent but most werent)

Yeah those were the good times!!! They were not perfect but atleast people could feed their kids.

blaqueboi
24 Nov 2009 15:20

@ Calendar, I dnt remember it anymore. I vividly remember that my aunts who were teachers were very happy with their jobs. School was fun, we used to have these annual P.E.U.P events. The police station used to have ths annual rallies at the playground. Criminals were scorned upon by the community then. Now we idolise criminals within our midst. If u were accused of abusing yr wise the police would moer you before getting you into a van (ok maybe that wasnt a good thing if u were innocent but most werent)

Yeah those were the good times!!! They were not perfect but atleast people could feed their kids.

Calendar
24 Nov 2009 15:26

@Blaqueboi

Grade 12, you were guaranteed a job. If you went to tertiary gona, was a BONUS

Words like corruption, rape atc were unbeknown to us. If you were out of line (criminal activities) ma YB (Police) sorted you out.

Vesa
24 Nov 2009 15:32

Growing up in Bophuthatswana, our civil servants were happy thus enabling them to deliver better services to the people. Our school system was run efficiently, the police always attended to calls promptly, our pensioners were treated with utmost respect.. etc. Life was good, for some of us. Now that does that mean I should say Mangope was the best. 

If you were living in Mmabatho, Mabopane, Ga-Rankuwa and all those areas, the above is true. But if you grew up in the rural areas of the former Bop, it's a totally different case. He actually never did anything for those rural areas, and many of them only received basic services like water, tar roads, electricity etc from the ANC government....hence ANC enjoys massive support in North-West. 

He actually left the current Gov with a burden of many underdeveloped areas, that were unserviced......and a few areas that were well looked after. So to say his administration worked, is subjective.

myname
24 Nov 2009 15:55

Politics & Religion..........we will NEVER agree with each other.

Otherwise nice one AV (even though i coudnt finish bt i can see it was a heat).

Ava
24 Nov 2009 15:58

@Ava... anyone of any age does have a right to comment and have their opinion heard- you totally misread my comments. Really?in that case my bad.good to know we are on the same page then.

.........expecting that all thing will be done in 7 months well for me that will never happen.....

i doubt there is any1 here who expected all things to change within 7 months. for things to be completely turned around is gonna take longer than that i agree. these guys are definitely not miracle workers. What I’m disputing is that i have to wait before i can voice my quiries. i refuse to extend such a courtesy to them. Why? As long as I’m not satisfied with their service i will speak out about it until they deliver.

When they were campaigning they made promises to pple which they have to be reminded of. When they won they knew what they were getting into.Being the same party that was already in power previously just under different leadership now it shouldn’t take them as much time as it would take an entirely new party to get a move on !

Don't be fooled by these pple,it's neva premature to complain where the gov is concerned.yes it's only been 7 mnths but it starts out as 7 months and before you know it it's 5 years and they still haven't delivered,next thing you know 15 yrs have gone by.Like my gal GA said They must be kept on their toes...no time for holidaying.

I repeat as long as i'm not satisfied by their service i am allowed to start questioning their competence, seeing as it's one way i can make my dissatisfaction known. We do it with all the other service providers, why should it be different with them?they are afterall providing a service are they not?

i think these pple are taking too long basking in their shine wasting time and money that could be spent on the nation's turnaround. Busy making sure that they themselves are sorted out first before they carry out their duties????

yes they are entitled to their benefits,but why is the gov making it a first priority to allocate millions for their cars and what nots but when it comes to developing the collapsed departments they statter?

Pple need evidence in the form of action that shows that they are at least trying to solve all of these problems. Right now all that they have given are empty promises that pple have been hanging onto for too long.and since JZ took over,he and his team has also begun echoing these same empty promises hence there is a need to nip this empty promises trend in the bud . ever heard the expression once bitten twice shy.




nice
24 Nov 2009 16:00

Only read a few replies in between, and I am surprised to realise that some people think that the days of apartheid were better than what we live in today, I am shocked.

Bantu education, and working as maids and gardeners and if you were successful you were only a nurse, teacher with no hope of ever creating any wealth for yourself.

Only a few had access to those hospitals, and higher education.

Yes the system is not perfect, but I say it is better and YES when things are not right we should complain so they can improve them. But to say apartheid was better than this is nonsense. 

And as much as I did not vote for ANC in the previous election I understand why my parents still vote for ANC, it gave them dignity and respect. You may say it was a collective effort but to them ANC did all of that, regardless of how they sqander our tax monies, but my parents sae me going to varsity and my life and theirs in the process improved because of the struggle the ANC fought.

That being sad our current president owes a lot of people favours, and it is hard for him to rule but I say one department at a time, and I think HA is on its way to being improved. 

It does not mean that corruption, rape and all did not exist in the apartheid times, it is just that people were too afraid to speak out........crime has become more violent because criminals are getting greedy, but all this is caused by the fact that they see their peers who work hard for their houses and cars, and they also want that. It is not right, but that is the cause of it

There is so much that needs to be fixed, and it will be as long as everyone of us does something to make it right, and complain when someone else is messing up and give direction. To give up and think apartheid was better is not the way to go, ag nee ke ea hana!

nice
24 Nov 2009 16:14

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Sobza
24 Nov 2009 16:37

Government has a contractual obligation  and as citizens of this country we expect our government to satisfy the needs of the people of this country. 

"During apartheid certain things worked, though many of us would not openly admit it"

Well guys things have changed since ixesha le apartheid....the milieu of the society changed. The population of the country has increased and the rate of urbanisation, epidemics and diseases, demographic forces, industrialisation and global warming. These are some of the factors that make it difficult for the government to deliver services. Having said that, the government must deliver services to the people.

I am still waiting for the 500 000 jobs the president promised he would create.

blaqueboi
24 Nov 2009 16:50

I guess what we can agree on is that all this is subjective. If u r unemployed and live in a shack right now, u would have a different opinion on the stance of the New SA to that of someone who earns R3mil per year. As blacks though we need to get out of the habit of overlooking incompetence, accepting mediocre and buying face simple because one of our own is in charge

eg. A brotha will be stealing from a company. U would know abt it and not say anything because its a fellow brotha who's commiting the crime. Inevitably the whole company collapses, u all lose your jobs and who do you blame? white people cos "they dont want to see a black man in charge".

We sabotage ourselves and until we get out of that mentality we will still vote governments in based on emotions than on policies. We will steal toyi toyi for lack of services and burn the same schools that we'll be complaining about not having later.

Yes Apartheid was horrible but there r certain elements of it that worked. All we had to do was improve on them and fix whats broken not dismantle the whole machine without having the means to build it up again. We r so hell-bound on destroying the past that we tend to lose our common sense in the process. Perfect example is the SABC, yes during aprtheid it was a propaganda medium but its management worked. Instead of getting in there and getting rid of all the who knew what they were doing in there, our government got there ad got rid of all of them and re[placed them with people who had no clue about running a tv station. Hell our minister of communications probably didnt even know what the word communications means let alone know about the industry.

PS: I will elaborate more on the SABC issue. Its shocking what Sisulu and Mbatha did to the corporation and the subsequent ripple effect

blaqueboi
24 Nov 2009 16:56

I guess what we can agree on is that all this is subjective. If u r unemployed and live in a shack right now, u would have a different opinion on the stance of the New SA to that of someone who earns R3mil per year. As blacks though we need to get out of the habit of overlooking incompetence, accepting mediocre and buying face simple because one of our own is in charge

eg. A brotha will be stealing from a company. U would know abt it and not say anything because its a fellow brotha who's commiting the crime. Inevitably the whole company collapses, u all lose your jobs and who do you blame? white people cos "they dont want to see a black man in charge".

We sabotage ourselves and until we get out of that mentality we will still vote governments in based on emotions than on policies. We will steal toyi toyi for lack of services and burn the same schools that we'll be complaining about not having later.

Yes Apartheid was horrible but there r certain elements of it that worked. All we had to do was improve on them and fix whats broken not dismantle the whole machine without having the means to build it up again. We r so hell-bound on destroying the past that we tend to lose our common sense in the process. Perfect example is the SABC, yes during aprtheid it was a propaganda medium but its management worked. Instead of getting in there and getting rid of all the who knew what they were doing in there, our government got there ad got rid of all of them and re[placed them with people who had no clue about running a tv station. Hell our minister of communications probably didnt even know what the word communications means let alone know about the industry.

PS: I will elaborate more on the SABC issue in my next blog. Its shocking what Sisulu and Mbatha did to the corporation and the subsequent ripple effect

Cande
24 Nov 2009 19:52

Sego, home affairs has improved a lot hle.. I got my passport in less than 4 weeks and a temp passport in 5 days.  I hear some places you can get a temp immediately... Come to Centurion my darling.. 
I salute minister Dlamini-Zuma, but i do agree with Realist, mix the races and you will see results!!!

tha - bang
25 Nov 2009 12:35

my five cent.theres no point in complaining ,we all know the ANC is corrupt and inefficient ,we just have not come to terms with it. From Thibos administration to Jiggaman,its all words and not real change.
How do you increase your cabinent in a middle of a recession? How do we rationalise spending millions on cars whilst we have a backlog on housing ,water and a crises in education system?

the worst part is ,those of us who are defending the powers that be are the ones worst affected by the ineffeiciency of government; from poor public transport, poor public school,poor policing and poor health care.for those who do not have the money these things affect us the most.Yet we see nothing wrong?

i believe the most important thing about this arguement for me is that it has shown once again that we can not rely on government to bring about change.If we want better health care ,we need to start making means to make it better.It means we should take care of our own hospitals ,raise funds for them,the same applies to public schools.Even though the government takes our taxes every day and income tax every month we are not benefitng from it.so if we are to just complain in a few years most townships schools would be worse off than they are now.So community members and those affected need to take an effective role in bettering these places.

Government has failed and i promise you it aint going to get better,the honeymoon period is about to come to a crashing end.i say look at zim and zambia for lessons about ineffictive and unaccountable governance.the future generations will look to our time and ask us what did we do,what will be your answer....

Authentic views
25 Nov 2009 12:40

Thanks again for your comments to my article.

Our Governments has its flops and they are very costly but nothing could be as bad as apartheid. We can blog and criticise or express our opinions without getting into troble for doing so while during apartheid you could choose your words carefully or you're dead. Everything was scrutinized including music lyrics but now even if SABC ban your song we can still buy it at Music store shelves.

Most of the detoriation came as a result of poor planning or strategies of progressive strategies, deploying underqualified people into positions of power, I think the should have been a skill transfer process and continuous training for senior positions because you can have your Havard Qualification (like Jacob Maroga) but end up at the wrong place to use it.
2ndly our State model of promising all they can do for citizens or the poor instead of empowering citizens to do what they can do for themselves doesn't work or won't work till many get empowered to take full responsibility for their life needs. We still have a long way to go and we will get there if can all look for what we can do for our country.
I agree with many Mama Dlamini-Zuma is working her ass off to fix the mess she inherited at Home Affairs, our Health Minister is stuck in executing National health insurance, its too early indeed to gauge where everybody is but Transnet, SAA, SABC, Eskom and other Public enterprises needs to be sorted sooner than later.
I'm looking forward to read Blaqueboi's blog on SABC issues.

Authentic views
25 Nov 2009 12:43

Thanks for your views Tha-bang, I agree 100% with you.

Molilo
25 Nov 2009 13:04

I will say HA is working the minute themarriage verification site is up and running again

tha - bang
26 Nov 2009 18:36

look whosetakingup the NPA position mmmmmmmhhhh

Authentic views
27 Nov 2009 09:42

It was tuesday when I wrote that it won't be long before NPA's new head gets appointed, what happened a day later announcement was made.
JZ has won the power of Justice and security cluster under his belt and as long as those are in power and ANC is united behind him his matter will never be re-visited. Nathi Mthethwa is in charge of Police, Siyabonga Cwele of Intelligent Agency and Jeff Rhadebe in Justice & Constitution.
2nd layer is made up of Bheki Cele in Police, Mo Shaik in Intelligent Agency and now Menzi Simelane as head of NPA. On top of that is Justice Sandile Ngcobo as Chief Justice. power to investigate and power to prosecute are all in his loyalists, the Head of Hawks will be clipped if he ever want Hawks to investigate JZ.
He can say that JZ is not above the law?

GML
27 Nov 2009 09:46

I was thinking the same thing AV> You said it wont be long and I was shocked to read about it this week

How it is that all those appointed are JZ loyalists.

And the fact that Menzi simelane is a yes man surrounded by controversy does not restore my hope in the justice system at all

Mathaz
27 Nov 2009 10:12

To say that i was shocked at Menzi's appointment is an understatement, even Ngoako Ramathlodi is considered better in my books, cadre deployment will prove to be the fall of the ANC.

Authentic views
27 Nov 2009 10:19

It is very important for Zuma to have his own people in Justice and Security cluster, this is where to power to investigate and prosecute lies. How would he guarantee his safety if he puts independent person?
It was intelligent agencies who destroyed Mbeki's presidency. The spy saga which involved unauthorized surveillance of Saki Macozoma (a Mbeki loyalist) and the e-mails Billy Masethla claimed to have intercepted (conversations by Mbeki loyalist to keep JZ out of power) and later JZ's case was thrown out again because intelligent agents taped Ngcuka and Mccathy's conversations.
Mbeki's efforts to save Selebi by suspending Pikoli were more driven by the fact that he was the only loyalist in that cluster (Justice & Sercurity).
The move end results favored JZ to put his own man and ensure his safety.

Floh
28 Nov 2009 09:12

I like reading about Politics. I was telling my roomza that all the Zulu's are now getting top positions.

I think we should all leave Shabir Shaik alone, he never killed anyone but steal money of which anyone who had access will do. The murderers and rapists are roaming our streets.

I am from a rural area under Umzinyathi, still drink water from the well where cows, donkeys also drink. So, I always fetch the drinking water from my brothers place where they have taps. My goverment has done nothing since 1994 except for electricity. I think if they can disolve this thing of separating the villages by Amakhosi ne Zinduna. 

My brother lives accross the main road under different King ( Inkosi), they have the brigdes, maintained roads , clean water and a creche when we have nothing. We only suffer because of the clash between parties, nxa man.

When we bypass all this people and go to regional office to complain, they send us back and say they want the King and the Counsellor, whom are useless ANC+IFP, bang they clash.

I am now going to call the Presidency.


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