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Zuma and Motlanthe - Birds of a feather?

Written by Dimago from the blog Some food for thought on 05 Feb 2009
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When my favourite president was recalled, Kgalema Motlanthe gave me some hope that there are still decent politicians out there. I held the man in high regard. But after this stunt (cheating on his wife with multiple women) I’m not sure where I stand with him. I guess the HIV message has not registered in any of these people (politicians). Why do our politicians have such irresponsible sexual behaviour? We all took a swipe at Zuma when he had sex with an HIV positive woman, then took a shower. Motlanthe has just impregnated a 24yr old girl; has possibly broken the heart of a 45 year old woman (she left her husband of 17 years – presumably for the president). Clearly he’s been sleeping with both women, and for the 24 yr old to fall pregnant means precautions are not as high on his agenda as Zimbabwe is.

Yummy old man with questionable morals

We already have such a big problem with HIV in our country, now when our leaders don’t do their part to promote a healthy sexual lifestyle, what’s that teaching not only our children but our society. I can just hear South African men using both Zuma and Motlanthe to justify their behaviour. I’m very disappointed at these two leaders, and as a result, if any of them are candidates for presidency, I’m not casting my vote for their party.

KZM

Motlanthe and Zuma probably sharing tips on how to prevent HIV

Maybe Obama needs to start a school for future presidents, and South Africans really need to attend.

Ke lame leo!

173 Comments

Cande
05 Feb 2009 14:14

Eish HIV

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 14:23

Well done, I see you found inspiration and energy, yes well all have fallen short and have a skeleton or three in their cupboards..

Maybe Obama needs to start a school for future presidents, and South Africans really need to attend.
I wouldn take it that far - its still early days, he is trying to please everyone at the moment and look intelligent when in actual fact if you studied economics you would fail to understand his $800 million stimulas package

dali
05 Feb 2009 14:23

im also not voting

Cande
05 Feb 2009 14:26

how i wish someone could find a cure for this disease, haiye re ya fela jaanong Modimo

youngtodie
05 Feb 2009 14:26

i totally agree with you dear ,the SA politicians they are very bad example to the youth. They need to grow up and act like real man.As far as i am concerne the two gentlemen acted like the immatured teenagers ,or were they in the latest adolecense stage?

Dimago
05 Feb 2009 14:27

LOL Jael, i tried my friend..eish wena...

But Obama passes on morals wouldn't u say J?

Dali you have to vote, maybe not for the party Kgalema and Zuma are in

Shuga babe
05 Feb 2009 14:32

Kgalema, Zuma and the ANC.....Mncwaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

dali
05 Feb 2009 14:33

dimago i really want to vote for anc but since they dont want to grow up i wont vote maybe next time ill vote but now no no. im boycotting until they change their behaviour.

mabhebheza
05 Feb 2009 14:35

How does their personal life affect the country if Motlante ushada nebhencane which he has impregnated ..\Singena kuphi eintlek

1st : How do u knw that they tested & they r aware status b4 davazing or deciding 2shada & make babies ...just becoz they didnt declare it 2the public doesnt mean they ignorant about HIV & so forth

2ndly : Being a politician wether president or just an activist means ur human & u should behave like one as long as u deliver wat u promised the nation & not try & live holyier than thou...

Siyathanda ukuzenza abonqeste nje ngento angekho..AS 4Obama Ditto 2 Jael

Firstdvd
05 Feb 2009 14:38

I liked ur 1st line mabhebheza ;-)

Shuga babe
05 Feb 2009 14:49

U are going to crack your big head trying to compare an Amrican man to South African Men. bahluke kakhulu. Mabhebeza your last line says it all....

cleve
05 Feb 2009 15:06

These people are our leaders and should lead by example.!!!!!!!! It is disgusting to hear such things about them. I don't have any respect for them, if you can't uphold your personal morals how are you going to uphold the morals of the country. We are not saying that you must be a saint.

Cande
05 Feb 2009 15:07

guys please dont bite my head off or anything but i just wanna know since the 1st lady spends my tax money don't i deserve to know who she is and what she does?? ke botsa fela

Best-Achiever
05 Feb 2009 15:16

If you dont vote, please dont complain

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 15:16

Good question Cande, Dimgs this article is good hey - you DID it not TRIED LOL

Eish guys I am researching on leaders who go wrong for class and eish...man is wicked, thank God these 2 fellows love sex and not killing people for the fun of it. Some of the stuff I have come accross....its gruesome!!!!

We will see with Obama I just dont buy into his policies....when he was campainging he promised so much and was very vivid now i know y!

Shuga babe
05 Feb 2009 15:18

<<Zuma and Motlanthe - Birds of a feather? >> ???????????

Cande
05 Feb 2009 15:21

true that BA

Dimago
05 Feb 2009 15:24

How does their personal life affect the country if Motlante ushada nebhencane which he has impregnated ..\Singena kuphi eintlek
They are public figures and leaders of our country

thank God these 2 fellows love sex and not killing people for the fun of it.
LOL...true...it could be worse i guess

Cande, thats what i'd like to know.

<<Zuma and Motlanthe - Birds of a feather? >> ???????????
Where's the confusion babes?

GML
05 Feb 2009 15:30

I agree with you Cande. I understand him (motlante) wanting to keep his personal life private but we deserve to know. We are feeding and clothing her mos.

I I'm particualry sick of politicians not answering our question but they still want us to vote for them. How many questions has Zuma been asked and he has avoided answering them or he has hidden behind the collective( ANC's NEC)?

The government is saying that the youth should abstain, condomise or stick to 1 partner. What message is he sending by haveing so many wives. Does he expect us to believe that he uses condoms with all of them? And normally married couples dont use condoms unless the woman is not on the pill.

Correct me if I'm wrong

Onna
05 Feb 2009 15:35

Did yoou know what Zanele Mbeki did with yo money Cande?tl lt lt.......
Jokes aside, I do not really see what a presidents private life has to do with us since he obviously is trying to keep it private. The girl is preggas and he is trying to make an hounest woman of her so why are we bothered?

mabhebheza
05 Feb 2009 15:40

i understand that Dimags that they r public figures & leaders...so wat in ur life or ur economic life has changed or will change if he decided 2date 24yr old & marry them...Does this increase the crime level or does it bring the rand down haaibo!!

SB we r the melie-meal of the same sack

Onna
05 Feb 2009 15:42

As you say GML, they are his wives, not girlfriends so he is saying marry the one you sleep with hi hi hi.........

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 15:46

Cande
05 Feb 2009 15:46

Did yoou know what Zanele Mbeki did with yo money Cande?tl lt lt... Yes Onna, i used to see those cheap suits from small street that she used to wear LOL

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 15:49

LMAO @ Onna

Shuga babe
05 Feb 2009 15:50

<<SB we r the melie-meal of the same sack>> Well said Mabhebheza!!

Tata Mandela was married to Mam Winnie and than dated or married a White chick and he's now married to Mam Graca but we never complaned, why now its wrong 4 President Motlante to live his life.

if u don't vote than why bother telling us.

Did yoou know what Zanele Mbeki did with yo money Cande?????

Beyonce
05 Feb 2009 15:51

>>I can just hear South African men using both Zuma and Motlanthe to justify their behaviour.<< Why would they do that Dimags? R u saying that SA men dont have minds of their own, they just follow and do whatever politicians do?

Mina as an individual, I would never be influenced by anyone... not even Beyonce(lol), so I dont understand why ppl should be influenced by politicians! They are living their lives, live your own nawe to the best of your ability. You mama taught you mos what's good and what's bad manje yini ismoko?

dali
05 Feb 2009 15:52

@ BA - still not voting

and im not complaining.

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 15:53

ROTFLMBFAO - Cande..those cheap suits from small street - kwakwakwakwkawkakwkakwa

Best-Achiever
05 Feb 2009 15:56

Does this increase the crime level yes...moral decay, imagine yur kid growing up thinking its OK to have umdavs unprotected go shower and it will go away or for their head master to umdavs with them + fall pregnant - y he is a leader and should be trusted with her but heck who cares our president did it so y not me or does it bring the rand down haaibo!! cant answer this part

@Jael... The worst thing about this is.... people around you who knows that your child did such will blame you as the parent not the president. Asa parent it is your respondibility to teach your child, it is not the media's. If you fail dont blame other pople for that.

We need to focus on our lives and things that build us.

Best-Achiever
05 Feb 2009 15:58

@ BA - still not voting

and im not complaining.

@dali ..well that's your choice

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 16:00

Mina as an individual, I would never be influenced by anyone... not even Beyonce(lol), so I dont understand why ppl should be influenced by politicians! They are living their lives, live your own nawe to the best of your ability. You mama taught you mos what's good and what's bad manje yini ismoko?

Beyonce - there is something called MOB PSYCOLOGY which is a very real state of mind, perfect example:

(sos dimags) many of the SS in Hilters camp where NORMAL individuals who would not have been easily influenced but ended up being influenced by a sadist, lunatic .....what ever other name you wanna add who get this WAS NOT EVEN A GERMAN by birth or had the traits of HIS (HILTER) so called "perfect race" ie blond hair an blue eyes - but they all followed him and they wer all influenced to do the worst possible kin dof things you can not even begin to imagine......then guess what.......they thought there is poor and uncivilsed Africa lets go there and show them "perfectionism" and get rich how many followed?

men here can do teh same, its coming from the top - what is on top - ALWAYS slides down if you dont clean it up...the state of mind "if my leader can do and get away with it - mara whata bout me"

Cande
05 Feb 2009 16:01

@ least i knew her and that she is the 1st lady SB

Dimago
05 Feb 2009 16:04

(sos dimags) - thanks Jael..i needed that

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 16:08

Asa parent it is your respondibility to teach your child, it is not the media's. If you fail dont blame other pople for that.

We need to focus on our lives and things that build us.

Research claims that "controlled" kids spend up to 1000hrs in front of the TV, 90% of your kids time is spent in skool where 50% of social education and enlightment is taught and exposed....you can try to avoid the media but you will not succeed

Train up a child in the way it should go and it will not depart from it 100% correct,

BUT once that child becomes of age where it makes its own decisions - thats between them and God. As a parent you have little or no influence over them (reality - no matter how much you talk about it, the more that thing you dont want to happen, happens and once an "adult" the more strong willed they become)

Each person (incl. young, old, middle aged, adolescent) in their OWN eyes (not mama or papa's) THINKS they are RIGHT. (whether or not they are)

Thats why even you as a Christain (assuming) need constant hearing of the WORD of God so you know the WILL of God

Beyonce
05 Feb 2009 16:08

Cha cha cha, I disagree Jael....
Well if you look up to Zuma and Montlante then dittooo, I can't hate on you- you doing yo own thing:) Let me do mine and look up to my mom!

cleve
05 Feb 2009 16:11

Guys please don't say you are not influenced by anyone. We all influence each other in some or other way. The clothes we are wearing is some kind of influence from another human being.

Another thing is that if it were a woman doing this; I doubt you answers would be the same, and you know why? that's because of what society has made us believe. It's okay for a man to cheat; and a disgrace for a woman to cheat.

Kgalema and Zuma both cheated on their wives. AND IT"S NOT RIGHT!!!!!

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 16:11

and practise then and only then can you walk in disclipin - its not up to how my mother brought me up at the end of the day coz we all given the chance....if a kid esp a teenager fails - in my opinion its not the parent it the Kid who chose to! who decided to follow teh leader, after whats a leader....a person who leads FOLLOWERS............

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 16:13

ditto cleve....ditto

Ms. Jay
05 Feb 2009 16:16

guys am out for the day - enjoyed the challenge Beyonce......am trying not to be influenced by your line of thought LOL

Thanks Dimags - will be back tmrw, I reallllly enjoyed this! had been a while since my mind stretched and had to seriously think of teh controvercial..pity my spelling hasn come back from teh holiday

Beyonce
05 Feb 2009 16:16

Let us all bow our heads and Pray.

Cande
05 Feb 2009 16:19

LOL

mabhebheza
05 Feb 2009 16:23

@beyonce *singing in my best Rihanna voice*just live ur life eh eh eh eh ..
KM is livin his personal life nathi we shud live ours as we were taught & siyamazi u right no wrong 4 OUR LIVES we shud not judge other ngento angasisizi ndawo

Lento ifana nomfundisi he preaches the word of God but he not a saint but that doesnt change our believe ...(im not umzalwane )
izinyanga & sangomas ezinye ziyathakatha but that akusho ukuthi indlozi is a bad thing umuntu

mabhebheza
05 Feb 2009 16:28

haai amehlo wam avaliwe....washomthandazo
CLEVE uzoboshwa upepeza amanga...... wazelaphi ukuthi they cheated i havent heard stories of Zumas wife complaning phela unesithembu & that my dear aint cheating but its a topic 4another day

Pitilili
05 Feb 2009 17:53

Hhayi cha mine angeke ngisho lutfo ngalendzaba (I have no comments)
I am afraid though that mabhebheza apears to be defending the undefendable angati kanjani though.

>>>>CLEVE uzoboshwa upepeza amanga.... is that a threat or what mabhebs for if it is then cleve has to be afraid and be very?

Thank you Dimago for that.

Beyonce
05 Feb 2009 20:18

Pitilili-- I like your name, very much.

Lady D
05 Feb 2009 22:38

I fail to understand how a person can choose not to vote for a party jsut because a leader of that party cheated on his wife,like really...how does that change or affect the price of bread.Shouldnt we be more concerned about the genocides in Africa,about the Zim situation,we do not have a crisis,our president is engaged to a 24 year old so what??,nobody is going to die becasue of that,nobody is living in fear because of that.Africa has real problems and we are worried about people cheating on their wives..really now!!!!

Firstdvd
06 Feb 2009 06:05

Privacy guys~and we need to respect that. They're also humans just like you n me. This won't affect our economy!

realist
06 Feb 2009 06:50

The problem with SA women is that they do not understand the concept of being a mistress. Ask France they will tell you.

Motlanthe is a puppet president and he is taking orders from Luthuli house. Let us wait for the real president and take it from there. BTW, I hold no candle for JZ. SA deserves the leaders that they get.

realist
06 Feb 2009 07:00

Guys please don't say you are not influenced by anyone. We all influence each other in some or other way.
Agreed.

mjj
06 Feb 2009 07:56

Morning bloggers……a stupid question……The stories about our care-taker president written on this article are they facts or ludicrous fabrications???? If they are facts can someone refer me to a statement released by the Presidency confirming these stories? I know the shower story is a fact because JZ confirmed it to the public when he was on trial that he took a shower after having sex with an HIV positive woman……

Also those that are talking about their tax being used to pay for the first lady (hayi shame ininzi mos imali eniyibhatalayo for le tax yenu, or should I say the R1000 rand a month that some people pay for tax does a lot, feeds the poor, build houses, pays the presidency, pays for your grandmother’s pension, pays for food of your cousin in jail..etc)….eish sorry I got carried away….My question was to those that are talking about “their” tax and first lady……if you are really interested to know who your first lady is, pick up a phone, phone the presidency office and ask to speak to the spousal office, once you are transferred there….ask for the name of the first Lady….I’m sure you’ll me given a name….If NOT…..then you can stand on Top of Table Mountain and demand to be given the first-lady’s name. Until you do that, then you can complain about not knowing your first lady (as if knowing her will get you a R1 salary increase)…..

Now everyone is up in arms about stories written by tabloids……..that no one has confirmed if they are true or not……Dimago can you please give me a reference on where I can read about what is written here, or do you know these ladies????

Humble apologies if these are true……(I’m apologizing in case the President confirms the rumours on his state of the nation address)

Oops i nearly forgot.....Morning Bloggers....its god to be back on TVSA.....i missed all of you....

Miracle Child
06 Feb 2009 08:14

Privacy guys~and we need to respect that. They're also humans just like you n me. This won't affect our economy!

Personally, i think once an individual becomes a public figure, this thing ya gore o na le privacy ga e sa exista. And as a leader, one must lead by example cos when u do wrong ur followers wil fba tla yetsa da same! Kriselda kananda also mentioned gore it wont make sense to the public if she had to fall pregos and when asked how she did it cos she is +, reply by saying it is none of the public's business. Yes it is our buz cos + people who waqnna have kids would wanna knw how she did it. eish i hope ke yetsa sense. morning y'all

realist
06 Feb 2009 08:34

Personally, i think once an individual becomes a public figure
And his salary is paid by taxpayers then I am afraid private life does not exist.

realist
06 Feb 2009 08:36

tha - bang
06 Feb 2009 08:42

No we really deserve leaders such as JZ and motlhanthe. it seems,in south africa, to hold a leader to a high code of ethics (nevermind morals) is beyond us. I feel sorry for us,lets talk after 5 years,i wonder what will we say then.
michael phelps was caught smoking weed way off the track and field ,he has been suspended for 3 months. we have a leader who is facing corruption and we give him the presidency.long live the banana republic long live

Cande
06 Feb 2009 08:49

that tax paragraph is sooo sooo, i dont know how to describe it..! Miracle Child, i lavh your name

Vesa
06 Feb 2009 08:50

mabhebheza, mjj, Lady D, Bey....thank you !!!

Personally, i think there are more things to worry about than who Motlanthe is with! As for voting, this is a free country....people are free to decide whether they want to vote or not!

Onna
06 Feb 2009 09:01

All this poeple not voting for a party because the leader is less than perfect is reminding me of america ipmitching their president just because he got a blow job only to replace him with one that blew the countrys economy. I still dont understand what a person is doing in their private time impacts on his running the country. I would understand if people said they will not vote because of hte party itself not just an indivisual and not voting seems so childish for me its like sulking at a person who does not even notice u r sulking. Maybe voting for the next best party will be better than to stay away altogether.

cleve
06 Feb 2009 09:02

JZ confirmed it to the public when he was on trial that he took a shower after having sex with an HIV positive woman……

Mabhebheza that must answer your question. Even if JZ has izithembu he has cheated on them. He is not supposed to have sex other than the women he calls his wives.
I WILL VOTE AND I WILL COMPLAIN IF THINGS ARE NOT GOING WELL!!!!

And I say again, if we had a female president doing such things, we would all be up in arms shouting form the rooftops of how immoral she is. And what makes me mad, is that US women will be the first to point fingers. The very same women who are saying it's okay to do what these men are doing as long as it doesn't change the price of bread. No wonder SA has the highest HIV/AIDS rate. Our leaders are teaching us to take showers after having sex. Maybe we won't catch the virus. WE teach MEN to cheat on us and get away with it, so stop crying foul when it happens. DEAL with it because you are giving him the rght to do that.

realist
06 Feb 2009 09:08

And I say again, if we had a female president doing such things, we would all be up in arms shouting form the rooftops of how immoral she is. And what makes me mad, is that US women will be the first to point fingers.
Without a doubt you have hit the nail on the coffin. The very same women would be saying as long as it does not affect me it is OK.

Cande
06 Feb 2009 09:19

but didnt JZ say he took a shower only after he was asked by the prosecutor uguthi what did he do after the intercourse? not that he took a shower to prevent hiv?? am confused

Onna
06 Feb 2009 09:24

I think mjj is right in that in saying some of the stuff the tabloids spew is just utter nonsense. One of them published that he was a lonely president, who goes home to sleep alone the very next week they publish that he has a fiancee which is preggas. Do they even bother to investgate the story before they write? I dont think so.
And who says she is leaving on our taxes, and even if she does I would rather she than some rapist in jail that gets three hot meals in jail thanks to my taxes.

Cande
06 Feb 2009 09:30

I just saw a disturbing TIK powerpoint slide, i wish i could send it to the education department to place it on notice boards in every school..

Onna
06 Feb 2009 09:31

Yebo Cande he was actually stating what he did after the did. The judge did not ask what he did to prevent the infection.

tha - bang
06 Feb 2009 09:43

ok aside from hearsay and all, is there any ethical, moral and positive leadership in sa? Now or i the upcoming administration?

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 09:46

No wonder SA has the highest HIV/AIDS rate

SA is the most accomodating country, we have more than a million people from other countries living in SA, some by right and some by chance. When they check the statistics of people living with the virus, they check which country are they living in NOT the country they were born/from, so maybe just maybe as much as we SA ppl have the virus but it is not certain that other pps from other countries living here dont have it and that will actual add on out Stats.

We must just exercise our right where our confidence is ... if you dont trust a certain leader then dont vote for him, no one is forcing anyone to vote for a certain individual .... YOUR vote is Your secret.

mjj
06 Feb 2009 10:03

Fully agree with you BA about the epidemic......really now, 2moro we will be saying SA men are cheating because of the President....Men have been cheating for decades........the HIV infection rate has been going up long before the baby oil and shower story....but 2moro we will be blaming JZ for people being infected.....Wow..

Cande mail me the TIK presentation please....

Now let me call the Presidency to find out about the first lady seeing none of those that were complaining didn't take me up for my offer......

Tha-bang my brother i don't think we can associate morality/Ethics and SA Political leaders.....like most of us they have skeletons..........and with our so called democracy (whatever that means) and unlike America or other countries its hard to hide the truth...one way or the other it will eventually come out especially in this new dispensation....where you see people that fought for common justice are now fighting against each other....its going to get personal as we can closer to the elections......

You have a sturborn man who refuses to make a sacrifice for his own people just for his personal gain.....ukuthanda imali is a sin.........If you are innocent as you claim then let the court find you innocent......Presidency is not going anywhere....

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 10:06

But after this stunt (cheating on his wife with multiple women) I’m not sure where I stand with him

What is your source Dimago..where did you learn about this.
Just weeks back(cant remember) we were readingg the KM goes home to an empty house since he separated from his wife and he is loney, is lonely the name of Women?

Now last week we readagain the he is engaged his long term lover(apparently they met when she was 19 and now she is 24), did they also mention other women, beside this young lady?

Just like the state is "misusing" our tax money, we are also misusing our employers money, we are busy blogging when we are supposed to be working, and how we feel about the abuse of our tax money is exactly how our employers can feel with the abuse of their money..... so i guess, the world operates like that

Cande
06 Feb 2009 10:11

LMAO

Beyonce
06 Feb 2009 10:18

Where is Dimags to answer these burning question?? lol

Beyonce
06 Feb 2009 10:19

*Questions*

mjj
06 Feb 2009 10:26

BA who is "we" in this sentence: "we are also misusing our employers money"??? LOL

I'm abusing no one's money....i use my own bandwidth.....lol

ok on a serious note......we should stay away from creating our own on Volcanos just because of tabloids......

Where is Nonny.....Eish they don't want me to speak to Manto at the Presidency, they are telling me she's in cpt.....I wonder what will she wear.....

Cande
06 Feb 2009 10:32

I also will like to watch the red carpet now *misusing the employer's money* MJJ, my manager's office is close to the TV..eish

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 10:35

BA who is "we" in this sentence: "we are also misusing our employers money"??? LOL

I also will like to watch the red carpet now *misusing the employer's money* and all those who shout goodbyes from 16h00 - 18h00 and goodmorning from 07h30 to 09h00 and are no where to be found btn 18h30-07h00.

LOL

mjj
06 Feb 2009 10:43

wena Cande no BA nisile.....people have no money they have to use the employer's money....LOL

and all those who shout goodbyes from 16h00 - 18h00 and goodmorning from 07h30 to 09h00 and are no where to be found btn 18h30-07h00......kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa....

There's a red carpet???? What time is the broadcast? I'm not far from the Union Buildings maybe they will have a big screen.....let me call the Presidency Office again....

Cande
06 Feb 2009 10:52

Its playing now on e news channel

realist
06 Feb 2009 10:54

and all those who shout goodbyes from 16h00 - 18h00 and goodmorning from 07h30 to 09h00 and are no where to be found btn 18h30-07h00.
Who would they be?

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 11:05

Who would they be?

ME and other others whom we together say "until tomorrow bloggers, bye" between 16h00-18h00.

realist
06 Feb 2009 11:07

Myself included I do not blog after 16h00.

mjj
06 Feb 2009 11:16

Cande you have a TV in your office? Hayi usis 'khokho....anyway bathi on news24 there we no hats this year....

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2465366,00.html

Does anyone know if T-boz attended the opening of parliament????

Dimago
06 Feb 2009 11:22

The source of this article is newspapers and internet. I did not make any of this up!

realist
06 Feb 2009 11:23

The star newspaper headline says Tbos snubs parliament. I pressume he did not attend.

monchooza
06 Feb 2009 11:24

This is the last state of the nation address for me the next one will be after the 2014 elections...hopefully it will be by a very dignified president, in my books

Dimago
06 Feb 2009 11:31

@realist, according to the speaker of parliament; the state of the nation address was initially scheduled for the 3rd of Feb, but KM was not going to be available. It was then moved to today, but Tbos had prior plans. So its not snubbing according to her

mjj
06 Feb 2009 11:32

explain this one Dimago - But after this stunt (cheating on his wife with multiple women) I’m not sure where I stand with him......

Monchooza what's happening in 2014? Are we voting in 2014???

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 11:37

The source of this article is newspapers and internet. I did not make any of this up!

Which newspaper(and the date if possible), i real want to see which news paper said that KM cheated on his wife with multiple women

if you dont mind please also provide me with search criteria and search engine you used ..or just give me the links.... i would real like to see for myself.

realist
06 Feb 2009 11:40

@Dimago: Was this the nations address or the state of the nation? I am not sure because Luthuli house seems to be calling the shots and dictating what KM should say. Personally what matters most to me is what Trevor Manuel is going to say.

Anyway thanks for the clarity, I now get it.

Dimago
06 Feb 2009 11:41

@ mjj, whats there to explain? It is what it is.

BA - multiple women means more than one woman, and as written in the article there's 2 women involved. The 45yr old and the 24 yrs old.

mjj
06 Feb 2009 11:42

lol @ realist....

Update from cpt - http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-02-06-our-nation-is-in-a-good-state

Positivity1
06 Feb 2009 11:42

Guys please vote. Remember if you don't vote you will have a whole lot of white people voting for DA and then they will be in power again! Let's elbow them guys until we are sure that they have really changed for the better.

At least voutela COPE ge if you don't want to vote for the ANC. he's still ANC but at least we don't discandal tsa Ntate Terror.

Or try Ntate was Christian Democratic Party. He once claimed that he never cheated on his wife! Ha jolle mosadi wa gagwe!

Dimago
06 Feb 2009 11:46

@realist, its state of the nation. But i agree, Trevor's speech is more important as we already know what the state of the nation is.

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 11:49

BA - multiple women means more than one woman, and as written in the article there's 2 women involved. The 45yr old and the 24 yrs old.

Which newspaper said anything about a 45 yr old or just help me with the link, please

mjj
06 Feb 2009 11:50

Mara wena positive you write racist statements............

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa @ Ntate Terror......

He once claimed that he never cheated on his wife! Ha jolle mosadi wa gagwe!......why would he cheat if he shares Styling Gel with his wife? kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa

Cande
06 Feb 2009 11:51

Ba, sunday world last weekend

mjj
06 Feb 2009 11:54

BA yekela Di please......lol

Anyway i didn;t know the DA has a youth league.......http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-02-05-the-politics-of-youth

realist
06 Feb 2009 11:57

Which newspaper said anything about a 45 yr old or just help me with the link, please
I think it is the Sunday times. Dimago is correct, according to the newspaper article it was said two women were involved and it is reported that he is divorced from his wife. Personally I do not believe anything coming from the print media.

Remember they always say it is in the best interest of the public. My foot it is in the best interest of the public. If you paid for that newspaper then it is not in the best interest of the public but in the best interest of their readers.

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 11:59

Ba, sunday world last weekend

i read that article more than 5 times already there is nothing about multiple women or 45yr old who left her husband for KM

mjj
06 Feb 2009 12:05

Update 2 - http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2465411,00.html

Cande
06 Feb 2009 12:07

ohk, the 45 yr old who left her husband for KM was on news24 last week. Why is everyone demanding proof from Dimago today?? why is it that u dont believe things written about public figures that u like but other's you do without wanting to hear a confirmation from the victim...nee maan do u guys think Dimago would have created this stories by herself??

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:07

BA, maybe u must check all the Sunday Newspapers,

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 12:08

the worst thing about this is

at the end of these newspaper article, they do state that
"so and so" could not be reached for comment, so what makes these allegations factual?

mjj
06 Feb 2009 12:09

realist uyang' hlekisa yazi........am i correct to assume that this is the same newspaper that said the President is lonely a week b4 the new story of the president cheating???? I guess Dimago belives the latter version of the story.....now lets concentrate on something new......like the Budget speech.....

let me phone the presidency again...hopefully they'll be nice this time.....

Cande
06 Feb 2009 12:14

obviously the newspaper went back to their drawing board and went to dig deeper

Dimago
06 Feb 2009 12:15

BA, kahle kahle what is your issue? Cos you clearly have one. I'm not going to entertain your questions anymore, i told u i didn't make any of this up and i DON'T have to provide you with any proof!!!

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 12:16

Why is everyone demanding proof from Dimago today??
i only asked Dimago since she is the author of the article and he didnt acknowledge any source..

why is it that u dont believe things written about public figures that u like but other's you do without wanting to hear a confirmation from the victim...nee
i dont believe everything i read here hence all this proof business ... and i didnt think it will be that difficult just to send the link.

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:16

standing ur ground firmly, LOL

mjj
06 Feb 2009 12:18

repeat that Cande......eish this friday has been boring i just want some one to make it alive.....let me go and sign the water guy

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:19

BA, get a subscription with all the newspaper, even daily sun and make sure u read ol of them thoroughly, then u wont need anybody to provide with proof or links..

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 12:19

BA, kahle kahle what is your issue? Cos you clearly have one
issue???? No i dont have any issue, i wanted to know and that's all.

mjj
06 Feb 2009 12:21

There are 4 guys smelling standing in front of me...they are demanding that i must sign the water delivery paper as proof that they've delivered water.....

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 12:21

BA, get a subscription with all the newspaper, even daily sun and make sure u read ol of them thoroughly, then u wont need anybody to provide with proof or links..

Only if you promise to pay for me.

realist
06 Feb 2009 12:22

am i correct to assume that this is the same newspaper that said the President is lonely a week b4 the new story of the president cheating????
Yep it is and therefore Dimago is correct.

obviously the newspaper went back to their drawing board and went to dig deeper
To satisfy their readers. My question is this: Is it in the best interest of the public or is it in the best interest of the print media?

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:24

I think u earn enaf to pay for ur own subscription, remember "The Secret" u once 'talkd" about, so gal u have enaf..

Cande
06 Feb 2009 12:26

LOL @ the smelling guys.. realist, for a public figure obviously it will be in the best interest of the public..

Beyonce
06 Feb 2009 12:27

Drop it now kids! i reses manje, go eat your kota.

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 12:28

I think u earn enaf to pay for ur own subscription, remember "The Secret" u once 'talkd" about, so gal u have enaf..

i do remember it and im earning enough but not enough for your suggestion.

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 12:29

Drop it now kids! i reses manje, go eat your kota.

LOL

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:31

then google ur questions coz asking for the links is just too much,,,,and if dima tells u which newspapers she got the news from, what are u gonan do?? call sunday worls/times and ask them for a copy??

KeleFabulous
06 Feb 2009 12:31

hawu Dimags, a second siriyas article from you in less than 10 minutes? ke eng kanti? it's friday, boph'i phondo!

anyhow boys will be boys. they may be men and be respected etc etc but when it comes to ipipi a man will be a boy and do what boys do

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:32

Yes Mistress Bheyonse!!

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:34

Heloo KeleFab,,I owe you BIG TIME sisi, THANX a mill

KeleFabulous
06 Feb 2009 12:37

for what now, Awe?

Cande
06 Feb 2009 12:38

LOL @ Bhiyonse

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:39

@Kfab: will send u a PM now-now,, this site has gossiper/s, u know urself,

Dimago
06 Feb 2009 12:44

Kele the other article is from Jan gal...u've been missing for a while now. Its good to see you around.

awelani
06 Feb 2009 12:49

check ur Pm's Kele..

mjj
06 Feb 2009 12:51

eish the 4 guys left....Thank God

KeleFabulous
06 Feb 2009 12:53

thanks ma boo's

is this the Beyonce wa rona, i mean Bheyonse? what hole did you crawl out from? hehehehe

Dimago
06 Feb 2009 12:57

...what hole did you crawl out from? hehehehe
I'm sure she'll ask the same of you. Looking forward to the FABULOUS articles.

Beyonce
06 Feb 2009 13:23

@Kele: hheh?... no hole I'm afraid lol

mjj
06 Feb 2009 13:33

I heard that the Suspendend DJ Sbu was attending the Opening.....I wonder who was his date....

TDC why was Sbu suspended???

awelani
06 Feb 2009 13:37

this is for u mjj: http://www.tvsa.co.za/default.asp?blogname=missinginaction&ArticleID=10532 >>> LOL

mjj
06 Feb 2009 13:42

Awe - Dimago and myself have an agreement....

realist
06 Feb 2009 13:46

realist, for a public figure obviously it will be in the best interest of the public..
If it is free then yes. If I’m paying for it no way.

JuneRose
06 Feb 2009 13:53

Hi mabloggers,

you wouldn't guess who are here in PARLIAMENT and what are they wearing!!!

S'bu Leope
Khanyi Mbau
Chomie
Arthur
Phillmon Masinga
Kau (comedian)
and other (i'm running out of space i can't mention all of them)

Mjj your are fantastic (your comments).

It shows that some how some where you have studied politics (jok)

mjj
06 Feb 2009 13:56

JuneRose what are they doing there? SInce when do Z-list celebrities get invites to Parliament

sjura
06 Feb 2009 13:58

i saw former Miss SA----- T- Coetzee!!!!!!!!! Awe check ur PM

JuneRose
06 Feb 2009 14:58

I think they came to show us the other side (the coolest one) celebrities, u know a coin has two sides mos. S'bu was the busy going up and down, Khanyi the coolest one, i've never seen Ms Mthembu like that, i think see was sick or something. now they went to CTICC for posing (photo shoot).

mabhebheza
06 Feb 2009 15:59

Arthur in parliament hehehe ...watch out a a one line hit single is cumin out
Khanyi & Chomie maar bathanda izinto y bezi pesha in parliament as 4 Philimon Masinga i have no words .....Sbu yena is a mayoniasse we al knw dat uhlala ezi mixa!!

June Rose ...wozanazo ingathi unguqala azive nje....*cyber hug*

mjj
06 Feb 2009 16:22

i just heard that the ANC is launching a campaign don't know its name but its something related to Celebrities endorsing the ANC......Nkosi what is Khanyi and Chomie have to say about Politics???? Apparently the launch will happen in some club in Cape town where all the "Zelebrities" that are endorsing ANC will be paraded........Forgot the name of the club....its a famous club in cpt......

let me get back to my sleep.....

carino
06 Feb 2009 16:26

hello, mjj..

ms.tebby
06 Feb 2009 16:33

mjj....please take care of us, my ribs are all gone! they crack with every comment you put up here...
junerose pliz do you have a camera?

Cande
06 Feb 2009 16:36

MJJ pls check ur wek e-mails..someone has been fired.

Segololo
06 Feb 2009 16:50

hey my friend!

I missed the article and read all the replies.. I know that my respect for either of the men is tarnished... how old are they? to be fornicating with 24 year olds? really now?!!!! hai!
and these are the people we want as our future leaders.. those 24 year olds could be their own childrens ages... hai!
let me not upset myself at these old men's behaviour... all I have is the power to vote. and I will make sure I am registered to vote for someone fit to set a "precedent" of great leadership...

ke lame leo

and yah, don't entertain some things said to make you feel you do not have a voice or right to voice your opinion, regardsless of source... keep telling us what you hear and see...

Best-Achiever
06 Feb 2009 17:12

Nkosi what is Khanyi and Chomie have to say about Politics???? Apparently the launch will happen in some club in Cape town where all the "Zelebrities" that are endorsing ANC will be paraded

LOL, and these will be ANC ambassador celebrities? ...

Arthur in parliament hehehe ...watch out a a one line hit single is cumin out
tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl

Peace, it is

mjj
06 Feb 2009 21:10

Guys i'm not lying about this Celebrity endorsement.......a fellow prominent celebrity woman is the one handling the co-ordination of this........

Really now...what does Khanyi and Chomie know about Parliament......i'm sure they didn't know that parliament is open to the public for educational touring free of charge.....they probably got excited about being invited to the opening ceremony......

Another funny thing is the fact that when the ANC launched its MANIFESTO they had a fundraising dinner before the launch....guess who was performing at the Dinner? Chomie????? Really now, we all know old men are the biggest perverts but Chomie performing at an ANC fundraising dinner....

Anyway its the SAFTAs 2moro..........and i heard that Nonhle will be doing the red carpet with her american fake hair and accent........she better not say "Its your girl Nonhle"........i swear i will do something to her hair.....Pitoli is my adopted home.....

mjj
06 Feb 2009 21:13

Hi Carino.......i just woke up and the next thing i see on my TV is that loud girl from LIVE and that american dude.....Nkosi let me go back to sleep again......

Floh
06 Feb 2009 21:43

I haven't read the whole article, bear with me if I repeat any mentioned statements.

Over the weekend, I asked my man while he was reading the sunday paper that " are we really interested in who the president is bedding, as for me I careless, the only thing I need is delivery kwaphela qha...........ubufebe obukanoma ngubani.

On the HIV part................go to Jozi town..........you will pass through to more than a thousand of woman, all pregnant. I am not sure if it still exist( aids)

And I came into realisation today that I don't know the deputy president of the country.......what does that mean ? DISASTER, but I erge you all ma South Africans, let us give the opposition parties the powers. There are many things that had happened and we the public never liked them, and yes the opposition parties had the strong workable points but because the MAJORITY is NANDOS and they don't have much to say, the decisons were made.
I mean the recalling of the President and the Disband of Scorpions.

Hi mjj........she still on my telly ( Bonang), wena dream but ungasuzi.
Going back to read all the replies.

Cande
07 Feb 2009 09:31

How was the red square MJJ???

Foxxy
07 Feb 2009 10:41

Remember how all the celebs in America where publicly supporting Obama? Well, same thing here.

Toxic
07 Feb 2009 11:44

CANDE, pls go to FB!!!!!!!!!!

Floh
08 Feb 2009 05:21

He,he Dimags.........your story continues

The woman claimed to be attacked by 3 Zulu speaking woman. And she is also have a first born with Kgalema. Yho, Yho,Yho.

Cande
08 Feb 2009 11:01

Yes Floh, i also read sunday World..lmao it seems every week they dig deeper & deeper

Kakapana
08 Feb 2009 13:15

apperantly its all lies....

Bra Bizza
08 Feb 2009 14:06

Why is everyone not commenting,now that the woman have publicly admitted that she lied about Kgalema....when will South Africans grow up to learn not to believe everything in the tabloits

Kakapana
08 Feb 2009 14:24

i'm still confused as to why this woman made up all this allegations. she sounds a bit pyscho

mjj
08 Feb 2009 14:26

i said it last week in not so many words that we as people should stop creating our own volcanos........the funny thing is that all 3 publications i read today are saying the woman was lying.......

Nqeqe
08 Feb 2009 14:27

Ayeye Dimags sfunukuzwa

Kakapana
08 Feb 2009 14:30

cha cha cha its not dimago's fault, as she clearly stated last week that she was just saying what she had read in the papers....surely most of us read these allegations...

mjj
08 Feb 2009 14:41

i think people missed the plot.....Dimago didn't write last weeks stories on newspapers BUT she made certain allegations and she made certain decisions based on reports that were not proved to be truthful.....

Decisions:

I held the man in high regard. But after this stunt (cheating on his wife with multiple women) I’m not sure where I stand with him. I guess the HIV message has not registered in any of these people (politicians). Why do our politicians have such irresponsible sexual behaviour?

Allegation:

Clearly he’s been sleeping with both women, and for the 24 yr old to fall pregnant means precautions are not as high on his agenda as Zimbabwe is......

Then again the flip side of the story is, what if all the 3 newspapers were lying about the woman's new stories??????

Sometimes we should reflect b4 reacting....Hayi its sunday why am i wasting my energy on Politics?????

Cande
08 Feb 2009 14:56

Bra Bizza, if u dont mind me asking where did she publicly admit to tlying? what newspaper?? is it available online?? am broke so i can only access newspapers online

Kakapana
08 Feb 2009 15:03

@ Cande i know you're asking bra bizza, but ja i read the story kwi sunday tribune and you can also read it kwi sunday independent...judging by what i read the woman sounds confused

Brown Shuga
08 Feb 2009 15:16

<<<<@ Cande i know you're asking bra bizza, but ja i read the story kwi sunday tribune and you can also read it kwi sunday independent>>>> Yeah, and the Sunday times refers to those stories on their front page.
It's all politics, she was probably paid by one of the opposition parties to come up with that story.

Onna
08 Feb 2009 15:30

Cande, u can go to iol.co.za. They have the story. I am starting to smell a Zuma rape type of story here.

mabhebheza
08 Feb 2009 16:56

true dat BS...phela politics is a dirty bizniss bayathanda ukuninda ngamafuta nje ngomsholozi yena uyancinca ngamafutha wenyama akangayityanga!!

& i smell COPE ..lol

Kakapana
08 Feb 2009 17:46

lol@ amafutha...

Cande
08 Feb 2009 19:45

The old man(Motlanthe) just said he doesnt want the president job on SABC 1, i like & respect this man 24 year olds or not

Firstdvd
08 Feb 2009 19:46

@ least now we can put this behind us...Zuma & Motlanthe - Birds of a feather?????????

Sdudla
08 Feb 2009 21:29

I told myself I wouldn't comment last week and I still don't want to say much but.. If my President is running my country properly (delivery of services etc) then I don't care what he does with his willy.

1. Sex and politics go together like peanut butter and jam. Therefore, politicians (especially males) are always up for a bit of hanky panky and not particularly with their wives. That's what power (and the availability of women who know what to do in-order to get ahead rapidly) does to you. These guys regardless of political affiliation all do it, the trick is to be discreet or to at least choose classy women who won't blab about it to their friends or the media.

2. If you're a politician there's always someone who's trying to shaft you (just as you'll have bootlickers) so people will create stories, bring "dirty" aspects of your private life to the public in-order to discredit you. Conspiracies and smear campaigns do exist.

All I'm trying to say is that we mustn't believe everything we read in the media because the media houses have people who own them, run them and who have their own agendas too.

We (as the public) also need to stop getting hysterical over political sex scandals and realise that extra-marital affairs are part of the daily political life. The French (Francois Mitterand, Nicholas Sarkozy) and the Italians (Bellusconi) etc can teach us a bit about this. Yes we're still "young in our democracy" but let's remember that politicians by virtue of being politicians will be slightly shady and "immoral" individuals. They need to be like that to survive in their job. If we want Saints for our leaders then we're in deep trouble. This also goes for politics and corruption too by the way.

Uxolo for da blog within a blog.

Nqeqe
09 Feb 2009 10:25

BigMama
09 Feb 2009 13:34

Are we getting the update on the Motlanthe and the 24year old pregnant first lady, or kanjani?

Floh
12 Feb 2009 17:51

Maybe she want the scholarship to go study to New York University, akere the one who accused Msholozi of rape is also somewhere overseas. Kuyarherezwa bafwethu!

Brown Shuga
12 Feb 2009 19:00

lol Floh...

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