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YOUR BEST FRIEND O BATLA JOLA LE WENA.....

Written by Kerrie from the blog Life is Good on 26 Jun 2012
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Your very best friend, guys for the ladies and ladies for the guys suddenly wants your friendship to become a relationship, o batla le jole, what would your reaction to that be? You have known that person for a very long time and you have been bosom buddies, tight and then they go and say this to you, hayikhona! Kana with a friend, you don't look at them as boyfriend material to you because you have come to love them as a sibling...........

One can be best friends with their partners but that friendship has to grow with the relationship; start with a relationship and become friends along the way because most of the times friendships come relationships never work, you lose both a best friend and a potential partner.........(just my opinion)........feel free to share yours......



69 Comments

Kerrie
26 Jun 2012 11:40

forgive my posting so many articles that are the same, it's my computer acting up! just choose one where we'll comment and ignore the rest.....

Kerrie
26 Jun 2012 11:40

forgive my posting so many articles that are the same, it's my computer acting up! just choose one where we'll comment and ignore the rest.....

Kerrie
26 Jun 2012 11:40

forgive my posting so many articles that are the same, it's my computer acting up! just choose one where we'll comment and ignore the rest.....

ayashah
02 Jul 2012 10:31

if ke mo rata ke tlo dumela akere i know his weakpoints and strong points

VusiK
02 Jul 2012 10:48

you don't look at them as boyfriend material to you because...

There lies your answer.

Personally, I would not date my friend, but the fact that I have no woman friends works well in this regard for me... friendships accross the sex line always lead to undesirable complications ... most definitely in my case, ... for me ... prevention is infinitely better than any cure.

ayashah
02 Jul 2012 10:31

if ke mo rata ke tlo dumela akere i know his weakpoints and strong points

VusiK
02 Jul 2012 10:48

you don't look at them as boyfriend material to you because...

There lies your answer.

Personally, I would not date my friend, but the fact that I have no woman friends works well in this regard for me... friendships accross the sex line always lead to undesirable complications ... most definitely in my case, ... for me ... prevention is infinitely better than any cure.

Sbam
02 Jul 2012 11:06

Akere they say in a relationship you have to be ur partner's best friend,  So that when love fades @ least u still have him/her as a friend.  Nna i think it can work, o rata your friend, so falling for him/her shouldn't  be that difficult.  
And let's face it not all love affairs started with two pple being crazy abt each ada, u sometimes learn to love the person, and I find that, that kinda of love lasts for a very long time, than "love @ first sight".  Old fashion YEBO, but nothing is Nu mo lefatsheng.

TVSA Team
02 Jul 2012 11:17

Hey Kerrie - we've deleted the other two identical articles for you so that there's no confusion.

ayashah
02 Jul 2012 10:31

if ke mo rata ke tlo dumela akere i know his weakpoints and strong points

VusiK
02 Jul 2012 10:48

you don't look at them as boyfriend material to you because...

There lies your answer.

Personally, I would not date my friend, but the fact that I have no woman friends works well in this regard for me... friendships accross the sex line always lead to undesirable complications ... most definitely in my case, ... for me ... prevention is infinitely better than any cure.

Sbam
02 Jul 2012 11:06

Akere they say in a relationship you have to be ur partner's best friend,  So that when love fades @ least u still have him/her as a friend.  Nna i think it can work, o rata your friend, so falling for him/her shouldn't  be that difficult.  
And let's face it not all love affairs started with two pple being crazy abt each ada, u sometimes learn to love the person, and I find that, that kinda of love lasts for a very long time, than "love @ first sight".  Old fashion YEBO, but nothing is Nu mo lefatsheng.

TVSA Team
02 Jul 2012 11:17

Hey Kerrie - we've deleted the other two identical articles for you so that there's no confusion.

zdwesha
03 Jul 2012 09:50

i have been there done that but we only dated 4 a month when we dicided 2 have sex , we ripped each adaz clothes, 4 play and condom andthen....... i stopped  i said " U KNW AFTER WE MAKE LOVE EVERYTHNG  IS GOING TO CHANGE, IM GOING TO LOSS A FRND AND HAVE A LOVER ANDTHEN WE R GOING TO BREAK UP AND I WILL LOSE U FOREVER?" he said "DO WE REALLY HAVE TO TALK ABT THIS NOW!!?. 

U knw what i did? 
I just took my clothes and ran naked to my car and he ccame the following day he " U WERE RYT"

zdwesha
03 Jul 2012 09:50

i have been there done that but we only dated 4 a month when we dicided 2 have sex , we ripped each adaz clothes, 4 play and condom andthen....... i stopped  i said " U KNW AFTER WE MAKE LOVE EVERYTHNG  IS GOING TO CHANGE, IM GOING TO LOSS A FRND AND HAVE A LOVER ANDTHEN WE R GOING TO BREAK UP AND I WILL LOSE U FOREVER?" he said "DO WE REALLY HAVE TO TALK ABT THIS NOW!!?. 

U knw what i did? 
I just took my clothes and ran naked to my car and he ccame the following day he " U WERE RYT"

Kerrie
23 Jul 2012 10:47

Thanks TVSAAdmin.

mna i prefer to differentiate between a friend and a lover, i can't have both in one person unless we dated first and gradually became friends, that way i'm cool with it! Once you start joling everything changes, it can be for the better or for the worse....
@Sbam, when love fades you won't have either,your friendship won't be the same ever again.....

ayashah
23 Jul 2012 10:59

hahahahaha zdwasha  u kiling me

caro
23 Jul 2012 11:21

hahahahahahahahaaaaa.... u guys are somethin else...kerrie go reng skeem sam? aya gal wena re tlo bua jampas... kerrie y o gossipa behind my bac le aya/?lmao.... 

nna i dated the guy .. we were close bt friends only at school.. we were doing grade 12 in the same school and class cn u belive it...thats until we passed and moved to differnt towns ( skolo) that looser got bac with his ex along the way ,,,, bt it was for the best cz they got married this year...maybe if he was still with me we still be dating ... u knw... bt am happy now... lol. i forgot to mention that he was romantic ...shoooo !!!!!!!! he can love completely ...# hides#

caro
23 Jul 2012 11:26

nn ai wud nt blink an eye twice ge ke mmatla i go for him .. js dt most of ma frnds (male)knws where to draw the line wen with me hey... they are crazy and we talk bout anyhing so its not easy for them to just get serios and be like ...u knw ...eh..eish ..ah .. i hav been DOING  some thinking .. lately ...ya and  eh.. NOOOOO.. nna ke jajarag ... il be like... ;WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING MFANAKA?  LMAO,,,

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 11:32

I won't ... No Way, No How
Point Finish ...
It does help that I do not have woman pals also.

caro
23 Jul 2012 11:36

but i am your friend VUVU ...would you not date me/ ##### hides### 

molo malume vusi

bosch
23 Jul 2012 11:57

hi guys,

A male friend of mine once tried to jola with me. i was soo mad at him. We are very close that he confides in me...i hook him up with gals..he cheats, i have seen him using gals and dump them..So, I knew how he treats his women.

My reaction was, who does he think i am?! like WTF!! Does he think i am one of those gals he uses and throws away. I was mad, felt so disrespected!!
Anyway, the anger went away...he apologised. so we are still friends.

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 11:57

When ke batla go Jola ... That is what I set out to do ... my mind is geared to run some things exclusively in their tracks ... no switching and changing.
That mission ... that person ...
Everyone else becomes excluded as a candidate.
I cannot imagine me and someone I consider a friend together romantically ...
Some things are impossible for me to wrap my mind around ...
for me ...
it is almost on the same level as looking at my friend or partner's woman (Before/ after is irrelevant) ...
some things are simply off limits for me, regardless of how delicious the idea of them could seem

Hello Caro ... It is because you are my friend that I would not ever consider dating you !
It is not that the situation never presented itself ... I like knowing which side of the bread to apply the butter always ...
and
friendship, should remain friendship.

it would never ever ever ever happen ...
 lol

Kerrie
23 Jul 2012 11:58

hey caro, i'm good thanx and how are you feeling? we wanted you to come back that's we talked about you..lol

caro, are you still friends with that guy? as for me and my male friends, we very close and they sometimes act as my bouncers when some guys don't want to take NO for an answer, hahaha......not because they want me for themselves but cos they know how to treat a lady!

VusiK, yindaba ungelabangani besimame?

Kerrie
23 Jul 2012 12:12

How can you solve this problem?

Can your partner be with your phone for a day and things remain the same?

One Friday morning,Boyce woke up hurriedly and prepared for work. He worked in a busy institution and was expected early at work. His wife Montle worked a distance from where her husband's office was.

As a result of doing things in a hurry, Boyce unknowingly, carried his wife's mobile phone leaving behind his own. After he had gone his wife Montle noticed the mix-up but it was too late for her to do anything about it. She thought for a while and decided to carry her husband's phone in case he came back for it.

On arriving at his place of work Boyce noticed that he had confused his wife's phone for his but decided not to go back for it. He sighed deeply because he knew his wife could access romantic messages sent by his many mistresses.
His wife too was disgusted because she had several toy boys.

Drama began to unfold when Boyce received an SMS intended for his wife sent by somebody saved as 'Peter-Taxi', which read, "Hi sweetie, hope yo mornin' is fine, for me am okay just mad! My love for you kills me. I couldn't stop dreaming about you even after we met last evening cos you hold the password to my heart." Boyce was shocked to see this and thought he understood why his wife had come home late the previous evening. He decided to stay numb to see what more would come.
After one hour he received another SMS from somebody saved as 'Susan-Salon' which read, "Moning darling, hope u are fine, am also fine but not so fine without seeing you next to me cos you control every part of ma heart. Nice day Ratu, see you at lunch."

The third SMS ticked in from somebody saved as 'Winnie-Handbags' which read, "Morning my beautiful queen, I wish you were a gum, I would chew you every time, you make me feel young like I was born yesterday, you without whom I would go on a hunger strike. Have a bright day my dear."

Boyce was deeply shocked by these messages but knew that on the other side his wife might be seeing drama too.
Meanwhile, Montle had seen even more than her husband. She had received three messages from three women that clearly showed they were his mistresses. The first SMS was from a woman saved as 'Sparklin Klean-Car wash' which read, "Hi deah how's ur morning? I am okay with ur son here, he says he loves you so much and you should come and stay with us.
good-day."

Montle almost fainted on seeing this because she could not believe that her husband had a son outside marriage.
Before her anger was over, she received a second SMS from'
'Omosh-Kinyozi' which read, "Morning ma dear, hope ur enjoyin ur day. Mine can't be complete without you. Every time I sleep in this house you bought 4 me I dream to love you always. The BM you bought me is perfect on road. Thanks, good-day."

The last message came from 'Karanja-Electrician' and read, "Sasa honey?
Hope you are fine. please i am not happy wit you, you promised to send me money since last week,But i have not seen it. honey please send me the 40k for the project. Have a nice day, love you big."

Montle had found the answer to why her husband was always penniless!
When evening came Boyce and Montle met at home. They could hardly talk but only stared at one another with suspicion.

Then they called you to intervene, sincerely how would you solve their problem?

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 12:17

@Kerrie

It is the same with men  also ... I do not keep male friends either ... My biggest business partner is the only new entrant I call friend ... after five years on learning one another.
I am one of those people who is very demanding of the standards I place in my demand list of what a friend is.

But since we are talking women ...

... Synergy ... Women fail the requisite Synergies with me.

It never lasts ... I think they are fickle / or play the fickle card too often.
It never ends well ... Drama at some point is guaranteed.
They love talking other people's business ... HUGE No-No for me.

I do not understand them ...
I do not try to understand them
Don't wish to to understand them

Women are too complicated for me ...
For friendship / relationships to exist for me ...

There must first be a meeting of minds and common thought on certain things.
I do not realise these synergies with women.... So .. I don't bother relating to them in my life space.
Women and relating to them take greater effort and energy than I can allocate to something casual.... consequently ... it is not an investment worth me having.

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 12:22

I would say ...

The problem between the two of you is too much time to waste, and too much money to waste.
Go home, have an honest talk, and leave me alone.

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 12:26

@Caro ...

A Fowl can never turn into a Fish.

Kerrie
23 Jul 2012 12:29

so VusiK, when you feel like hanging out with amajita, wenzakanjani, who do you call?
you don't necessarily have to be BFFs with that person, atleast have somebody you can call your friend......

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 12:48

I have about five or six people scattered all over the planet I can call and visit with.

I do go hangout with the homeboys at the corner eLokishini for a few minutes for appearance sake ... we have ZERO in common ... and none will pretend (We recognise and acknowledge our differences ... no attempt has ever been made to build a bridge)... they are about the township street talk, the girls, last night, and other people's cars and money .... That is not me ... I'll drink my coldrink, or tea, hang, talk some crap and say bye !

My real close circle always comes visit at home, or at my house ... and most of the time ... we sit, enjoy the weather ... and don't even talk ... just us, space, time, life ... and it works ....

Most important ... it says ... "I missed you ... I left home to be here ... and until I go back home ... This is where I want to be"
That .. for me will carry more value than anything anyone else can try to impress me with ...
Besides ...The average person is absolutely terrified of silence ... I relish it.

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 12:51

I ONLY socialise within my family's circles ... mostly ONLY with people we grew up with.
if there are more strangers than familiars ... I will not attend, or I will leave immediately after dinner.

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 13:02

People are generally dishonest
With themselves
To themselves
About themselves ..

Who the heck am I to expect them to greet my honesty with a reciprocal honesty?

So ... I live for my career ...
It is the only thing that will not respond to me with agenda

Ms. Tebby (Who is a friend for me) once asked me why I work a 20 hour day ...My response was terrse as usual "Because my career and work is the only thing that can never fail me ... only I can fail it.
Only two things are guaranteed not to disappoint my life ...
The support of my family, and
My work"

caro
23 Jul 2012 13:05

@Vusi   lmao @Kerrie we were until he added me ko facebook a while ago and started his mangamanga *bleep!* with me and i blocked hi stupid a***s outta ma frnd list...  and that was it until i heard he was getting hooked... the wedding took place not far from where i stay bt i didnt see anything since i was awaty on training that weekend and when i came bc on sunday i attended a baby shower in town the whiole day...by the time i made it home .... evrybody had vanished

mangqezu
23 Jul 2012 13:40

My uncomfortable situation is an ex colleague whom at some point peeps at work tht I was dating becos we were very close, I treat him like a bro so because he's not bedding material in my books but my colleagues think otherwise about his feelings for me, he got married recently and he called me on his honeymoon like wtf that's when I decided to slowly detach from him I really dont want to be a thorn in another woman's heart bo shame but the guy wont budge. He's neva proposed love to me though but I'm really starting to question his actions.

Kerrie
23 Jul 2012 13:50

you see caro, that's what i mean when i say things change, before you jolad he would have not said anything ill about on public like that, if there's anything you doing and a friend doesn't like it, they come talk to you about it not on a social network, if they talk about you on a social network you know all is lost!

VusiK, i respect your decision! mna i like impintsi zam,i like hanging out and talking too much but whatever you say, don't start talking about other people, we focus on ourselves! we can talk about our men yes but nothing personal since that stays under the sheets when we get up in the morning! i like having fun, with my friends.......

VusiK
23 Jul 2012 14:14

... for me ...

THIS right here !

is as far as I am willing to extend me socially.

zdwesha
23 Jul 2012 14:51

halo halo halo 

@AYA i c u r loling @ me lol but i couldnt afford to loose a frnd to a lover tltltltltlt it was gonna cost me the sh!t we talk, the laughs we can't stop, the gossip we spill,
watching each other's back,spilling the tears more and more......................
 



MsBots
23 Jul 2012 15:00

I guess it depends, if you make it your rule to dating then you cant go on and break your own rule but it worked beautifully for me.
If the guy is great, why not?

ayashah
23 Jul 2012 15:29


hohohohoho guys please stop  it  a little bit and give me a break to lough, 
 

hahahahahahahahahahahahaa am dead shame tltltl am loling at all your comments roling on the floor with 1 leg up haha am just imagining you zdwesha ,   caro you are the craziest, tltltl  o rata ditaba  ngwaneso who was talking behind your back hahah ay you made my day


A Fowl can never turn into a Fish. hahahaha even thou they both start with an "f" lmao

you may continue

caro
24 Jul 2012 15:00

@kerrie he did nt say anything bad, he ws just always in my inbox a nyaka loaf brown and nna my loyalty already lies somewhere else with somebody else.. so i blocked him...

VusiK
24 Jul 2012 15:05

a nyaka loaf brown mo-wena bjang?

Kerrie
24 Jul 2012 15:17

caro, what do you mean ne a nyaka loaf brown wena?
aya, wena uyahlanya uyazi nje.....

ayashah
25 Jul 2012 08:08

hahaha loling at loaf-brown caro wa gafa
aw kerrie ndi ya hlany a we a wa hlanyisiza HAHAHaaa fmao thats zulu of the zuluest ( am crazy youthe craziest) kweeeeeeeeeeee

zdwesha
25 Jul 2012 08:21

loaf brown? cacisa mfazi asikuva 
explain lady we dont understand

caro
25 Jul 2012 11:00

lol kerrie..and VUVU. LB - loaf brown- love back gottch "ya

JuneRose
25 Jul 2012 11:06

Hi good people

@ Kerri - for me I don't think I can have a romantic relationship with someone I call a friend, the answer will be a big NO to him. Since you don't see him as a boyfriend type then tell him No. Finish!

@ Vusi - My real close circle always comes visit at home, or at my house ... and most of the time ... we sit, enjoy the weather ... and don't even talk ... just us, space, time, life ... and it works ....

Most important ... it says ... "I missed you ... I left home to be here ... and until I go back home ... This is where I want to be"
That .. for me will carry more value than anything anyone else can try to impress me with ...
Besides ...The average person is absolutely terrified of silence ... I relish it. - How I wish my  circle of friends could one day understand this kind of relationship/friendship, where one will sit with her friends watch tv in silence or chill without anyone lying to each other or talking about other people's businesses but still maintain that little chat.  And I've tried to fit into these kinds of relationship/s where we will want other people's business become the centre of our conversation/s, but came to realise that this is not me and now I'm being seen as an arrogant person, judgmental, self-centered but I'm ok with it.

VusiK
25 Jul 2012 11:17

@Caro .... That is not a friend ... that is an EX ... Ex be damned, they all burned their chances, and should simply keep stepping!
I don't entertain di Loaf-Brown , lol ... Keep Stepping, cause I'm stepping also.

@JuneRose .... Eish ... People's perception of arrogance is subjective ... immediately one's expectations change or are raised beyond what was ... one is considered arrogant ... Live for you ... after all, you are not five anymore, and your needs are not those of a five year old ... be brave enough to leave those behind, who evolve slower than you ...
It is called attrition.

Kerrie
25 Jul 2012 11:22

hahaha, caro, i was lost, LB..hahaha

June, when i don't want to talk, i chill alone, watch TV,movie or read a novel! when i hook up with my tshomis is when i want to have fun and they are also up to having fun, we don't bring other people into our conversation! we only talk about other people when for example, i tell caro that aya is going through something and she needs our help, we talk about her trying to find ways of helping her #lotsa love caro and aya, my guineapigs#. they can call you names as long s you know that what you are doing is good and harmless never mind them....

JadaPinkett
25 Jul 2012 11:57

I neva dated a guy who is a frnd of mine bt I wudn't blame abajolananayo afta they've been frndz coz basuke sebazana kancono en being in a relationship nomuntu omazi kahle is gud ..........if u thnk u thnk m crazy then why everytym umfana eqala ukukbona ethi uyakthanda uthi i cnt love u coz angikakwazi kahle i still need tym to knw u.............. so if u love dat so called frnd y not...........

caro
25 Jul 2012 12:07

@vusi  we were once frnds before we became lovers, bt he is part of may past ,yet still there is a reason y my past can never make it to my future.


June, when i don't want to talk, i chill alone, watch TV,movie or read a novel! when i hook up with my tshomis is when i want to have fun and they are also up to having fun, we don't bring other people into our conversation!
only this tym time my name was in the sms...lol so china wt was it doing there?

JuneRose
25 Jul 2012 12:08

Kerrie I do understand the conversation you are talking about. But I'm talking about where, for instance,  you'll find yourself needing a space or you want to chill at home and watch movies but there will be a knock on the door and I'm not going to tell her yhoo mngani I just need my space because with people when you try to be honest they will be telling you ukuthi uyazitshela or you don't want them to visit you blah blah and only to find out that person is there just to tell you about what a b*t*ch Nkuli* is or they way Nkuli afeba ngakhona, not realising that she should be focusing in her life rather than living nkuli's one, what nkuli is doing with her life it's none of her business, and there those who make it a habit to compare their life with others. This is the kind of person I'm talking about.

Male friends bona I wash my hands because most of them we will be friends but it wont just end there or must I say they don't know where to draw a line they will end up asking you for a romantic relationship. Suddenly they see you as a marriage type, I just hate it when a person sees me a marriage type. Nx.

caro
25 Jul 2012 12:28

hahahaha u ya ngi bulala xa June rose.. marriage type.. ul find gore ur well- mannered and the guy ge a go bona he js melts..phela they dnt like us the talkative ones.. ba batla lona ba imametseng, speaks wen ur spoken to..and so on..

Kerrie
25 Jul 2012 12:30

haha, hayi wena caro, read the sms again and you'll see why your name appears on it!

i think my friends and i understand each other, when we hooking up for a weekend or something, we make plans well in advance and we know how to respect each others sanctuary if there are no plans.

i've been housemates with a guy before, for close to 3 years if not more, we are friends, we've never considered a romantic r/ship, not even once and people were wondering how we do it and others never believed us when we said we're just friends! he is like a brother to me and vice versa, his girlfriend was my best friend....

ayashah
25 Jul 2012 12:33

only this tym time my name was in the sms...lol so china wt was it doing there
eban the sms goes like this aya,how are you i can see caro is betternow,she been blogging didn't have to ask though! you see why your name is ther?  

we discuss our own ditaba not tsa bato she was just concern of your health just that .....

VusiK
25 Jul 2012 12:40

@Caro ... It is not like you to cop-out...
Once you were friends? kaak man ! you stopped being friends galeJola and became Lovers ... so the most recent is what applies ... He's not your friend ... ke-EX

To him you're not his friend ...
you're his EX ...
obatla bjang LB koTjoming?
You stopped being his Pal dude ...
Your'e his EX

VusiK
25 Jul 2012 12:43

I am so blessed ...
No women who are Friends.
All women who are close to me are family.
Keeps life VERY simple.

Thibi
25 Jul 2012 12:49

@ JuneRose, sitting at home and doing NOTHING never bothered me. It is who I am and enjoy it. Functions I go if I want to...

Most people even complain that I don't call them...as if they do. I never complained or mourn about people not calling me. Less I know most of heir stuff the better.

I can relate to you_but I am going to see John Legend next month.

caro
25 Jul 2012 14:36

we discuss our own ditaba not tsa bato she was just concern of your health just that .....


keep lying ke tlaa go kreya ko ntlung... kerrie wena passop...

caro
25 Jul 2012 14:42

@VUsi He's not your friend ... ke-EX 

my point and if you look at my response ul catch ma drift...Monday, July 23, 2012 11:21 AM

VusiK
25 Jul 2012 14:46

Warebethella bjanong !

Yini sengathi ungumashaya nje Caro?!?

PamelaQ
25 Jul 2012 14:54

#Off Topic
I had to log in because I have this dilemma at work and need advice.

I work for a small company and I found out that the 2 previous people who were working here before me, same position...earned more than what i'm getting. I'm talking same position, same qualifications, same duties, experience etc. I earn so liitle that i'm even ashamed to say how much. I've neen working here for a year already and I was never given a contract or a letter of appointment to sign.

Although i'm not worried much about the contract thing because I know that will work in my favour when i resign, I will be able to leave immediately without serving a notice period which is what i like. How should I handle this one.

Kerrie
25 Jul 2012 14:55

aya, umaucaro ekoshaya, ungishayele ucingo,will come sort her out....hahaha...
was just concerned about your health my china, the way you explained it, the pain must have been excruciating, can only imagine! i'm glad you are better now and se u batla go trapa nna le aya...lol

ayashah
25 Jul 2012 15:06

caro wa gafa i gave her my own medical aid now that she's owk o batla go trapa hahahah

ngizoku shayela ucingo kerrie but dnt come with "that" gun, i dnt wnt her dead.....

ayashah
25 Jul 2012 15:22

@ pamela q i dnt know wat to say to you just keep om applying in some organisation, 1. you working i an organisation for which you didnt sign any contract e.g if you may come to work one day  and  they dismiss you you are not going top report anywher coz you dnt have any prove of appointment, every employee in an organisation must sign his/ her contract

2. you  got qualificatio but earning less.. just try to apply somewhere where your qualification will be valued  thats my opnion love guys lets help pamelaq hle
 

Dhee
25 Jul 2012 15:32

@ pamela Are you permanent in this company because you were suppose to ask them about all those things when they made you permanet like when they started deducting things like boUIF, provident n pension funds.

If not i think thats where you should start.

Kerrie
25 Jul 2012 15:40

take them to task Pamela, ask them to confirm your position in their company, they shouldn't be doing that to you and do a research to find out how much people with your qualification and experience earn in the position you are holding!

i'll leave my "gun" behind aya, i need her alive as well, we'll just give her physio...lol

mangqezu
25 Jul 2012 15:40

@ PamelaQ ur predecessors' salaries have nothing to do with ur employment unfortunately. Nowhere in the Labour Act does it oblige an employer to pay the same wages for current and previous employees for the same position.

U were interviewed , agreed on ur pay with ur employers and that's that and I'm assuming u were ok with that until u started digging and found that others earned more than u which is now depressing u.

If u want to have a permanent employment contract then ask for one but never imagine going to negotiate ur salary based on ur predecessors' earnings. U need to prove why u feel u deserve to be earning that much.

To start of did u obtain that information legitimately becos I'm sure somewhere u would have been made to sign some confidentiality agreement about information that you become aware of in your line of work  that you can't just disclose as u wish. 

Go and negotiate for a raise if u still not happy then I suggest u look elsewhere.

JadaPinkett
25 Jul 2012 15:41

@Pamela ...........Love u have to stand for yourself and ask for a letter of appointment, those ppl r taking an advantage of u ..u don deserve  dat nobody deserve to be treated dat way coz if anything can  happens to u @work the company won't be responsible for it since u like somethng dat doesn't even exist to the company.......dat keep me wondering if u even get u get ur payslip or even registered for company benefits, like Provident fund incase they fire u so u will have cash keep u going while u looking for another job.

I think you must start and speak to your manager about or HR Department.

VusiK
25 Jul 2012 18:24

There is nothing Pamela can do about it AFTER she signs an employment contract.

Period.

She can resign, and look for other employment if that is her inclination and choice.
or
She can stick with this work and earnings, and have an unhappy career.

next time you go shopping for a job ... pay for a pay-scale analysis, or use a remuneration consultant.

www.payscale.com, ... there could be a .co.za domain also by now.


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