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Looking Back And Forward

Written by Segololo from the blog Oh Moments on 08 Jul 2008
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I am a huge fan of Isidingo, especially storylines centered around the Matabane family as I can relate to their dramas. I have been a Thandi, once in my life, a very very long time ago but how will I not be a Nan in the future…

When I was still in the dating scene, I dated a guy that had a long-term girlfriend - I knew about her long before we became "involved". I had just left a traumatic horrible abusive relationship that I am still very angry with and was just damn scared of being in a relationship!

This "involved man", Cuz, was there for me after this time, He was the closest guy friend I had as he had approached me years before, I had turned him down and he met "gal" but had issues and I forced him to stay so we would chat once in a while whenever they broke up. I guess he liked hearing me say - "come on, you guys can make it work, the single life is hard!" AND this time I needed him!

He had a score to settle, I had a heart to mend... We got along very well, he was a good listener and he was very kind to what I was going through, we went out a lot and we fought a lot but we knew how to make up. Our fights were never about anything but me and him and certain behaviours we did not like with each other - Alcohol was my other friend and he loved working. So we would fight bitterly - shout, say mean things to each other and calm down then come back together, sit and talk through what was wrong with both of us... We had agreed after the first argument that no-one leaves during a fight and we stuck to it!

He blamed me for still being with "gal" because he seemed to think that we could have been very serious as him and gal had broken up every 6 months or so and I had always pushed him to make up with her. I was having none of that nonsense because he was a grown man that could make up his own mind about his state of affairs - I only advised, and had no gun to his head to stay.

Anyway, she found out about us and she was really hurt. I did not care. I had never thought about her, at all! She just didn't exist to me. I just felt that when it was time for me to go, I would go - I would never make him choose nor would I stay if he left her. He had told me that he would cheat on me if we got together because he couldn't trust that I would not hurt him, puhlease!!

She fell preggies and he went beserk - booking abortion clinics and insisting she get one. I made him choose between me and the abortion - if she has an abortion, I go! She wanted to keep the baby and he was not ready to let me go so I stayed thru the pregnancy. When the baby was born, my heart was mended and I was looking forward to having a solid loving relationship - I believed in love again. I left without a word or explanation - when he called I told him I was happy and fine, he needed to do the same too.

When I saw him again, 2 years later, he called me a "coward" because I had not made him choose between her and me. I had decided what was good for me and left with no scene. He still feels that I should have made him choose because he would have stayed with me. Gal still hates my guts and has never seen me. I am really sorry to have hurt her but I don't regret the relationship because I would have missed out on a relationship with King K if I was still as bitter as I had been before this "affair".

So I completely understand why mistresses stay in such relationships (and am not saying it is right), but as a wife and woman I am determined to ensure that my relationship will not be filtered by some woman in need of attention! But the question is how? Is determination just enough? How do you ensure that no-one slips into that crack within your relationship and causes pain, humiliation and complete and utter shock to a relationship?



103 Comments

Brown Shuga
08 Jul 2008 06:35

<<<I had just left a traumatic horrible abusive relationship that I am still very angry with>>> Gal  you need to put this experience behind you. Wasn't it like ages ago?

Re: the topic, eish, unfortunately we don't have power over whether or not your man invites someone else to "slip into that crack"...

carino
08 Jul 2008 06:41

This is very much close to home....i cant comment now yet.

Renegade
08 Jul 2008 06:55

if she has an abortion, I go - WOW!

Eish Sego, what you wirte about here is really intense. The question of how you ensuret hat no-one slips into that crack within your relationship and causes pain, humiliation and complete and utter shock to a relationship is indeed a hard one. 
Having been a "mistress" myself, I'm am well aware that the tables can turn anytime, and when they do, and I find that I'm the one who's being cheated on, what do I do, in fact, what you are asking is,how do I make sure this doesn't happen?
Thing is, there is no sure method, deep down inside me, I am of the opinion that a man will either cheat because he does not love you anymore, or because he's a man, and therefore just wants to explore a different bed. 
The latter is more common I think, while the former is the one that speaks of a troubled relationship. Also, if a man has fallen out of love with you, nothing you do will make him want you again. Thus, while the marriage is good, I think a woman should just be a good wife, not giving him reason to cheat(although he'll do it anyway, but atleast he can't blame you). Basically, what I'm saying is that the best you can do is not give your man reason to stray. What that contains is dependant on a relationship, but wives really need to be wives at the end of the day, because I think many a marriage fail because it is not clear who is a wife and who is a husband.( i know i'll get slack for this, but I don't care, it's true)

Many a time on this site I've commented on issues of this nature, and my stance is the same, I believe a man will cheat, and all I can do is pray that the man I marry is clever enough to cover his tracks well.

Eish, sorry to have gone on so long Sego, and i"m sure i splattered issues all over the place as i tend to do when i get carried away.

Fluffy Head
08 Jul 2008 06:58

That's a tough one...btu I'm gonna read on to see what em bloggers are gonna say...Interesting
I would say get handcuff sand cuff the man to your wrist but that is just soo not practical and psycho.

Renegade
08 Jul 2008 07:01

P.S. I don't think cheating is right.

Cande
08 Jul 2008 07:03

This is very much close to home....i cant comment now yet.

Me too

Tshd21
08 Jul 2008 07:29

I don't think any woman can ever make sure that some Thandi/Sego doesn't slip in through that crack... 
It is people's choice to go and slip in some company and no matter what the situation, there always is a way to not choose to go and cheat. You can divorce your partner and go on and your isht all you want.....
Not ideal if you are one of those people who likes to have your cake and eat it but it is a choice...
Marriage is a choice at the end of the day....a choice to sleep with one person for the rest of your life.....I take will you marry me as I will never ever sleep with anyone else but you...

That's Tshd21's story and she is sticking to it.....

Hi  y'all

KeleFabulous
08 Jul 2008 07:50

agree with Tshidi...if a man wants to cheat he will cheat and nothing you say or do will change that. we women have a nasty habit of taking ownership of men's actions and/or lack of commitment. they are grown up and should be treated as such. i know of this guy o ba mo baqileng about 4x and still the woman stays. 4x!!! clearly the one thing he's learnt from all of this is he can get away with it...i don't know gore yena the woman what is she thinking staying really...

as "morally" wrong as it may sound, maybe "open" relationships/marriage is the way to go. like we all like saying, it's better to get involved knowing the other party is "involved" than finding out later on...what's the diff if you both of you are of the agreement it's ok to taste the outside cake, so long as you come home to a home cooked meal? i can already hear the pages of that bible flipping and someone thumping away at a verse...LOL

carino
08 Jul 2008 08:02

carino
08 Jul 2008 08:12

I cant comment on marriages, coz im not married & i've never dated a married man. But I have a lot to sya about relationships, both long term & short term.

We all need to relax... especially us, girls. There's nothing that frustrates a man more than when he sees that you are not "holding on" to him...

I say, play them at their own game. If It Works For Me, Imagine What It Can Do For You??GrandPa...It Works Faster Because Its Powder!

Preshiii
08 Jul 2008 08:25

 I would say get handcuff sand cuff the man to your wrist but that is just soo not practical and psycho.

So true Fluffy. Women love to make men the centre of their lives, that's only because they do not find their lives worthwhile or interesting enough, so they find reason to remove all their attention from self development to a man. You will never be a secure woman putting your man at the place of loving yourself. (Easier said than done I know, because when we fall in love we go ghagha over our partner's)  The most fulfilling relationships are the one's where individuals have matured to a place of being responsible for their own behaviour,and do not need to be monitored/stalked regardless of temptation etc. Besides men hate insecurity above everything else. An insecure individual is just not attractive.

carino
08 Jul 2008 08:34

Yes, Preshii... a girl needs to be confident. What attracts a man more to you, is when he realises that your world is not about him and you can surely do it without him.
Why do you think most men always say they want their women to be like their mothers??  mhh????

Brown Shuga
08 Jul 2008 08:50

Hayi mara guys ke neng re bua ka banna lol

carino
08 Jul 2008 08:58

Thank you, BS! I just didnt want it to come from me...coz i've said it so many times in this site...

Thats another thing.... has Monchooza, or TDC, or Sponono EVER written an article about how they've been cheated on, or how they were played??? NOOOO... but thina we are forever moaning.. we give men too much credit, maan

nice
08 Jul 2008 08:59

Spoken like a true lady preshii, but I think what men fear most is the independent women. they are somehow threatened and as much I think I am mature enough, I may have waited too long as I cant seem to tolerate nonsense from men, and needless to say my relationships dont last and I foresee myself being single for a very looooong time. so gals I am not encouraging anyone to saty in abusive relationships but yhink long and hard before deciding to move on. 

And 4:25:40 PM, on replies whereas my watch is showing 16:00 which means it is now only 4 pm. someone help on this!

carino
08 Jul 2008 09:06

Reply from: Jordan 9/27/2007 2:44:40 PM
I use “you are the most gorgeous lady in the room” all the time!!! The ladies love it! I think it’s cos they get surprised... 

This is what a man said on the Pick up lines blog.... See waht i mean?????

Segololo
08 Jul 2008 09:12

Is Jordan a man?

Cande
08 Jul 2008 09:13

Hayi mara guys ke neng re bua ka banna lol

Eish i thought i was the only one who noticed, eish men must be proud of themselves when they read TVSA..

Brown Shuga
08 Jul 2008 09:19

P.S. Segololo, aren't you "cheating" on your hubby by having all these "suggestive" pictures on the right hand side? Last 5 pics.

monchooza
08 Jul 2008 09:20

hi hi hi hi hi hi.......

tshepiso
08 Jul 2008 09:27

ha ha ha ha huwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Toodecent
08 Jul 2008 09:27

Bomme ba TVSA lo a ba rata Banna neh
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Now back to the topic........Segololo great piece of work, I felt every inch of my body move when reading this, I love your bravery and admire YOU.......particularly is fighting to an innocent life.

Segololo
08 Jul 2008 10:04

Shugs: <<P.S. Segololo, aren't you "cheating" on your hubby by having all these "suggestive" pictures on the right hand side? Last 5 pics. >> Oh Shugs... U need to hear this man sing.. he has this song called Liputa and the first 5 lines he keeps singing "Lelo"! I am not joking! King K knows that Fally Ipupa is my hot chocolate and when he sings my world stops, so yah! maybe I am in an open relationship with my husband and I "cheat" with Fally... LMBAO!!

LM
08 Jul 2008 10:04

Rene, Presh, actually kaofela  ga lena guys..well said!!!

Call me crazy but (this days) I believe in sharing....one bloga once said that People Shall Share..and that's what's happening this days whether you like it or not...whether you are aware of it or not. When I was still under 25 I used to be very jealous when it cme to boyfriends/relationships...I used to tell myself that I will never share a man..I will immediately dump his S as soon as I find out that he is cheating. Look at me now, I'm going out with an involved man and would not mind to meet his 'main woman' so that she can finally accept that I exist ..that I love her boyfriend and he loves me...and that I'm going no where...so that we can share in peace...there will be no need for her to call me and hung up or keep quiet when I answer her calls. 

I'm not saying that I don't mind sharing because I'm a Thandi and not Nandipha in this case...this is reality...and the sooner people realise that, the better (for their hearts). 

I hope in this article we not gonna discuss whether it is right or wrong to get involved with attached men. we exhausted that topic already..

That's me!

Segololo
08 Jul 2008 10:16

LM:<<I hope in this article we not gonna discuss whether it is right or wrong to get involved with attached men. we exhausted that topic already.. >> Thank you, dear... You stole the words right out of my mind. My point was not to condemn nor encourage cheating but to enlighten people on how their perceptions of dating an "involved" man is not at all as they see it. There are so many different sides to it. Some willingly do it, like I did and you are, with no regret - and believe me I do not regret what happened in my cuzinship. It was what I needed at the time and I am not gonna go looking for another one very soon. Nor do i feel the need to make excuses about it. 

I also would have liked to get more people to accept that maybe, just maybe, they don't have these relationships "figured" out. I would have liked less male bashing because damn it takes two to get "involved" and yes the woman may have the power to say "I don't want to be a part of this" but it doesn't mean condemn the brother for his choices.
 

Molilo
08 Jul 2008 12:35

Sorry Sego but I would like all those who go out with involved men to reassess the situation. I had a 3 year relationship with an involved men who he got married in the first year after we went out. I was always asking God to give me the strength to end the relationship which happened this Sunday. He passed away. Now I moaning in the dark coz I am the side dish. My friends are by my side but will I cope with this? I will be attending both the funeral and memorial service and I so pray I will be very strong thruout both occasions. I need to go and say goodbye to him as he really meant a lot to me and I truelly loved him. I do not even have the guts to go to my parents house as my friends suggested as I stay alone. Life is tough I never thought that will be how I end that relationship I never thought of DEATH please ladies it is not easy..................

Lady D
08 Jul 2008 14:18

@ Mililo Sorry about "your" loss gal,i know it can't really be easy!Being Nandipha is not an option at this point in time,but trust me when isay this,its unavoidable,there is no formula or laid out plan to ensure your man won't cheat on you,the least one can do is to hope your man respect you enough to cover his tracks!!

Molilo
08 Jul 2008 14:23

Thanx Lady D. Tomoro is the memorial service.

Lady D
08 Jul 2008 14:33

I travelled that road 4 years ago when i lost my husband,i never thought i will pull through.When people told me that time will heal me,they just irked the hell out of me.But time did really heal me,you will also pull through.Just cry the paim away.

All the best tommorrow and stay strong

Segololo
08 Jul 2008 14:53

I am so sorry, molilo. Be strong + get all the support u can from ur friends + family. I lost a bf 2 + every yr when mandela celebrater his bday i mourn my loss 2. He shared the bday. He was shot in his home. Time does heal some of the pain but u neva 4get like lady d said.

Molilo
08 Jul 2008 15:04

Thanx Sego I try by all means to be strong. I so loved my friends on Sunday. They were all in shifts. They left me in the hands of another till I fell asleep. I am blessed to have friends like them who even though they were not happy with the affair but put their differences aside and supported me.

Cande
09 Jul 2008 00:40

I'm not saying that I don't mind sharing because I'm a Thandi and not Nandipha in this case...this is reality...and the sooner people realise that, the better (for their hearts). 

he he heeeeeeee

Bra Bizza
09 Jul 2008 01:26

so ladies don't mind being the Thandi's of this world....nithini na

andi01
09 Jul 2008 01:56

I ve been looking @ Linda sibiya's photo for sometime now, i still cant find his tototlozi, where is it ????

carino
09 Jul 2008 02:00

andi!!!!

Renegade
09 Jul 2008 02:03

Lol @ Bra Bizza,it's not that we don't mind, we just deal with it. I mean, it's not first option, everyone wants to have one man, and be the only woman for that one man. And that is what we'd have in a perfect world. 
Nna what I'm saying, is that my man needs to make me believe that I'm his only one, that's all. Because I am not naive, I know the possibilities that exist, but I don't want them in my face!

andi01
09 Jul 2008 02:14

rerag Carino, if u see it please show me

sbu001
09 Jul 2008 02:34

u knw covering ur tracks is important...i dont knw if chicks dont cheat but from my book  they do.

my chick caught me twice in bed with different chicks both these times we were having non stop arguments and I was tired of it ....to make my self feel better I would go with my boys and get a one night stand or another chick on the side.

what makes guys cheat is getting tired of the same routine....chicks not initiating sex even though they also want...getting the same p#ssy daily and obviously arguments which never end

to make it interesting this yesteday should not be the same as today otherwise people get and people should do it in different places not only on your guys bed..

andi01
09 Jul 2008 02:39

@Sbu001, i admire your honesty, but one question though, if a man isnt satisfied by what a woman does or doesnt do, how comehe doesnt speak to her and sort things out. Is it better to hurt someone by cheating instead of communicating with them and also if they talked and still he isnt satisfied, why doesnt he leave her and look for greener pastures.

carino
09 Jul 2008 02:49

, if a man isnt satisfied by what a woman does or doesnt do, how comehe doesnt speak to her and sort things out.

andi01, say you are Linda Sibiya's girl, if he doesnt satisfy you with his bullet of a totolozi, are you going to sit and "sort things out"?

sbu001
09 Jul 2008 02:54

@andi01-trying 2 talk things through means another argument which will take hours and with no conclusion of the way forward...so it becomes pointless only by waiting for a happy mood on both of u can issues be sorted out

on leaving for greener pastures-relationships are the same(it will be the same wherever u go) so if u love someone and u know time does heal things  u dont need to leave..shagging someone u don't love means nothing to guys its just shagging

sbu001
09 Jul 2008 02:59

andi01, say you are Linda Sibiya's girl, if he doesnt satisfy you with his bullet of a totolozi, are you going to sit and "sort things out"?

LOL

Renegade
09 Jul 2008 03:05

@Sbu001: shagging someone u don't love means nothing to guys its just shagging

And that line, sums up my philosophy on guys, although, it does happen as I said in my reply above, that a guy genuinely is out of love with his current partner, in which case, the only thing to do, is be honest, and leave!

carino
09 Jul 2008 03:09

shagging someone u don't love means nothing to guys its just shagging

sbu001, you are heaven-sent...I've always said,  punani to guys is their daily bread, it doesnt matter to them whether it's Albany or Blue Ribbon... to them it's just bread...  

Girls need to relax, thats what we need to do.

sbu001
09 Jul 2008 03:13

@Rene-I mean we dnt regard that as cheating if u shag someone u dont love or a one night stand-I'm talking about people who u can answer ur phone when ur chick is checking up on u at 12midnite and chat as if there is no one next to u...

Segololo
09 Jul 2008 03:17

Sbu001<<on leaving for greener pastures-relationships are the same(it will be the same wherever u go) so if u love someone and u know time does heal things u dont need to leave..shagging someone u don't love means nothing to guys its just shagging>> I really admire your honesty but not all relationships end up the same way. It really depends on the kind of person you are having the relationship with. 

There really has to be more you need from a relationship than rabbit shags all over the show... shagging is important and will happen but there are all those underlying (unquantifyable) things that all of us need that are also critical for a relationship like "trust, honesty, mutual respect, good communication and love". they may not be enough to sustain a relationship but they are just as important as shagging! 

Some people get into these relationships for those things. I am almost certain that not all women that are in relationships with "involved" men are doing it for the sex, yes it may be thrilling but they (bothe the people in the relationship) are looking and getting those other things  that they need and are not as good as they would like in their relationships. they stay because the missing things are not "deal-breakers" so they get them elsewhere! 

andi01
09 Jul 2008 03:23

@Sbu001, andi01, say you are Linda Sibiya's girl, if he doesnt satisfy you with his bullet of a totolozi, are you going to sit and "sort things out"? I think telling him that i dont want to be in this relationship anymore and moving on with my life, is better than cheating on him with a nigerian who can satisfy me sexually. Also I dont think its fair to tell a man that he is 2 small in that department coz that migth scar his self confidence for the rest of his life. but I believe getting out of teh relationship and moving on is the best thing one can do for her self, than cheating coz really ke Totolozi dont grow, if its small its small, same with punani they dont shrink, if its huge its Huge, its useless hanging around wishing things cud change.

I also think that guys cheat when there is unhappiness in  relationships. unfortunately, they don't usually realize that they might have caused most of that unhappiness until after they blow everything wide open."

Renegade
09 Jul 2008 03:25

@Sbu001, I know what you mean, and I was saying that it affirms my philosophy on men.

carino
09 Jul 2008 03:28

I once had this thing with this one guy.. I knew his stable girlfriend and i tell you that chick's confidence is the one thing that taught me everything i know about relationships. I used to observe her and even though I was doing her man, I was scared of her. She's the kinda person that has left her boyfriend to decide for himself whether he wants to be with her or not. And their relationship is one of the few respectable ones i've seen. I respected it too, i still do, even though i was sleeping her man.

After that experience, I told myself all I want in a man is the confidence to call him mine. So, i accepted that men are just men. I had done enough "involved" men to know that. 

So, when my boyfriend slept with another girl, i wasnt surprised, i wasnt shocked, i knew it was gon happen and i knew exactly the girl it was gon happen with. I didnt "find out". I knew it.

The reason I broke up with him after it happened, wasnt because he'd slept with that chick... I didnt have a problem at all with him sleeping with her.. coz, i mean, sex is just sex, you can have sex with anyone.... I was hurt because, she had replaced me, something i had not prepared myself for, and something I was not prepared to stand for. I dont care whether it was just for the four months that they were overseas... she was still made to think that she had taken my place, and thats what i had a problem with. 

So, i broke up with my boyfriend because, he'd walked out of our relationship, he broke my confidence.

I dont know why im saying all this here.... Sorry, sego... for offloading on your article.




belz
09 Jul 2008 03:40

Carino: eish san, so do you have your confidence back now? i know stuff like this actually scars you for life.

I was hurt because, she had replaced me> i've learnt something.

carino
09 Jul 2008 03:57

eish san, so do you have your confidence back now? i know stuff like this actually scars you for life. 

Thats a tough one, honestly.... You just made take a deeper look into my soul, gal...

u4me
09 Jul 2008 04:40

whenever a guy discovers that the gal is cheating, you will know 4 sure that its over, but if the guy is caught he expects forgiveness. It is like unwritten law, guys always getting away with murder.

sbu001
09 Jul 2008 04:41

Sego wrote

There really has to be more you need from a relationship than rabbit shags all over the show... shagging is important and will happen but there are all those underlying (unquantifyable) things that all of us need that are also critical for a relationship like "trust, honesty, mutual respect, good communication and love". they may not be enough to sustain a relationship but they are just as important as shagging!


@Sego-Thats why u have ur main chick for.....

carino
09 Jul 2008 04:49

Thats why u have ur main chick for.....

And the important thing is to make sure the sidechick doesnt come to think she's "main". 
She must know her place and never say "she loves you and hopes that she'll be part of your life forever" that's just plain fcuked up! 
I've never said that to the "involved" men i've been with...coz they gave me reason to respect their girls.

u4me
09 Jul 2008 04:54

I think the main point is communication between two partners. Talk about how you need to be satisfied sexually and let your partner know how to rock your boat. they say knowledge is power and it takes two to tango!

Renegade
09 Jul 2008 04:54

Eish Carino, I think you are capturing this whole thing wonderfully. It all lies in how you man makes you appear to his side chicks, he must make sure they respect you ,at the same time, you must not know of their existence. Well, mina I don't want to know of them. 

Cnglemother
09 Jul 2008 04:57

Sbu yo words are tormenting me dude especially your reply to Sego's comment.

carino
09 Jul 2008 05:00

u4me, that whole "you need to communication" thing is just a cliché ...

belz
09 Jul 2008 05:01

Sbu001 - *nodding my head in understanding* sad but true.

u4me
09 Jul 2008 05:02

do we have gals who are content to be sidechicks, at what price and 4 how long. One thing for sure they will try to push your gal out of the comfort zone. If you have sidechick she must know her place or else get sidelined...lol

u4me
09 Jul 2008 05:10

Carino, the sidechick will be very understanding at first, but as time goes she will start calling ur MainChick names and scolding her for failing satisfy and keep her man. For me a sidechick is a no go area, i dont need trouble.........

Molilo
09 Jul 2008 05:10

True dat Carino about respecting the main. As i said earlier I will as of the past Sunday not subject myself to being a side dish ever...........Hell no I am in a very difficult position now.

carino
09 Jul 2008 05:14

u4me, i've never minded being with a "taken" man...That was because at that stage in my life, i believed i couldnt be a "stable girlfriend" 
But my relationship with the man was never about the girlfriend.
I just knew she was there and i also didnt want their men... i was just having fun with them. I actually once broke up with a guy coz he'd ended things with his woman to be with me fulltime. That scared the heaven out of me. 

Girls need to relax... relationships are much deeper that we think.

Preshiii
09 Jul 2008 05:19

I ve been looking @ Linda sibiya's photo for sometime now, i still cant find his tototlozi, where is it ????

Yintoni Andi? Ubona masende qha?

Cande
09 Jul 2008 05:28

No comment: too close to home

carino
09 Jul 2008 05:33

Eish, Cande... ////shaking my head/////

u4me
09 Jul 2008 05:36

I actually once broke up with a guy coz he'd ended things with his woman to be with me fulltime. That scared the heaven out of me.

Carino, it sound familiar and i cant agree with you more on that one. Once you are promoted to be the MainChick you know you are next to be dumped. I`ve also realised that Sidechicks spent quality time with the man and also enjoying other priviledges, 

but as for the MainChick she will be at home looking after the kids and cooking for the man who might not even come back. Life is so cruel really..........

carino
09 Jul 2008 05:42

but as for the MainChick she will be at home looking after the kids and cooking for the man who might not even come back. Life is so cruel really..........

Now thats too extreme....Like i said, i have no comment whatsoever when it comes to married couples. 

I'm just praying for a husband that knows God.

andi01
09 Jul 2008 05:45

@Preshiii Yintoni Andi? Ubona masende qha?,  correction masende-nyana. Ok maybe bigger on teh second picture, but the first one, hay cha angivumi sisi, angikaze ngaybona into enje, angzange nje, NEZE.
Ok be honest ke preshii do u see it, if u do please direct me to its where abouts, u no me, i love 2 keep track of the Totolozi

carino
09 Jul 2008 05:45

And fears God, too...

realist
09 Jul 2008 05:58

Nna what I'm saying, is that my man needs to make me believe that I'm his only one, that's all. Because I am not naive, I know the possibilities that exist, but I don't want them in my face!

Basically, what you are saying is that you cannot be hurt by something you do not know? If by hook or crook you happen to know that he cheats, will you let go or would you ask the reasons for his cheating?

Preshiii
09 Jul 2008 05:59

Ok be honest ke preshii do u see it, if u do please direct me to its where abouts

I would direct you, but after the Uyanda vs BS suing saga...I'd rather shut my cyber mouth cos all I have mna is my tricycle...

belz
09 Jul 2008 06:00

I actually once broke up with a guy coz he'd ended things with his woman to be with me fulltime. That scared the heaven out of me. > i totally understand. 

Girls need to relax... relationships are much deeper that we think> Very true, and relaxing is what im doing, life is easier if you relax, otherwise uzosangana nje.

pastor chic
09 Jul 2008 06:04

I'm just praying for a husband that knows God.And fears God, too...   AMEN TO THAT MY SISTA.

Preshiii
09 Jul 2008 06:10

I'm just praying for a husband that knows God.And fears God, too... 

I hope this God fearing man will find a God fearing woman in you too. Give as good as your request.

sbu001
09 Jul 2008 06:17

but as for the MainChick she will be at home looking after the kids and cooking for the man who might not even come back. Life is so cruel really..........

u need 2 dump those,u still spend quality time with ur main chick but use spare time to be with the other ones.....coz if u luv her what will hurt u more is losing her than losing than the sidekick(whatever u call omakhwapheni)

pastor chic
09 Jul 2008 06:30

eish yah neh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

felfel
09 Jul 2008 06:32

Still crying ladies I see............................................

Spiderman...Not
09 Jul 2008 06:43

Here is my two cent's worth of an opinion. I have never cheated in my life and yes I am a man, but I have found myself entertaining the idea of late for a number of reasons:

1 I do not feel appreciated as the good man that I am, just because I am a man my woman always suspects me of cheating,

2 the relationship is no longer as interesting as it was before and I have tried to spice it up but this is a two way street, uyanginika ngiyakunika, so I can't do it alone,

3 accusing me of cheating when I am not, that's surely pushing me coz if you already think I am cheating what do I have to lose?



carino
09 Jul 2008 06:43

I hope this God fearing man will find a God fearing woman in you too. Give as good as your request.

Yes, sisters, im now concentrating on making myself whole, so i can attract a whole man, and we will have a whole marriage...

Franco
09 Jul 2008 06:47

Come on guys , maybe it was feeling cold ,,ama outie ayazi what happens to your thing when it's feels coldish,,,
eishhh kodwa nabo Linda Sibiya baya spida, awubheke manje...LOL

Segololo
09 Jul 2008 06:47

Spiderman...Not: You are entertaining the idea because of what is not there in the relationship. So why not break it off and just have a relationship with someone that will appreciate you and not let their insecurities push you to hurting more people?

andi01
09 Jul 2008 07:01

@ Franco, LOL

Brown Shuga
09 Jul 2008 07:05

Oh spiderman.... Not!!!! I've been looking for someone like you my entire adult life....wanna cheat with me? hehehehe

I"m joking man but please men like you are so rare, don't cheat on her rather end the relationship and find someone who will appreciate you for the good man you are. (like me....if you are cute)

carino
09 Jul 2008 07:11

Come on guys , maybe it was feeling cold ,,ama outie ayazi what happens to your thing when it's feels coldish,,,
eishhh kodwa nabo Linda Sibiya baya spida, awubheke manje...LOL
 

I think the poor thing was more shocked than cold. i mean, poor bullet.... it just didnt understand why it had to be exposed at the beach like that. and im sure when it saw the other bigboyZ that are supposed to be flaunted, it shrunk back in... like a tortoise's head, i'd imagine.

sbu001
09 Jul 2008 07:15

Spiderman
-Dude its gud nt 2 cheat if u nt used  to it coz she will find out and confirm her suspicions and to her it won't matter when it started,she will just say I knew u were doing this

My advice
-U must try to do different things every weekend
-S*x-always ensure that yesterday is not the same as 2morow coz enjoying making luv 2gether will improve ur relationship,challenge her to be on top at times...use other positions to give her....encourage participation
-ask her what she wants and tell want u want
-everything will be back to normal



sbu001
09 Jul 2008 07:27

BS-come to me rather I am nt cute but I hv the bank account.....

Cande
09 Jul 2008 07:32

ROFL @ Franco

u4me
09 Jul 2008 07:34

ask her what she wants and tell want u want
sbu001, there are peolple who are not sure of what they want in life, it become difficult to 2 move 4wad together. Talking about chasing waterfalls, instead of swimming in the river. I understand Spiderman frustration, being guilty until proven otherwise. 

belz
09 Jul 2008 07:34

LOL Franco....... Shuga, behave.

andi01
09 Jul 2008 07:52

@Carino think the poor thing was more shocked than cold. i mean, poor bullet.... it just didnt understand why it had to be exposed at the beach like that. and im sure when it saw the other bigboyZ that are supposed to be flaunted, it shrunk back in... like a tortoise's head, i'd imagine. ha ha ha ha, kwa kwa kwa kwa, hihi hi hi, LOL, wena Carino you are so naughty why ugeza ngobhuti wabantu, ROTFLOL.

carino
09 Jul 2008 07:58

andi01, you started it, remember.... angithi nguwe uvele wayokhangelibullet yomnyemtana...LOL...

u4me
09 Jul 2008 08:01

Hlehle
09 Jul 2008 08:06

What did u expect frm Linda coz unesisu esikhulu so he cant have it all. Does he have kids coz i once heard that if ur totolozi is small u struggle when u need to produce kids.

andi01
09 Jul 2008 08:47

@ Hlehle, hay actually its the other way round, the smaller they are the more productive they are, akere mos when you stand from a distance and aim, most of the time you hit the spot, but if u closer to the spot sometimes its easier to miss it.

Also I didnt say its not there, ndithi I cant find it, maybe I am just totolozi-blind or I am blinded by that pink thingie he is wearing.

Cande
09 Jul 2008 16:43

Haibo guys, yekani togho. ULinda wa bantu. lol

Bra Bizza
09 Jul 2008 17:02

so what's the final word on this matter....do we bless abo sisThandi...hoping aboNandipha would understand???

ngiyanizwa nikhuluma but y'all speaking in riddles.....some are blaming men...others are justifying rubbish...or better....Sego,did you get an answer from all these replies....or it could be the time of the night....my mind is a bit slow around this time....

Brown Shuga
09 Jul 2008 17:10

Cande, it's torho not togho hehehe. Ur getting there makoti!

Cande
10 Jul 2008 01:11

slowly but surely BS

Cnglemother
10 Jul 2008 01:18

Lawd Cande u r still shagging xhosa boyz?

Renegade
10 Jul 2008 01:21

@Realist: Basically, what you are saying is that you cannot be hurt by something you do not know? If by hook or crook you happen to know that he cheats, will you let go or would you ask the reasons for his cheating?

Look, if I found out he strayed, I'll be more mad at his stupidity for letting me find out. Lol! Seriously, I think it will depend on the situation, (who it's with, his reasons for cheating, and so on). I'd be lying if I told you I'd leave straight away, coz I'd really rather assess the situation first, then decide

Cande
10 Jul 2008 01:21

No comment: CngleMom LOLOLOL :)

sjura
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