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Oh My Gaaaaaaawd!

Written by carino from the blog 3 Seconds on 09 Feb 2010
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Has he really crossed the line now???

What happened to responsible journalism? Has our president really pushed us this far??? Shuuu!!

I like Jonathan Shapiro and I've always enjoyed his work, nhe.. but today... when i saw this.. I couldn't laugh or anything.... my hand went straight to cover my mouth.... I AM SHOCKED!!

And embarrassed at the same time...

No people! there needs to be a line drawn somewhere. Zuma is still a father of this nation (in all true sense of this statement.lol) He is still an elder..

It does not matter what your father does or doesn't do to embarrass himself.. that never ever gives you a right to disrespect and insult him. Never!

Tjo! Hayi!

126 Comments

carino
09 Feb 2010 08:22

Father!!!!!

ms.tebby
09 Feb 2010 08:30

OMG......

Tholi
09 Feb 2010 08:33

LMAO!!!

HARAMBE24
09 Feb 2010 08:35

kwakwakwakwa

makgotso
09 Feb 2010 08:39

Thank you Carino,l was asking myself the same that what happened to the respect of eldery people.

makgotso
09 Feb 2010 08:39

Best-Achiever
09 Feb 2010 08:40

i feel sorry for his children.

Molilo
09 Feb 2010 08:42

Mare this elder le yena o ikentse man

Firstdvd
09 Feb 2010 08:48

OMW! Dear God.... ... ...

cleve
09 Feb 2010 09:10

Uzenzile man!

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 09:18

I see nothing wrong with the cartoon.. it is an expression and satire... if it is too close to the truth, deal with it!

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 09:19

he keeeps his member handled, cartoonists don't have material. simple.

Green.arrow
09 Feb 2010 09:19

I worry ke coz i am indifferent about zapiro's cartoons about him. Beyond the humour (however "unaccepatable") i get the point, the message,i dunno.....I do have empathy for those affected. But if they are affected terribly by this they must take measures to bring him to order...
listening to Redi ...a re she is Zuma'd out...who isnt mara...

Sana Lwam
09 Feb 2010 09:31

LOL...I saw that and still cant help but laugh. He is still our President and Zapiro said he had dropped the shower head manje?

carino
09 Feb 2010 09:35

Theres definitely humour there...Zapiro always is. All im saying is if my own father would have an illigitimate child right now...i definitely wouldnt laugh at something like this drawn of him. I'd actually take the artist on.

TerryN
09 Feb 2010 09:46

ROFTLMAO...Zapiro got lots of GUTS

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 09:47

cariri, a waste of time to take Zapiro on... you take on your father to act responsible and stop embarrassing the family, creating material for cartoonists... no cortoonists wants to draw a sqeaky clean person, whatever is drama is material...

Tshilo
09 Feb 2010 09:48

Repect is earned,u need to respect in order to be respected.A good leader leads by example

maddie
09 Feb 2010 09:51

He is still our President
@sana lwam

he should start acting like one, bagaetsho democracy is a modern concept, with civilized/modern practices.

Zuma is not a Chief, he's a president and he should understand that.

he brought this upon himself and in a democratic society people like Zapiro will draw cartoons according to his actions.

yesterday i saw michelle obama's pictures depicted as a monkey, i nearly got worked up but i realized that not so long ago they did the same to Bush, so it's part of the whole political game if u can't handle the heat get out

sponono
09 Feb 2010 09:54

Segololo said>>I see nothing wrong with the cartoon.. it is an expression and satire... if it is too close to the truth, deal with it!

Tshilo>>>Repect is earned,u need to respect in order to be respected.A good leader leads by example

I agree --these statements sum up everything perfectly... the next thing journalists will be expected to respects murderers, rapists and other scumbags, just because theya re "elders" or fatherly maybe we need to define what FATHER means .....

BTW I' m lookin foward to the next cartoon

baby e
09 Feb 2010 09:57

@ Segologolo and Tshilo
Yes respect is earned period.

myname
09 Feb 2010 09:59

LOL sori Carino bt i have 2 laugh....hihihihihi i didnt c this......Zapiro is the man, bt i think he needs 2 call me 4 a perfect lawyer lol...

Firstdvd
09 Feb 2010 10:00

But i'm against dat arrow...Dat is Zuma's PRIVATE PART...Not a NATION PRIVATE PART! (PRIVATE =PERSONAL)

Molilo
09 Feb 2010 10:02

BTW I' m lookin foward to the next cartoon,
me too Sponza I agree with Sego, and maddies, have u seen the one love campaign cartoon? I LOLed at that one as well

carino
09 Feb 2010 10:05

Hawu... Prez naye...why use Choice condoms??? They are the reason for so many teenage pregnancies in SA... Clearly they not properly tested for quality. ..

Lex
09 Feb 2010 10:32

Lex
09 Feb 2010 10:40

Zapiro ke skhokho straight,I also cant wait for the next cartoon.I honestly don’t fell sorry for JZ,the only people I feel sorry for are his kids.I hope his actions will teach him to always remember that there are consequences for every action he takes.He must be feeling very bad for the shame he has put his children through,coz this cant be easy for the poor kids.

If this does not make him change his ways…then I honestly don’t know what will.I’m not saying he should discontinue marrying (actually I am saying that coz as taxpayers we are paying somehow to the upkeep of his wives and children) but how about going about it the ‘right’ way,u don’t put up a roof and start with the foundation later akere!

Cande
09 Feb 2010 10:45

Tjo, i didnt see this... KWPKD kwkakwkakwkakwkakwakwkaka haiye No Zapiro ke skhokho maan and i gotta agree with everyone who says respect is earned!

Capser
09 Feb 2010 11:25

Zapiro must draw and draw until Zuma starts acting responsible and like an elderly leader. Makes just think: did uTata spend all those years in jail for JZ to be a pimp drill, makin babies and setting a bad example? Just breaks a heart to see thing like these with South Africa on the spot light all the world watching us. Sis maan!!!! And he'll be there during the opening of 2010 with all higher authorities. Wish one asks him of his children... Sis maan... Thts y I didn vote. Shapa ZAPIRO Shapa!!!

monchooza
09 Feb 2010 11:31

i think it time these woman start taking pictures of him nude..and post on the net

ms.tebby
09 Feb 2010 11:41

...Still on that , i wonder how many children were left in exile....only time will tell! *hides*

KeleFabulous
09 Feb 2010 12:05

Bill Clinton was put on trial for having an extra marital affair...zuma has done far worse and people are still saying respect respect...he should start respecting himself, his wives and his children first before he can start pointing fingers.

i actually feel sorry for having voted for anc rha!

Lex
09 Feb 2010 12:17

ms.tebby I'm also waiting for the exile stats to come out,we are still gonna be shocked I tell you.

fruity
09 Feb 2010 12:23

Zapiro is either BRAVE or really foolish, After all the lawsuits filed against him by the prez. I wonder how the first citizen is going to react to this, or even Juju for that matter,

carino
09 Feb 2010 12:42

Kakapana
09 Feb 2010 12:47

think it time these woman start taking pictures of him nude..and post on the net

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa now wouldnt that be a sight...clearly the man has umshini, to be shagging so many women, who are young enough to be his kids.

kodwa where does he get the time to be bed hopping. phela uya-traveller lomuntu. at least u Clinton was doing the nasty with his intern

Kakapana
09 Feb 2010 12:53

i wonder how many children were left in exile

i did a story two weeks ago (before the Snono Khoza scandal) about a 30 year old Zimbabwean man who claims to be the love child of Zuma.

he alleges that Zuma meet his mother, while in exile in Mozambique

Mavhungu
09 Feb 2010 13:10

This is starting to look like Tiger Woods saga. Mistresses popping out left right and centre. Well in this case its children.

My mom is/ was a die hard fan of Zuma but right now she does not have a leg to stand on when it comes to Zuma. Ubamba la ayeke la.

Best-Achiever
09 Feb 2010 13:22

Zuma didnt cheat on anyone. He's a man of many affairs kakade. And besides...this is Africa...not America.

hhayi bo Carino, kanti what do you call a man who leaves his known wiVes and go have extra marital affair??? ... Zuma is a cheater, he cheated on his wiVes bathong, he wasnt either married or engaged to Sonono ... Sonono ke makhwapheni that he was or still is cheating with

Tholi
09 Feb 2010 13:32

Bill Clinton and President Zuma are two different people fromm two different continents, Different cultures, different Countries, different races..u name it. u can't compare the two.

Zuma had kids with all his wife before even marrying them. and his family don't have a prob with his affair with Sonono. Duduzani wrote a letter to the media setting them straight on behalf of the family!

Kakapana
09 Feb 2010 13:36

well his letter clearly didnt work, but i do feel for them (children)

KeleFabulous
09 Feb 2010 13:37

a president is a president regardless of continent, country, culture or race. he has an image to uphold and he;s been doing a bloody good job of showing us what not to do.

Best-Achiever
09 Feb 2010 13:43

Oh Please guys, STOP WITH THIS CULTURE what what ... What Zuma did is NOT CULTURE, ZULU CULTURE doesnt approve of EXTRA MARITAL AFFAIRS ...

Tholi, he wasnt a president Then!

Tshilo
09 Feb 2010 13:48

Duduzani had no choice its his dad's future.I wuld have done the same to keep food in the table.so pleeeaaassss Tholi open ur eyes

Tshd21
09 Feb 2010 13:50

Zuma is an "elderly" dog, period!!
And I like the way he is giving Zapiro the highlight of his career at the moment...
I mean the embarrassment he is causing his wives and children simply because he can't zip his pants??? Tjo

Lex
09 Feb 2010 13:54

I honestly dont get some of you guys...We are still gonna talk about him until some worthy scandal breaks and we shift our attention to it.But for the time being, our country's president does not deserve my respect,not after embarassing his family the way he did,the next thing he tells me to use a condom,wa gafa,I'm not gonna use a condom,ke batla go utlwa monate just like him!KPFKSKD

Tshd21
09 Feb 2010 13:57

I dont get why we are comparing this to the Bill Clinton case. Clinton was already in office when he cheated .Zuma didnt cheat on anyone. He's a man of many affairs kakade. And besides...this is Africa...not America..

Askies??? The man was running for presidency for pete's sake. He was the president of the ANC... And before that, he cheated with an HIV positive woman.... Are you like, for real Carino??

People should stop with this respect your elders thingie. When has the ANC ever respected their elders?? Not so long ago they were quick to say that Zille, an elder, was a concubine and sleeping with all her employees... jeez, talk about throwing a stone while living in a glass house, Zuma wa ba tsholola shem

Best-Achiever
09 Feb 2010 14:01

Duduzani had no choice its his dad's future.I wuld have done the same to keep food in the table

Food... hehehe not only food LUXURY CRUISE ship on the move

CourtneyJhb
09 Feb 2010 14:03

Zapiro wa tella, period!!!!!!

Toodecent
09 Feb 2010 14:03

Mshowerlozi will never learn or let go...Gotcho bo Baleka Mbete better look after their HOT daughters.. Its going to be tswalang dirope Zuma ke oo.

Mr President if you think you are hounarable and wants to be respected please RESIGN and walk away like Mr Mbeki did when you and gang forced him to. But I know you wont resign because you still need to be taken care of with your nation of children and wives..

Cande
09 Feb 2010 14:03

thank you BA, he wasnt the president when he went impregnating women he was not married to, besides he was engaged to them and they were not his friends' daughters......ooh Please Duduzani is known of protecting her father vele, do we even know if Nkosazana's children approved?? his other children or even his other wives for that matter....

pnyembe
09 Feb 2010 14:13

Uzenzile akakhalelwa, ku Khalelwa Uzumekile

Mambox
09 Feb 2010 14:51

Guys did you see the baby shower one!!! tjo...gotta love Zapiro

Savanah Dry
09 Feb 2010 15:22

Shame i cant help but feel sorry for Zuma , i guess this will make him start thinking with his brains not Mshini but really now i dont see why most people are surprised by all this didnt he declare that he is a sex machine before he was even voted into power Mshini wam mshin wam next time you will know how to vote he never had my respect !!!!

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 16:08

Cariri, let me help you understand the difference between Clinton and Zuma

Clinton had one wife, he was using tax-payers money to fund one family, he had sex with Slutswinky - he did not use the government money to fund her expenses - she did not qualify for off-loading from the tax-payers money, they did not bear children... I do not condone what he did, he also disgusts me but since his wife forgave him, all I can do is have an opinion... Same as Zuma...

BUT with Zuma, it impacts my pocket how many children he acknowledges, how many marriages and girlfriends he has.. I pay for it, so do you and everyone that is a tax-payer in this country. when he says "I do", "come here, leave the condom" and a baby pops out... WE, the tax-payers, FEEL it cause the money to support, indulge, entertain, have birthday parties, have weddings, have private hospital fees paid for his huge family is done by our money, not his salary!!

Our roads, our hospitals, our schools and houses could use that extra little (used now to support his family) bit to help our people and country and also curb the service delivery issues...

So, do you get why we can't compare...?

Lex
09 Feb 2010 16:19

Ke sono ka di loyalists tsa Zuma.

carino
09 Feb 2010 16:23

Wabona, Sego.. thats what I want to hear... lets state facts, lets bring intelligent arguments to the table.. Not just call him insult him coz we've read somewhere that he apparently "sleeps around" .

Lets not disrespect the president out of group-think.... and we go around passing insults here and there with no understanding, and with statements we cant support with facts.

We can argue this case how ever we want to, but lets still maintain the respect.. we cant go around painting the president's private parts and we say it's coz he hasnt held them to himself... Thats just wrong.

Besides, it looks like the president had children with all his wives before marrying them. He has kept a consistent record of sleeping with them before tying the knot.
We voted him president with all his children... most born out of wedlock. .. Why do we suddenly have a problem with bastardsy now???

So, lets argue intelligently, people... and still respect the elders... It doesnt matter whether they earn th erespect or not.. Elders do not earn respect... they just deserve it.

carino
09 Feb 2010 16:30

Ke sono ka di loyalists tsa Zuma.

Waitse nhe, Lex.. nna im not a Zuma loyalist at all - i have never been... even with the elections, I only ended up giving him an emotional vote coz the only other option I had was Helen Zille.... but when the day approached she started doing all these things.. disrespecting msholozi and acting all crazy.. So i put that cross next to the mshini... and voila..... my president took office..

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 16:34

<<We voted him president with all his children>> no, nana... not some of us... Same the majority, I was part of the minority... KSPKD!

<<Elders do not earn respect... they just deserve it>>
if he acts like he is 13, being controlled by hormones and the arrow on Zapiro's pic, I choose not to respect him cause he is not taking responsibility of being an elder, does not carry his deeds like an elder... So, nna ka se kgone! he doesn't deserve mine, my elders (ones that respect themselves, their families and their deeds) will get it as they deserve it...

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 16:35

i wanted to write.. "Say the majority"

cuz-cuz
09 Feb 2010 16:36

i think umsholozi should have that sticker sikaShembe esithi

"Nongamthandi uyoze amthande" cause i dont think he is going anywhere

Tshd21
09 Feb 2010 16:39

Well-said Sego

zozoe
09 Feb 2010 16:41

kwakwakwakwkakwakwakwaka

cuz-cuz
09 Feb 2010 16:45

on my way to work this morning , i met this old man, he greets me and ask where i am from . i actually hate answering this question when i just met u and u greet next thing you wanna know where i am from. anyway we talked he told me how much he respects and loves Mr Mandela and also Breda Fassie (Vulindlela is still a hit here, last year they had a summit on climate change and they close with Mabrrr). then we reached the main road and we went separate ways but b4 separating he says tomorrow we will talk about yo president and his 10 wives, is he Muslim by the way, was like tomorrow sir, i hope i don’t meet him tomorrow.

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 16:47

cuz-cuz, I would suggest you don't miss the chance to talk to him again... just to hear him out as I would never pass up a chace to talk to an elder who might have (or not) some wisdom..

FK
09 Feb 2010 16:54

Jah neh!!!
Of lately I choose what I respond to not becuase I don't have anything to say, but we seem to faill in having a decent debate. Nonetheless, here is my 2 cents worth.

ZAPIRO is out of order, period. Yes, satire???? Not so sure. Clearly the president has an addiction problem. Why don't we help him instead of mocking.

From a christian perspective, both gentlemen are in the wrong. Mr President for breaking the 7th commandment and Zapiro for breaking the 5th commandment.
Now two wrongs don't make a right.

Like I said sometime last week, I will still vote ANC, does not matter whose pic is on the ballot paper. Unless a new party comes to play nicely with me.

That is me. LET ME TAKE COVER.

carino
09 Feb 2010 17:03

Thank you, FK.

lady gaga
09 Feb 2010 17:09

FK,ithathe vele icover cause u need it! Ur prez sucks..

FK
09 Feb 2010 17:18

Lady G - who is without fault? Fault is fault - whether promiscuity or lying - it is still wrong.

The difference is, I cannot use strong words, insults to attack the person. LETS TACKLE THE BALL and not the player.

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 17:20

FK, *sigh*... did we have to bring the commandments here, mara? if I have to quote the sins I believe your president has done, I would not finish today... Thanks for the laugh tho!

Zapiro for president!!!

Cnglemother
09 Feb 2010 17:25

Cariri hi-hi-hi!bring em on zapiro!im also waiting 4 a Zuma sextape on the net.

FK
09 Feb 2010 17:28

Segs - no need for you to sigh. I believe your point can still be heard without the sigh. Anywhooo - you brought in SARS and I did not sigh to that. And unfortunately on your part - my christianlity comes first before my culture.

Read my response to LG

Da Diva
09 Feb 2010 17:31

MY BIBLE SAYZ" HLONIPHA UYIHLO NONYOKO. SO AS MUCH I Respect my Biological Parents i respect uMsholozi. Who am i 2 call Him in names? We all make mistakes and want 2 b 4given.

Cnglemother
09 Feb 2010 17:33

FK my friend tjo commandments and zuma lol!

FK
09 Feb 2010 17:42

Cnga - our constitution does not say much / or rather are speciific when it comes to moral behaviour and how to conduct yourself as a Pres. Now the commandments does not exclude anyone. Everyone is expected to observe them and unfortunately my Pres, did break it.

eish, off topic - did you see Penny's dress and hair? She looked stunning and I liked the way she carried herself through out. I will be watching her religiously.

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 17:47

FK, The *sigh* was humor, not to offend you... My apologies if I offended you in any way, my dear... none was meant.

O mpheditse matla... so I put the *sigh* as humor.

Eish! Guys, do you remembver that Zuma was ordained a preacher when he was campaigning last year...? Pastor Zuma and his members... *smh*

honey147
09 Feb 2010 17:54

I'm not going to give respect where its not due..sorry
If he respected himself ..the least he could do is to be discreeet..but was he..?????no So I agree with Zapiro 100%

FK
09 Feb 2010 17:57

Cool then Segs - ke ne ke ipotsa gore o nwele bojoang gompieno. LOL

Yes, he is Pastor Zuma.

Guys, I don't agree with what he did, done, and does. That is so wrong. All Im saying, if leaving the office will make him change his wayward ways, then be it. Let's be constructive in dealing with his misbehaviours.

maddie
09 Feb 2010 18:12

it's so sad we've become a nation that accepts mediocrity all in the name of forgiveness.

forgiveness is good for us even the bible encourages it as some of you have quoted but right now all we need to do is to forgive Msholozi and let him do the honourable thing and step down as president because at the rate we're going we'll end up forgiving future paedophiles, murderers, rapists, pimps presidents.

with great power comes great responsibility and if you read the good book God encouraged the leaders to be without reproach cos if they strayed the nation suffered big time.

Segololo
09 Feb 2010 18:15

lol! FK, I think you know my love for the ALC too well... but I refrain from drinking motshegare mo mmerekong... KSPKD!!! O mpolaile! ROFLMAO!

Lela
09 Feb 2010 18:40

I also loved everything abt Mapenza n her show ystdy,she was in her element.

Da Diva
09 Feb 2010 18:48

@maddie "Zuma step down".... Thats impossible darling. 4 da record Zuma ddnt break any rules in SA constitution. He iz going 2 b our President until 2014 then we( as ANC MEMBERS) can decide if we still want him/not

Toodecent
09 Feb 2010 18:48

Gatwe instead of helping him by what? Getting daughters and sisters to open up cause that sounds like the only way he helps himself..

FK
09 Feb 2010 18:49

Yes, maddie - with great power comes great responsibility and if you read the good book God encouraged the leaders to be without reproach cos if they strayed the nation suffered big time. AMEN

and the leader must be someone with one wife and of sober habits - as per the bible.

FK
09 Feb 2010 18:59

Toody - I don't think that kind of help with help him nor the nation. We need to find out from Tiger Woods if his willing to share his psychologist number.

da diva - Right now, I think my pres, must just step down and fix his life. After the shower issue, Mr Pres wrote an apology. And now he is writing another one. It sounds to me that if he does not get help, we will be reading another apology from him. I am no saint, I have my faults but, St Paul gives us guidelines into what we need to look for when choosing leaders. And unfortunately, he does not cut it.

Him stepping down does not mean the presidency will be given to the other parties. It will still stay with the ANC. Then they can go back to the drawing board and elect a man with one wife and sober habits from their pool. Like I said I don't care who becomes the countries president. As long as that person comes from the ANC. Mr Motlhanthe maybe. Does he have one wife?

Lex
09 Feb 2010 20:19

Cariri love,nna just like the minority of the country didnt/couldnt vote for him or the party I had come to love.Somehow I knew he was gonna to something embarassing,not only to himself but to his family and the nation,I just knew,how I dunno,but I just knew.I refuse to respect someone who does not respect for themselves,eo yone ngwana ko gae nka se e kgone,elder or not.Respect, just like trust is earned.

carino
09 Feb 2010 21:11

Cande
09 Feb 2010 22:53

He had kids with wives before marrying them but he was not the country's no 1 citizen then and some of us didnt vote for ANC/ZUMA.

He doesnt carry himself like an elder so i dont see ho the bible verse can be referring to him. Ho does an elder sleep with his friend's daughter??

I thought by now he would have earned my respect because i am one of those ho never anted to give him a chance, but nah he just ruined his chances!!!
When will he stop apologising and taking responsibility of his actions and not hiding behind his "culture"..? Haiye NO this is NOT on comrades

realist
10 Feb 2010 07:10

I am with Segololo, Maddie and Cande on this one. With the exception of the few, it just shows you that us africans we are good when it comes to dropping of standarts in the name of culture. Zuma is an embarrassment not only to SA but also to the anc itself. Wonder why these women ministers are still prepared to serve under him.

cleve
10 Feb 2010 08:33

it's so sad we've become a nation that accepts mediocrity all in the name of forgiveness.

Eish Maddie you couldn't have said it better. Thank God I never voted.............. wasted my time to vote for someone who would embarass me as a SA'n

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 09:01

cleve, o wrongo... u still should have voted. Even a spoiled vote is a voice to what you think about the people on the ballot.

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 09:03

You know, even if he resigns his family still gets security and all the crap previous presidents get so he really has niks to lose but a position... He is set for life at our expense *sigh*

FK
10 Feb 2010 09:12

I thought when you are forced to resign you forfeit all the benefits. Same as being recalled. I know Mr Mbeki's case was different, even though he was recalled.

Clearly I need to learn these things.

Cande
10 Feb 2010 09:16

No you dont FK, all the previous presidents still keep their benefits including Kgalema Motlanthe!

Molilo
10 Feb 2010 09:20

Can someone please post the OATH Zuma took in April during his inauguration, then maybe it will be clearer why SAns are disappointed in his actions

FK
10 Feb 2010 09:26

Cande - But Ntate Motlanthe was acting???? and he is still the deputy
Tat'uMandela retired
And I did mentioned that Mr Mbeki was a special case.

Please give me other examples or point me in the right direction.

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 09:30

@ Molilo
below is the oath.. Let's disect it...

South Africa
The oath of office of the President of South Africa is as follows:

In the presence of those assembled here and in full realisation of the high calling I assume as President in the service of the Republic of South Africa I, (name), do hereby swear (or solemnly affirm) to be faithful to the Republic of South Africa, and do solemnly and sincerely promise at all times to promote that which will advance and to oppose all that may harm the Republic; to obey, observe, uphold and maintain the Constitution and all other Law of the Republic; to discharge my duties with all my strength and talents to the best of my knowledge and ability and true to the dictates of my conscience; to do justice to all; and to devote myself to the well-being of the Republic and all its people. (So help me God)

For members of the Parliament of South Africa, the oath is:

''I, (name), do hereby swear (or solemnly affirm) to be faithful to the Republic of South Africa and solemnly promise to perform my functions as a member of the National Assembly/National Council of Provinces to the best of my ability. (So help me God)

source: http://en.allexperts.com/e/o/oa/oath_of_office.htm

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 09:31

@ FK, yes Motlamthe still has all those benefits... and he was not acting, he was our president...

FK
10 Feb 2010 09:32

Chapter 5 - The President and National Executive

Section 89. Removal of President

The National Assembly, by a resolution adopted with a supporting vote of at least two thirds of its members, may remove the President from office only on the grounds of
a. serious violation of the Constitution or the law;
b. serious misconduct; or
c. inability to perform the functions of office.

Anyone who has been removed from the office of President in terms of subsection (1) (a) or (b) may not receive any benefits of that office, and may not serve in any public office.

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 09:41

But Mbeki never violated any of those, his party recalled him. He still has the benefits..

Vibrator (Zuma), as per the tv show 4play, qualifies to be removed for miconduct

cleve
10 Feb 2010 09:44

Segololo I'm glad I didn't because I know I would have voted for that bugger. SO I am very glad that I didn't. I won't vote futhi until I find a party that adresses everything that I beleive in

FK
10 Feb 2010 09:53

@Segs - But Mbeki never violated any of those, his party recalled him. He still has the benefits

He was asked to resign following a Pietermaritzburg High Court judgment that Mbeki may have been involved in a political conspiracy against ruling party leader Jacob Zuma. (in my mind that would be a. serious violation of the Constitution or the law; )

What falls under serious misconduct?
They need to start breaking this down and not use a blanket to cover it.

You know, even if he resigns his family still gets security and all the crap previous presidents get so he really has niks to lose but a position...

Id rather have him resign/ fired / recalled (keep or not the benefits) than having him continuing writing future apologies.

What's done is done - what do you suggest going forward?

BIllionare
10 Feb 2010 10:09

I never felt Mr Prez and did not vote because of him.

What I don't like about newspapes is that if it is a black person they go as far as Zapiro went on this one, if it were a white person he would have restrained himself... that is hipoccrisy newspapers practice...

has he commented about Rhema church pastor divorcing for the second time, the Vodacom scandal has been swept under the carpet although more allegations are coming out against the former CEO Alan Knott-Craig...

BIllionare
10 Feb 2010 10:17

EISH you know previously it would be an honour to meet the president , am not sure if I would like to meet JZ, I can imagine this old man winking at me,,,,jeeerrrr

BIllionare
10 Feb 2010 10:17

EISH you know previously it would be an honour to meet the president , am not sure if I would like to meet JZ, I can imagine this old man winking at me,,,,jeeerrrr

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 10:24

@ Billionaire LMAO!! @ winking... with him, anything is possible

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 10:39

What so I suggest going forward?

Tiger woods to give him his shrink's doctor's digits...

To limit his budget on his harem and broods... any new wives and children have to be supported by his salary, not tax-money

Maybe a vasectomy would do and an HIV test result publicized (I know this is pushing it and a wrong - crossing the line not because of culture but emotions)

all his friends who have girl-children over 15 to not allow any contact with him

maybe if he also learns to answer questions when interviewed, that would be a bonus

Otherwise, I don't see him redeeming himself in my eyes.. regardless of what he does.

FK
10 Feb 2010 10:48

and you think this can be achieved? lol Who will run the country whilest busy implementing all these?

I just want him to step down. YES I said it, I voted for ANC, nothing personal. I just want them to appoint a good leader.

Mathaz
10 Feb 2010 10:49

My understanding is that Monthanthe forfeited those benefits after he was sworn in as the Deputy President that is why Baleka Mbete did not want to occupy any other post other than that of being Deputy President so she could still enjoy those benefits.

President Zuma does not deserve such disrespect, yes he might have gone overboard but he is still the PRESIDENT and i fail to understand why he should resign, he has not done anything to me that suggests that he is not fit for the presidency.

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 10:51

couple in Isidingo. Parsons wants a baby with Thandi. However Parsons, the guy, cannot father babies (or, can he?).

So Zeb (Parsons' father) helps his son (Parsons) out by donating his sperm to Thandi. Thandi undergoes artificial insemination with Zeb's sperm but Parsons doesn't know this.

When Thandi becomes pregnant she is not sure whether Parsons is the father or Zeb is, because immediately after the insemination she slept with her husband.. So she does a partenity test on this unborn baby to find out who the real father is

The partenity test comes back. Thandi opens it. She reads the results. She is shocked. Very shocked, very, very shocked. The father of the baby is Jacob Zuma.

KSPKD!!

FK
10 Feb 2010 11:16

President Zuma does not deserve such disrespect, yes he might have gone overboard but he is still the PRESIDENT and i fail to understand why he should resign, he has not done anything to me that suggests that he is not fit for the presidency.

@Mathaz - yes he does not deserve such disrespect. In fact, no one deserves such mockery no matter what position you hold.

In terms of not understanding why he should resign ...... To me he is the Prez of the country. Now he must portray leadership charecteristics and traits. One of the PERSONAL QUALITIES that EVERY leader (whether born or developed) should possess is an examplary character.

It is of utmost importance that a leader is trustworthy to lead others. A leader needs to be trusted and be known to live their life with honestly and integrity. A good leader “walks the talk” and in doing so earns the right to have responsibility for others. True authority is born from respect for the good character and trustworthiness of the person who leads.

Green.arrow
10 Feb 2010 11:40

hm..all this benefits, some forfeit,some do not, some hold on to previous posts to keep hold of,...soo depressing to come to know, no wonder there is so much corruption in the gov...everyone wants a peice of the pie.....
No wonder the loyalists have each other's backs even when they screw up, to ensure that they all get something, talk about loyalty misplaced.... Sad thing is that the loyalists on the ground arent getting anything from keeping them up there....sad sad sad....

benefits!!!

Mathaz
10 Feb 2010 11:41

@FK.....I like the reasons you state for his call to resign but my argument has always been why you voted vor him knowing very well that he is a polygamist and it's not like at that time he only had 3 children with one wife. By voting for the ANC you automatically voted for Zuma coz he is their leader and there is no way the ANC would let him go...the guy is a unifier and the ANC knows very well that they won the election because they had him as their leader. The ANC has got much to lose should he step down.

The president's principles, norms, culture, attitude, beliefs and norms may vary from mine and yours and that should have been a wake up call to not vote for him. Yes, i like him as a person but as a leader, NO.

FK
10 Feb 2010 11:54

So true Mathaz - Im one those who voted him and yes, I knew about him being a polygamist.......... I thought hoped he will put getting more wives and kids on hold until his last term. But ALAS.

If you scroll up, I did vote for ANC and his face was on the ballot paper. Even if they had Juju's face there, I would still vote them.

Ja neh, lets just hope, I mean really hope (if not recalled) he will put his personal lifestyle on hold and run the country.

C A R I N O C A R I N O

C AAAAAAAA RRRRRRRIIIIIIIIII NOOOOOOOO.

I think we (Im) done. Let it rest.

carino
10 Feb 2010 12:30

Thank you

KeleFabulous
10 Feb 2010 13:48

next time he'll think twice before doing anything that might be viewed in a negative manner, if all respectable public figures can do that then so can he. plus his timing sucks. i don't think the headlines would have been so bad so soon after his very long walk to the presidency seat and esp so close to the world cup...

ms.tebby
10 Feb 2010 13:57

kwakwakwakwakwaaaaaa! Segololo you are bad girl...real bad...can u believe kgale ke sa bona Isidingo & i hoping to read about the real result! *sigh* I'm still ROTFLMYTSAO!!!!

Lex
10 Feb 2010 14:51

@ segololo,I also received the paternity test e-mail and I laughed so loud my colleagues just had to come see what it was I was laughing at.

I think jz should be shown the door,just so others can learn that as a leader you have to conduct yourself appropriately (I know appropriate can be different in our views)mara nnete ke gore ditshila ke ditshila irrispective of how you look at it.

Another e-mail that killed me is the one where he has the baby on his back at the State of the Nation Address.

myname
10 Feb 2010 15:04

Another e-mail that killed me is the one where he has the baby on his back at the State of the Nation Address.

he is CUTE lol, i saw that one Lex

Best-Achiever
10 Feb 2010 15:05

President Barack Obama with President Jacob Zuma on the phone about their dinner at the Unions building

Barack Obama: I’m sorry Jacob but dinner at the Union's building is out, I know we are friends but ...
.
Jacob Zuma: U don't like SA?

Barack Obama: No its not because I have a problem with SA, its just that I’ve got daughters and you know....., its nothing personal

Sips
10 Feb 2010 15:21

kwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwakwak......

Nonny
10 Feb 2010 15:43

I see nothing wrong with the cartoon.. it is an expression and satire... if it is too close to the truth, deal with it!
I agree sego, the reason people have a problem with Zapiro is because he is an honest cartoonist and he is not afraid of ANYONE!!! I love his cartoons, especially this one ka JZ netende elivukile as per normal....LOL

Phikza
10 Feb 2010 15:44

Ke kopa ho botsa hleng...where do you guys get these Zapiro pics/cartoons from?

myname
10 Feb 2010 15:58

Ke kopa ho botsa hleng...where do you guys get these Zapiro pics/cartoons from

Sunday Times Phikza.

@Nonny Wheeeeeee ntombazana yakwaZulu, wacabanga ukuthi mawusivakashele ngale mini sithetha ngetende lenkosi yethu.....ngivakala ngijabulile ukukubona, mnyaka omsha!

Now stop playing lo hide nalo seek, kunomuntu oko misisha like CRAZY.

I mis u dog! Touch my skin mpintshi yam!

Sori Carino.

Segololo
10 Feb 2010 16:46

ZUMA SAYS : -

Zuma was on a lekker holiday in Durbs. One day he heard from his friends
that there was a fancy dress ball, and he could go.

The dress theme was to symbolize a country. Unsure what to do, he hid in
a bush outside the hall and watched what was going on.

A woman arrived scantily dressed in a few feathers. When the doorman
asked what country she was she said " Turkey ", so he said, "Feathers,
Turkey, OK you can go in".

Another beautiful and shapely woman arrived clad only in a "G" string,
Her body smeared with oil. She said she was Iran. Oil, Iran " OK go
in.

So then Zuma sauntered up to the door naked except for a brown paper
packet placed over his manhood and said he was from Pakistan

The doorman could not understand and asked Zuma to explain:

"Bring daardie twee meisies uit, dan sal jy sien hoe hierdie pakkie staan!!!"

MAGNET2DISASTER
26 Oct 2010 11:52

poor man.some people are so disrespectful sometimes

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