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Words And Language

Written by Segololo from the blog Oh Moments on 03 Dec 2007
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As I listened to Jenny Crwys-Williams (radio 702) on Monday (26/11/2007); I really wondered how much crucifixion of a language has happened in South Africa with all the other unregistered, or rather unofficial, languages.

Jenny started the show by explaining the “nice” Joburg weather we had and went on to say “I am wearing a jersey! Uurgh! I hate that word!” She then opened the phone lines for people to mention words that irritate them as she just hates the word "Jersey".

I had a long list… I tend to consider myself a “good English speaking person”. Yeah right! I even use the words that irritate me, but I get irritated when others use them. Go figure!

The top words that just irritate me and “tug at my nipple” (Thanks, Untouchable Lerato)

Kids – Why the hell do we refer to our children as “Kids”. I used to have this Rastafarian frind, Gaby, he hated the words so much whenever someone said it, and he would simply say “People have Children. Goats have Kids”

Probe – Everything in the newspapers is “probed”. What happened to “investigation”?

Knocked up – Where and how did this term form part of correct speak?

Skat – Just like WhiteSockGirl – Say my name! Say my name! Wat is a skat?

Anyways, we have 11 official languages – some people speak all 11, yes! There’s a dude at work that speaks 13 languages – He speaks the 11 South African Official languages, Fanakalo and Tsotsitaal. Tsotsitaal is a language whether we want to acknowledge it or not! Our Oupas still speak the language and pride themselves that we can’t hear what they say.

I know there’s a huge debate around Fanakalo as a language but mineworkers use it. It may not be a very respectful way of communication. It has a lot of deregotary terms that were deduced from the same 11 or more languages we use in South Africa. So what’s the fuss? I am an inquisitive person that would love to know the history of this language…

So, what are the words that make you see blue, red and green when you hear them?
What words do people use so much you are ready to offer an alternative word?

143 Comments

mayo
03 Dec 2007 11:17

well segololo there u go first to reply!!! yipee well let me read the article!!

Meme J
03 Dec 2007 12:22

Now this is a topic really close to my heart! U wouldn't believe how many books I have on words and language :) .......... Totally with you on goats and kids. It's an example I use often in the newsroom .......... OK, probe: in journalism, short words for headlines are imperative, and investigation just swallows up too much space. It's a very accepted term in the corruption lexicon. .......... Knocked up: a NO NO. ::::::::: Words that make me see RED: learners ... aaaaaagh! IT'S pupils or students. .......... Any NGO speak, or gobbledygook, like stakeholders, and paradigms, and development tools, and legitimate players get me out of here :) .......... And a term I hate with a passion is 'at this moment in time'. BAN it!! If it's happening now, it's happening now. Totally extraneous. .......... Skat, it's an Afrikaans form for endearment like 'sweetie'.

Brown Shuga
03 Dec 2007 12:36

Infrastructure!!!! I swear that word was invented in 1994!!

mayo
03 Dec 2007 12:44

lol @ Shushu hayi wena !!!

WhiteSockGirl
03 Dec 2007 14:11

Any NGO speak, or gobbledygook, like stakeholders, and paradigms, and development tools, and legitimate players get me out of here :)

As one of the stakeholders in the NGO community, at this moment in time,.... hiehiehie..... A new one... 'unpack' the report....... what does it mean??

Accronyms! Hate them. I cannot read the NGO reports because of the accronyms so no way I am going to 'unpack' it. I am going to tear it up... so much easier

Meme J
03 Dec 2007 14:26

Hey WSG, skattie [ :)(: ] !!!! Couldn't resist a riposte to your moment in time. But please note I haven't used skat!! Unpack the report??? Maybe unravel the gobbledy gook? Ha, ha! Possibly break it down for action? Possibly get rid of it like a hot potato? ... Now if they were talking about unpacking the boxer briefs, we'd all know what they meant!! ::::::: It's kind of OK, I guess, if NGOs use NGO speak, if they're speaking NGO to NGO 2 GO. .......... BUT what I HATE, is when a journalist doesn't 'unpack' the language in their report; you ask them 'what does this paragraph mean? I don't get it'. And they reply, 'I don't know, it's what it says in the statement'!!! Boy, do I get ready to unpack ...... :) :)

WhiteSockGirl
03 Dec 2007 14:37

Oh Gaaaddddd skat.. let me 'unpack' the reason behind the NGO talk for you. They have no f****n idea what it all means. It is all 'window dressing' talk... another one that gets my tits all pointy.

Meme J
03 Dec 2007 14:47

Like the less u understand, the less u have to do?!!!!! Not u personally :) .......... Read this and weep :::: 'it came at a time when everyone needed to work towards comprehensive prevention and protection of mechanisms at community levels'. :::: From a reporter, yes! And, no, no, no, it did not make it into the newspaper!

WhiteSockGirl
03 Dec 2007 15:06

Too much for my three brain cells... what does it mean? But if it that comes from a reporter,... I have hope for my 'stakeholders'.

Like the less u understand, the less u have to do?!!!!! Not u personally :) ..........
may be .... but may be not! Hiehiehie... will have to ask my colleagues if it applies to me.

I will have to endure that gobbledy gook for the next 4 days! Only alcohol will get me through the next 4 days!

sweetie my baby
03 Dec 2007 22:11

nice Sego! words i hate, coz they're just overused/abused...

'stunning' - (aaaaaaaaargh) people will use this in response to hearing that their car service actually cost R2000 less than they anticipated - then turn around and use it to describe how you looked at your fabulously best.... WHY??????

the next one is more a phrase, not a word- and butchered with no shame 'make a follow-up' - no , you don't MAKE a follow up.... just blerry well FOLLOW UP!!!

telephonic conversation - there's actually no such word as 'telephonic'.

FANAKALO - a terrible bastardisation of languages - i hate it coz it's a language of commands and instructions (all disrespectful) from white bosses to black labour. that's the sole purpose of the language, and why it's not given any respect or regard in our beloved democratic society....

on another note, can that horrendous pic of linda sibiya to my right be removed, pleeeeeeeease????? those pink speedo's give me nightmares - and the man-boobs... crikey!!!

sponono
04 Dec 2007 00:22

transformation & transparency ....these are politicians and SRC's favourite words and irritates the hell out of me
WSG..yes about that "stakeholders" yerrr

sponono
04 Dec 2007 00:24

revolutionarised ...woo eh eh

"But then came along vocalist Ringo Madlingozi, who revolutionarised the whole mentality and attitude towards romantic Xhosa-generated melodies."

sponono
04 Dec 2007 00:38

oh here's another one we really overused in our study group...
"over and above"

Toxic
04 Dec 2007 00:42

whatsoever........of which........in a manner of speaking......!!!!!

andi01
04 Dec 2007 00:45

The phrase that pisses me off is cousin sister or cousin brother, what the heck is that a cousin is just a cousin, then one just says she/ he.
fanakalo- my grandfather once told me that fanakalo was a language used in mines by workers for easy understanding bcoz the workers were a group of (xhosa, zulu, sotho, tswana, sazwi, venda, tsonga, ndebele, pedi), so they created one language that had a word/ two from each of those languages, because it is not easy for i.e a xhosa to understand pedi fast.

sponono
04 Dec 2007 00:52

last of last year

at the end of the day

with all due respect

at this point in time

in as much as

belz
04 Dec 2007 00:57

you know - half the time when people say this, i really dont know.
absolutely - my manager uses this word in the most inappropriate way it disgusts me.

andi01
04 Dec 2007 00:58

Actually

Toxic
04 Dec 2007 00:59

God forbid!!!!!!

Toxic
04 Dec 2007 01:04

In my own opinion (like who else's opinion would be yours?????)

spice
04 Dec 2007 01:07

Stuff
Yeah that is sum good stuff
Go shopping and stuff
stuff stuff stuff what exactly is stuff

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 01:08

"grassroots level"

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 01:10

whereby
henceforth
bywhich
inasmuch as

sponono
04 Dec 2007 01:14

awesome...for anywthing..whether its good or bad..just awesome

first and foremost.....OR first of all.....darkies love this expression

sponono
04 Dec 2007 01:15

Spice ...I like using that word..hawu please odnt ban it...and stuff...hi hi hi

sponono
04 Dec 2007 01:18

"Having said that ...I would also like to say..."...or with that being said
WTF...we know what you said we were listening

Renegade
04 Dec 2007 01:23

Tsho Sponono, u hit the nail on the head with transformation and transparency, my goodness, thats all the SRC's ever say! It got so bad when i was in varsity, that transformation became nothing but a manifesto...when it is in fact such an important aspect of higher education.

And i hate it when someone uses a double negative, eg: I didn't do nothing, When they should say " I did nothing" or "I didn't do anything"...geez man!

Oh, and everytime that SABC 1 guy, i think his name is Fezile, introduces "the bold and the beautiful", he say "Glitz and glamour" He says it everytime without fail, he's put me off that phrase forever

belz
04 Dec 2007 01:27

you are right renegade yesses that Fezile guy really makes me wanna pull my hair each time he says that., yerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

spice
04 Dec 2007 01:28

XC for heaven 's sake leave zola alone pls

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 01:35

Darn. Caught out!

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 01:37

Sponono wrote: " ... first of all"

And some people even say "first FOR all." Heeeee heeeee!

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 01:42

Guys, mna I have no problem with the word/people saying the word "stuff". As long as they dont say "staff" when they actually MEAN "stuff"

I hate it when oodarkie 'roll' English nge force. I LOL-ed the one day walking being these other black chicks berola in town. Athi omunye :
" De-heee, its or- viyars."

Translation: "Duh, its obvious."
Hayi kengoku! Where is the letter R is the word obvious? Why kufuneka umntu ajije ulwini for every single word? Puhleese.

Pebbles
04 Dec 2007 01:48

The words that gets in to me are you know what are mean...hell!!!!!! people must stop it now...
the other phrase/words that i dislike when someone asks "are you sure " and it's even worse when they ask you for the second time..then i'll feel like screaming...WTF DID YOU ASK

spice
04 Dec 2007 01:49

ROTFL @ XC
the things is
thing is
oh plizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

WhiteSockGirl
04 Dec 2007 01:50

'Honestly speaking'?????? Meaning, all the other times you are not honest?

andi01
04 Dec 2007 01:52

De-heee, its or- viyars."

Translation: "Duh, its obvious, LOL @ xHOSA CHICK, THATS A CLASSIC

spice
04 Dec 2007 01:55

Hai you killed me XC Im trying to say it out loud and i'm laughing my ass off

andi01
04 Dec 2007 01:57

I was the secretary of the SACP in my community and quit bcoz the president always said, we need to improvise so that we can get the platform, coz the bottom line is we need a platform to fight against the rights of this organisation. and that was the president, what does that say about our organisation

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 01:57

Heeee, on Yo Tv some yrs back there were some unknowns on the show. Athi umnye kwii shout outs zakhe: " Im thenks to my mara, Im thenks to my fara, I say Im thenks, thenks, thenks to eeeeeeeevribodi."

Translation: Thanks to my mother, thanks to my father, I thank everybody."

Pebbles
04 Dec 2007 01:59

lol @" De-heee, its or- viyars."- it sounds like French hehheheh

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 01:59

Yeerrrr, here's one that gets me all the time: "I like to say hi to my friend......."

It's I'D like to say... not I like to say.

Msoe
04 Dec 2007 02:00

AMEN to that XC-! This rolling of ulwimi kills me. Guys how irritating is the words

1. Doll
2. Madam
3. Babygal (futhi ke ngathi o-brotherz baselokishini basanda kulizwa leligama, futhi abaseMlazi ngathi bayabukisa)
4. You know what i mean (HELL NO! I DONT, WAT THE F*CK YOU MEAN)
5. Y'll know what i'm saying? whyuuuu

monchooza
04 Dec 2007 02:00

mina i just hate when somebody says to me "wuuu shem"

Yuri
04 Dec 2007 02:02

Be that as it may

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 02:06

The unknowns ke (ive told u guys the story before) had to give out a number for people to call/sms or whatever it was for. There were three guys, and the number was 083 913 3007.

Guy 1: Oh, eyt, thhhri
Guy 2: Nayn, wan, tri (as in, the English 'tree')
Guy 3 (in a loud Bass): KHRI, oh, oh, seveeeehn!

Yuri
04 Dec 2007 02:07

Someone used this in their voicemail. " Sorry i am not available to take your call at this juncture, be that as it may..." This was one daddy o achievile that fancied my cousin, she made me listen when i recovered from the fit of laughter is said aikhona!

spice
04 Dec 2007 02:07

Msoe Dollllllllllll who calls you Doll LOL
Madam my X boyfie used to call me that and I would scream everytime he said it ,come to think of it i dont think he even knew my name

Yuri
04 Dec 2007 02:08

i not is, sorry

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 02:11

Msoe mentioned the word: "Babygal"
True that yazi. Yeses, and i have a friend that calls everyone (even me) Babydoll. So irritating. And ke, she says it Xhosa-lised (even worse) And says : Bheybhidoooohl.

Yuri wrote: "Be that as it may."
nkos'yam! (shaking my head)

Toxic
04 Dec 2007 02:12

Please note:

Borrow from
Lend to

Never say please lend me your book OR i borrowed it to.....

Msoe
04 Dec 2007 02:15

eyi wena XC uyangiqeda......

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 02:22

Guys, I dont mean to be disrespectful ne, but some people, when they PRAY, bathong! LOL. In English! Yhoooo

"Loht." (that means 'Lord' to me and you)
" We come to you at this juncture, weak, and heavy laiden, my gaaaaad. Embrace us, anoint us my gaaaaad. How awsam you are oh Loht. Our tshildreeen, are in these draaaahgs, abuzing alkhohol my gaaad, give us hiling oh my Loht ....."

myname
04 Dec 2007 02:28

he he he he he he ndiwasebenzisa onke Babygil

Honeypot
04 Dec 2007 02:31

One thing I hate the most about some darkies,is when they can't pronounce their names or last names properly. Like the other day, a lady call our office and she said her surname is Tshlovu instead of Ndlovu. That irritates the S#!t out of me. Or someone saying her name is IMbali instead of Mbali, Hayi ke leyo iyangihlanyisa.

zozozo
04 Dec 2007 02:32

LOL @ XC- gal where did u get all this stuff, uyandihlekisa yazi, uke uve umntu athatndaze nge -English, kodwa lomntu akakwazi nokuzicelela umsebenzi nge-English.

zozozo
04 Dec 2007 02:35

spelling error- ndifunukuthi " athandaze"

lepogo
04 Dec 2007 02:36

Grassroots level ;Implementation;Turnkey Projects; Kind regards;Bigger picture;Deliverables...I can go on and on,but Im not sure if this will filter through to the grassroot level....

Now these words grate my carrot!!!!!!!

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 02:36

Tshisa mpama at those people Honeypot. I feel you. "Imbahli" Heeee heee! I would laugh at that person mna

andi01
04 Dec 2007 02:38

One famous kwaito singer presenting an award, " I m gonna present de de nominations, yu nam se , end de winner goes to"

yu nam se=(you know what I am saying)

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 02:43

Heeeee heeee. Mxxxm. Kwaito stars, and soccer players! Whoooo-weeee!

andi01
04 Dec 2007 02:43

only sea-true cogate allowed in the cells= only see-through toothpaste allowed inside the cells. (in Pollsmoor prison)

Segololo
04 Dec 2007 02:43

wuu shem, Mooncho!

andi01
04 Dec 2007 02:46

My late uncle a former boxer, his motivational words (may his soul rest in peace)
"tigers dont cry, cry by mistake"= "amaqhawe akakhali ayanyamezela"

sponono
04 Dec 2007 02:48

Be that as it may ...he he he he he what would you make of this statement
we nee to transform the instutions and do away with the injustices/imbalances of the past in advocating transparency because at this point in time our constituency demands that we revolutionirise our ideologies to mobilise our mandate and in as much as the infrustructure is condusive to transformation, at the end of the day we need to empower the grass rootslevel of the emerging communities by thinking outside the box and pushing the envelope, by involving all stakeholders.

sounds very powerfull....mmmhhh Mr Mbalula are you taking notes for your next applause-deserving speech.....hopefully no one will ask you to clrify this after the applause LOL....

belz
04 Dec 2007 02:48

IMbali instead of Mbali > LMAO

zazalicious
04 Dec 2007 02:49

hayi-bo XC uyandiqeda hihihihihi ungenwe yini

sponono
04 Dec 2007 02:50

wuu shem moonchoo awume kancane thats a Durbanite key phrase...hi hi hi
but for now I'm stuck with that "uyoy'sholo wena shem" all over the township until that song is done with...shuuu!!!

belz
04 Dec 2007 02:50

Spo, i've read that 3 times, doesn't make sense at all!

andi01
04 Dec 2007 02:54

Some of the Xhosa direct translations, i am sure most of you have heard them before, they are the phrases we hear almost daily, i therefore declare that the following phrase are not of my own work/ thoghts, but a collection of what most of you have heard before.

Mhlalingaphambili
Mr sitting before
Ndiyawucaphukela lomkhwa walamantombazana
I hate the attendance of these girls
Ayazidla
They eat themselves
Ndinomoya wokuthi
I have a wind to say
Bantu basemhlabeni
People of the soil
Sanukusihlaza
Don't ever green us
Singumgubo wengxowa enye
We are the mealie-mealie of the same bag
Ndikhumbula balana
I remember a little ground
Xa ndandiphiphiphi
When I was where! where! where!
Ndabona amagatyana amadoda amabini
I saw two Willowvale men
Ayesilwa ngoqhoqhoqho wenkomo
They were fighting for always always always of a cow
Enye indoda yayi rhini-rhini ligazi
One man was Grahamstown Grahamstown by the blood
Yazi gquma ngebhayi
He covered himself with Port Elizabeth
Enye indoda yaya kuMantyi
One men go to the basket
uMantyi wathi
Basket said
Aluhlanga lungehlanga...........
It didn't go down before going down

belz
04 Dec 2007 02:58

agent instead of urgent, hayi shem odarkie sometimes.

sponono
04 Dec 2007 02:58

Belz...it doesnt make sense but thats how they play these overused words in one long paragraph and get a resounding applause and nobody asks ..now Fikile what were you on about..LOL

sweetie my baby
04 Dec 2007 03:04

LOL @ ANDI01, girl i am LOVING you right now, you lit up my tuesday morning with these gems...

Mhlalingaphambili
Mr sitting before

Ndinomoya wokuthi - my FAVOURITE!!!
I have a wind to say

on a serious note, i have to sit down with you one day, and just listen to you talk about your fascinating life.... you were the secratary of the SACP in your area???? all that plus the other stuff you've posted about your life... bloggers are some incredibly interesting folk, serious!!!

sponono
04 Dec 2007 03:06

reminds me of the joke about how politicians express ideas that end up sounding like another promise

                    at the community meeting
Politician"ehh macromrades uhulumeni uzonakhela izindlu...."

Community "yeeeeeeeahhhhh   amandla...yeeeahhhhhh....phambili nokhongolose"...(and some of them start to leave the hall)

politician     "............zangasese"

by the time he's finished his sentence the hall is half empty with rumors about houses that will be built for them...when he actually said they'll get toilets built for them...if only he had spoken properly instead of trying to drum up an applause...

Msoe
04 Dec 2007 03:15

Ya Sponono i know that one, wat about the Mandela speech:

*WITH THE MANDELA VOICE"

"UKUTHI NDIZONAKHELA IZINDLU.......NDA.....NDI....ZI......DLA......LE......LA!!!!

Pooky
04 Dec 2007 03:25

hate it when someone is about to say something rude to you and then tries to cover it up by saying... i dont mean to be rude but...(and then the insult comes)...why bother making an excuse before you insult instead of just saying what you want to say

crocodile tears is another one i hate
and using the word like in every sentence
here's a popular one politicians often use, conspiracy

LM
04 Dec 2007 03:34

Revert back.....what the hell is this bathong...''I will check it and revert back to you''?????? the same goes for Reapet again.

Pooky
04 Dec 2007 03:36

mos..(i told you mos i was going to do it)
my china
i mean mos
yes sir/master, no sir/master.....yes madam, no madam

LM
04 Dec 2007 03:37

Don't you just love it when a person says prospone instead of postpone or satisfy instead of certifying documents....blame it on Bantu education!!!!!!

LM
04 Dec 2007 03:40

I meant Repeat!!!

andi01
04 Dec 2007 03:43

@ LM, what about, I actually had to repeat it again for the second time to her.

Lemon_Lite
04 Dec 2007 03:45

The word that gets to me - I'm sure...
Example
Q: Is your mom home?
A: I'm sure, she is....
No - you are not sure, so why say that.
The word MAYBE is not and does not feature in the darkie vocabulary... Don't say "I'm sure" if you mean MAYBE
I can't stand I'm sure.... I just want to break something when someone says that.

Kim Possible
04 Dec 2007 03:47

IMbali instead of Mbali this is sickening> what about UMSSHHLANGA instead of UMHLANGA???

I hate Gene(Boration) famous word > SABOTAGE (wuu shem bandla)

Xhosa Chick
04 Dec 2007 03:50

LM : "repeat again" is just repetition. Like umuntu athi : "two twins"

Honeypot
04 Dec 2007 03:51

Still on that converting issue ANDI01, There was this aunty who was once asked why she is so scarce these days and she said
" Heyi angizifihlanga yi le function", She meant to say"angizifihlanga wumsebenzi" Yoh that was so funny.

Pooky
04 Dec 2007 03:57

khoza instead of xhosa(capetonian colords)...and then when you try and correct them baske bathi... no i kant yelp it...

Kim Possible
04 Dec 2007 04:02

@ HP:Heyi angizifihlanga yi le function", LOL wangkhumbuza lomunye mama ethi : Please mntanami angiphe iCUPS eyodwa

& what about this one : ABEGIYOS (SP check) instead of Pardon

andi01
04 Dec 2007 04:02

LOL @ honeypot

andi01
04 Dec 2007 04:07

This girl @ my previous job was given a list of 50 names and asked to phone those. An hour later
employer: have you phoned the people on the list
employee: yes, i just did
employer: how many?
employee: Almost.
employer: Ha.a?
employee: not all sir, but almost

belz
04 Dec 2007 04:09

hahahahahahah andile, hahahahaha!

andi01
04 Dec 2007 04:14

When I was in matric, i used to listen to hip hop (50 cent, eminem, Dr dre)
One day my younger brother (6 @ the time just started school) was playing outside my room with his friend, arguing about whose sister is the best.
friend: usis' wam ufanda eskolweni sabelungu
my brother: owam usisi uyakwazi ukulinganisa zonke irapist (rappers)
I was flattered that my brother could brag about his sister but not entirely impressed about the content of the sentence though.

Preshiii
04 Dec 2007 04:17

Personally: in response to a question you were asked (it is you speaking ain't it???? Nxxx)

Propaganda (Politicians use this word ALOT)

How are you? (Too habitual)

I'm fine: usually follows the above-mentioned dull greeting

Stomach-out (WTF?)

HIV virus ????

SAMA Awards (South African Music Awards Awards????)

I'll be back with more............

andi01
04 Dec 2007 04:22

And those that say Droupleader instead of groupleader
And when a guy is trying to shela you.
guy: ek se joe
girl: hello
guy: u drand sani
girl: ndigrand ugrand wena
guy: hay nam ndi drand

Renegade
04 Dec 2007 04:28

Eish guys, i just remember somthing. We were watching E- news one day, and the reporter said something along the lines of: "Atleast 100 people died in the fire, with 70 seriously wounded".
My aunt then asked me, "Why is it that on the news they say "atleast", when its actually a lot of people who died?"
Guys, I actually had a hard time convincing her of the "english" meaning of the word(not less than), not the "darkie" meaning.
Coz to her, atleast means, "no so many" type of thing, i dont know if any of you understand this.
So is this also Bantu education at fault?

andi01
04 Dec 2007 04:28

2003= two tauzend and tree/ khree
32=teti two

Renegade
04 Dec 2007 04:30

@ Preshi, i feel you on SAMA awards, its like RAU university...eish!

andi01
04 Dec 2007 04:33

@ renegade, i know exactly what you mean, atleast i wont lie and say i dont

J-Girl
04 Dec 2007 04:35

the worst i've ever heard was this guy who was giving a speech @ CTech, SRC person I presume...

"...before I submarine Ma Afrika, I would like to say..." eish i asked the person next to me uthi she means before she sits down...yo zange ndayiva...before I submarine...
politician's language kills me

Renegade
04 Dec 2007 04:36

Lol andi01, you totally feel me on that!

belz
04 Dec 2007 04:40

Yho JGirl, why ddnt he say before i sit down?? geez, when you say submarine, sea and fish come to mind, why would someone even use that word for sit.

tshepiso
04 Dec 2007 04:45

we are prodly South Africans!!!!!!!!!

mnmnnnnnnn what about this:
to call traffic lights - robots
screw driver - school driver
to pronous agriculture as agrigulture
swaziland as Zwaziland
calculator as calchulator
security officers as maschurity

sponono
04 Dec 2007 04:45

i guess this has turned into darkie-english article...more than over-used English phrases/terms.Sego meant .hi hi hi interesting though

anyhoo my mother used to say "wena u-busy ulele..engabe uyafunda.." -you're busy sleeping instead of studying.....and I'd be thinking well know how does sleeping keep you busy...

Msoe
04 Dec 2007 04:51

@j-girl-lol submarine?????that's a classic

tshepiso
04 Dec 2007 04:55

we think that colgate is the generic name for all toothpaste, sta Soft for all fabric softeners and surf for all washing powders

sponono
04 Dec 2007 04:56

methinks somebody is exagerating
BTW..the word "robot" is not "wrong or out-of order actually its a uniquely South African way of describing traffic lights and its actually appropriate because a robot is a machine or a computer program which usually has a life of its own in this case replacing the traffic-cop in controling/directing traffic.

andi01
04 Dec 2007 04:59

@ j-girl-lol submarine- kwa kwa kwa
@ Belz Yho JGirl, why ddnt he say before i sit down?? geez, when you say submarine, sea and fish come to mind, why would someone even use that word for sit.kwa kwa kwa
we often use the submarine word when refering to secrets, or hidden things, hence submarine underwater,so maybe he was going to hide under the chair

sponono
04 Dec 2007 05:01

Renegade...if you notice abodarkie when we talk and somebsody tell you what they got or managed to get or do...we dont even say anything else but

Darkie one-"eish labantu banginike uR100"
Darkie Two -" at least....shame."..or "etlisti

and thats the end of the conversation

Sam2say
04 Dec 2007 05:07

"the thing is I thot" iyo, IIIIIIIIIIIIrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttaaaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbbllllllleee!!!
to my ears and dddddiiiiiiissssssttttrrrrruuuucccccttttttttiiiiiiiinnnnnnggg to my head, s*&^t....

Baby-A
04 Dec 2007 05:21

...of which...

Baby-A
04 Dec 2007 05:21

...of which...

J-Girl
04 Dec 2007 05:24

Darkie one-"eish labantu banginike uR100"
Darkie Two -" at least....shame."..or "etlisti hi hi hi
i'm guilty of overusing this word - atleast!!!!

Amaka
04 Dec 2007 05:34

@ Sponono "We need to transform the institutions..."
At grassroot level this guy sure acts suspiciously, sounds like he's planning a major coup d'etat instead of wanting to help. No applause here.

J-Girl
04 Dec 2007 05:34

"...when I look @ this from a helicopter view..." meaning giving an overview of the whole situation....yep...same lady...
i just called a friend of mine and reminded her of this lady and she quoted for me her favourite line from the speech

andi01
04 Dec 2007 05:44

as a matter of fact
as far as I'm concerned (3 fingures up & 2 down leke Tshawe from Emzini wezintsizwa)

Amaka
04 Dec 2007 05:45

Guys before i get crucified, Sorry for not introducing myself. Hello everyone!!

Renegade
04 Dec 2007 05:56

Lol @ Sponono...eish, being a darkie ne.

spice
04 Dec 2007 06:10

Sponono ,Andie,lepogo anyone i need you pls @ the punching blog

Honeypot
04 Dec 2007 06:15

But guys some of us,grew up speaking like that and we probably still do. Yooh but what about the words we used to refer to time e.g. kora past 3 or kora to 3 or ten pass 2. I manage to stop doing that when I was bought the digital watch( aka panya panya)

Msoe
04 Dec 2007 06:15

Welcome Amaka....

andi01
04 Dec 2007 06:32

@ Honeypot e.g. kora past 3 or kora to 3 or ten pass 2, kwa kwa kwa, i am guilty as charged shem on that atleast I admit I would sometimes go as far as kwara to/ kwata pass

monchooza
04 Dec 2007 06:50

Spopo nami my mother used to say kimi "ubusy ubuvila la kunokuthi uwashe izitsha" LOL

Lex
04 Dec 2007 08:26

@ Andi01 - One famous kwaito singer presenting an award, " I m gonna
present de de nominations, yu nam se , end de winner goes to"
NKALAKATHA!!!!!!!

Lushi
04 Dec 2007 10:14

Three weeks ago on Khumbulekhaya, the lady who was staying with Zandile or something (the girl who left her home in KZN and only came back in a coffin). The lady kept on refering to her twin sister as I TWINS lami.
Shu isilungu doesn't sound nice when used incorrectly, I mean I wouldn't have a problem if she had said iwele lami or whatever they call it in her siZulu

mabhebheza
04 Dec 2007 10:43

when u ask the time?..its someting to 2 .WTF
my favourite line when days are dark friends are dumb..( darkie moment)
i once dated a guy in high school so we were arguing of my demanding
Guy: yazi yini im sick and tired .( gosh can u be both)
Guy: everytime time u want want u say jump i must ask HI HI HI.. ( trying 2say how high) LMAO Shuu..

DJ Why why
04 Dec 2007 10:50

.... zangasese...
Eish @ Spopo....why do you kill a DJ like this maara???(ROTFLMAO).

My hate word is, For instance.....my mom's fav (absolutely hate it)!!! Uma efuna ukwenza ipoint ibe heard . Especially when she used to give me the dreaded girl-boy talks. For instance uThobeka is pregnant ngoku...wara wara!

Dimago
04 Dec 2007 23:29

Stakeholders!

KeleFabulous
05 Dec 2007 05:43

heheh nice one SEgo but like spopo said things got out of hand!

we nee to transform the instutions and do away with the injustices/imbalances of the past in advocating transparency because at this point in time our constituency demands that we revolutionirise our ideologies to mobilise our mandate and in as much as the infrustructure is condusive to transformation, at the end of the day we need to empower the grass rootslevel of the emerging communities by thinking outside the box and pushing the envelope, by involving all stakeholders.

spopo pls translate...i'm really curious! i always find it strange when people use such language (which is acceptable only if you're in school and i mean if u r physically in a class at that time...or business conferences and such) in a normal day to day talk. why do they do it mara ye? nna instead of being impressed that ooh the english is soo good i get ticked off!

fourtriple
fivetriple etc etc
because of

sponono
06 Dec 2007 01:43

Kele ...I just made that up...coz I've heared similar sounding statements from SRC's Community/Union leaders and politicians...ussually when they are either trying to avoid dealing with a particular issue..or trying to gain votes or avoiding answering a specific enquiry....so they just mix and match...and its difficult to say...that sound very deep but what are you saying...because obviously somewhere there's an idea...which could be put in one sentence..e.g we need to invlove our comminuties and encourage sharing of ideas . .....something like that....

Pooky
06 Dec 2007 02:57

i'm at a total lost of words( instead of loss)

Pooky
06 Dec 2007 03:01

meant to say...i'm at a total lost for words (instead of loss)

sponono
20 Dec 2007 07:14

i had to laugh when i read this...Fikile Mabula and his jargon

re you mockering me?'
19/12/2007 21:43 - (SA) Johannesburg -

ANC Youth League leader Fikile Mbalula is seldom at a loss for words, and on Wednesday he strung them together with cheerful disregard for the conventions of the English language.
Speaking to journalists at the ANC's policy conference in Polokwane, he labelled himself "spokesperson and chief campaigner lobbyist of the youth league".
As he got going with "all the lies and the rabble arousing (sic) has come to a point of reality", some head scratching was understandable.
"You are mockering around a political position," he said later.
The gobbledegook did not stop there.
"Corruption must be dealt with including in terms of its manifestation," Mbalula said.

Having previously referred to Finance Minister Trevor Manuel as a "drama queen", he took the opportunity to take a dig a Deputy Defence Minister Mluleki George.
George told a group of Mbeki supporters on Monday "at the moment, comrades, we are on top of them (ANC president Jacob Zuma's camp)".
Mbalula compared George to "comical Ali" - former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's spin doctor Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf.
Al-Sahif was the man who insisted Iraq was winning the second Gulf War while the Americans were advancing on Baghdad and the city was crumbling around him.

In keeping with war metaphors, Mbalula compared the road to Zuma's triumph at the conference to the bloody street battles fought between the Germans and the Russians in Leningrad at the close of World War II, in the winter of 1945.
"We will deal with them street by street," he said, quoting a Russian general.
The first victory, said Mbalula, had been the triumph of manual over electronic vote counting. "We did not want a computer thing."
Next came the bombardment of ANC chairperson Mosiuoa Lekota with points of order. This was followed by the rejection of gender parity for the ANC's top six positions.

"It was a campaigning strategy, not an issue of principle," he said.
Finally, added Mbalula with unwavering glee, came Zuma's election as ANC president.

KeleFabulous
21 Dec 2007 00:45

LOL. i'd like to know who his girlfriend/wife is...dayum!!!

awelani
21 Dec 2007 02:22

Mananger - manager.
smelt - melt
I'm guilty of calling all the margarines "Rama".

Segololo
21 Jan 2008 06:53

spopo *shaking head* haaaibo! No man! Ha ha ha!

Preshiii
21 Jan 2008 06:58

LOL @ you Sego for trying to resurrect your article kwabafileyo!

Nonny
21 Jan 2008 07:00

Sego till today i still get traumatised when i look at that pic of Linda Sibiya.............LOL

TheLady
21 Jan 2008 07:34

When I was still in high school IFP members were burning tyres emgwaqeni Aa journalist asked ubab'uNtombela (he is the leader ye IFP ePmburg) about lokushisa kwabo. He just said: Are you asking me a qualified question? bambuza ukuthi why abantu bethi babulawa iIFP his response " I don't kill any somebody they are trying to dirty my name"

Actually mina personally I hate someone starting every sentence with 'actually'

Nonny
21 Jan 2008 07:39

@ TheLady - "trying to dirty my name" -...hihihi......... that's what happens when u are doing direct translation, ugcina ulingcolisele ngempela igama lakho!!!

andi01
21 Jan 2008 07:49

@ Thelady Are you asking me a qualified question? true dat sisi I have come acroos qualified statement, qualified answer/ response.

TheLady
21 Jan 2008 08:02

OMG Rebecca on Gospel time " My guard, my guard' isn't it God?

Feza
21 Jan 2008 08:38

There are so many "lingos" today because of the use of Jargon and scientific terminology. People who work in a bank and people who work at a mortuary would not use the same kind of language, for instance.

I'll speak for myself: Probe and Investigation mean ONE thing, you should really not be confused about this. sometimes i'll have to write a headline to a news story that i just edited and lets just say the word "Invesigate" has to be included in the headline: Investigate is a long word compared to probe. Being a subeditor also, one has to find "suitable" words and manupulate them to "fit" in the provided space.

I'm also very passionate about language, especially my home language: Setswana and English. but english fascinates me more. so it is a pain in the you know what sometimes when i read wrong spelling or wrong punctuation or bad language in general, however, i have to admit that some errors when writting or speaking are inevitable and not everyone has had the training that i've had, so matsogo metsing sometimes....

Cutie Pie
21 Jan 2008 08:52

Yhu...you all had me in stricthes...Mna i hate it when a person yas "SANGWITCH", refering to a SANDWICH...Sies maaa....Or is me na who does'nt know the Lingo?

Babyface
22 Jan 2008 06:46

<<<Jargon and scientific terminology>>

monchooza
25 Apr 2008 04:44

eish yah neh....

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