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A Good Woman Should Stay in An Abusive Marriage

Written by Cody from the blog on 18 Feb 2009
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A good woman should stay in an abusive relationship. This is true...or is it? 






I bet some of you are thinking this is crazy neh?............. Well i think i am, this craziness started with five words from a women’s bible study group, which created a lot of misunderstanding , confusion, questioning yourself as a woman….basically all of the unpleasant feelings that any women shouldn't feel, for some it really put things into perspective. For me it left me feeling like a failure in what I’m pursuing... as if i will not get there..

Eph 5v. 22-24 “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Saviour. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.”

As a woman who has just started learning about the bible and finding my feet as a Christian woman, it left me with a lot of questions. In the discussion, we started wondering exactly what it meant to “submit to your husband” does this involve being looked down upon, mistreated or disgraced? Does it mean woman should obey their husbands blindly? Does it only apply to our grandmothers and our parents? According to tradition, a man’s word is final, even if you don’t agree with your spouse but what is says is it, the woman must just obey and keep quite. Well keeping quite and not stating your opinion is considered to be one of the attributes of a “good woman”."Mother" said nowadays we young woman talk too much, we will never have a good marriage like in their days. The thing is good people, I wanted to tell "mother" that ,we are not like our grandmothers who sat at home without jobs, and depended on their husbands to make ends meet, nowadays women haba qeke banna period! (They don’t beg men) more especially if you can afford yourself, we just don’t put up with nonsense, somehow the cat caught my tounge and i couldn't object to "mother's" statement, afraid of being labeled a disrespectful child, as I am the youngest in the group. So I had to pretend as if I understand, so did everyone, i was nodding my head like crazy..LOL



The woman I call “mother” is older, she is a pensioner, she is the one giving us bible studies and basically guiding us, although I had a problem this past Monday, I find her to be a very wise woman, a mother, and all things a Christian woman should be. She told us that if your man didn’t come home the previous night and happened to pitch up in the morning, you should make him a plate of warm food, run him a bath and not ask questions or yell at him, and further stated that, if your man strays and unfortunately impregnates another woman, you should forgive your husband and raise that child with all your children…….. Does this mean men are permitted to mistreat us? At this point my blood pressure shot up from 20 to almost 90 in a split second! it felt as if i had piles, i couldn't sit well in my chair!!!!

Now, with that being said, nna as an individual and a modern woman I have a HUGE problem with learning to keep quite and being a “yebo baba” woman. Especially when I don’t agree with some things, there are some things that I will not tolerate and that i can tolerate, this makes me think that I will never get married, or basically I will never be the “good christian wife”. Does stating my opinion or arguing regarding an issue make me a woman who lacks Christian morals?
Does our own career developments as modern woman blind us from being the woman God wants us to be?

 








She gave us some examples to practice with our boyfriend or husbands for this week, just to practice submission, as on sunday we will give her feedback and she will take the topic further, and boy do I find it difficult to keep my trap shut.... or being submissive rather!! 

Not be misunderstood here fellows, I am not questioning the word of God, nor am i saying it is wrong, I just want a clarification, because I am sure God does not expect us to stomach emotional and physical abuse. I must have misunderstood.

So before I loose my mind, can you please tell me what you understand about woman submitting to their husbands? Could being less submissive be the contributing factor to failure of marriages?………maybe I am missing something, somewhere here. 

Even if you just have married friends, boyfriends, girlfriends or if you just have a relationship with Jesus Christ, your input is required.



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Dimago
17 Feb 2009 15:49

Interesting topic MaCz....i'll be back with my response.

cleve
17 Feb 2009 15:57

Girl I know it hurts I also wanted to cry when I first heard this at church. It still makes me want to scream. Even when reading your article it just brings tears to my eyes how woman were born to serve and submit to men.

Will reply properly tomorrow.

myname
17 Feb 2009 15:59

Its long but let me try & read

tracy
17 Feb 2009 16:00

will print this out and read at home  its 4pm and have to go

Ms. Jay
17 Feb 2009 16:02

this was a really good article hey - well done...I would love to reply it when I feel better....you raised some good points

Dimago
17 Feb 2009 16:06

I agree that the bible says we must submit, but we have not been called to be doormats. People will misinterprete the bible for their own benefit. We have beeb created in the image of God, that means we are not less of humans than men are.

I'd say take what she says with a pinch of salt, she maybe wise but she is not God. God has given us brains, let us use them to decide what is right and wrong.

She told us that if your man didn’t come home the previous night and happened to pitch up in the morning, you should make him a plate of warm food, run him a bath and not ask questions or yell at him, and further stated that, if your man strays and unfortunately impregnates another woman, you should forgive your husband and raise that child with all your children…….. 
I don't agree with this. The bible makes provision for divorce and unfaithfulness is one of the permitted reasons a woman or man can file for divorce.

Cande
17 Feb 2009 16:06

LOL @ the pictures..LMAO!!!!

u4me
17 Feb 2009 16:06

i will check first in the dictionery the definition of the word "GOOD", may be i dont understand it well

myname
17 Feb 2009 16:06

Ok i managed to read it but dear askis i cant comment maan. I will wait 4 bloggers' response..... Interesting article BTW

Cande
17 Feb 2009 16:10

LOL@ the 3rd picture

Cande
17 Feb 2009 16:22

VERY interesting topic Macz

andi01
17 Feb 2009 16:36

if your man strays and unfortunately impregnates another woman,- this is called adultery, and the bible says its a sin-you should forgive your husband and raise that child with all your children,   If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. Luke 17:3.

As  humans, it is not our place to judge, its God's only. The bible says we should forgive to be forgiven by the father.
Also your man as the head of the house, should be abiding by the Lord's commandments and not commit adultery, however if the devil uses him and he ends going astray, its up to you to remain in God's word and forgive, or follow ur husbands footstesps and do as he did. But the Lord advices you not to, for he knows that the product of sin is death.

Normal
17 Feb 2009 16:40

She told us that if your man didn’t come home the previous night and happened to pitch up in the morning, you should make him a plate of warm food, run him a bath and not ask questions or yell at him, and further stated that, if your man strays and unfortunately impregnates another woman, you should forgive your husband and raise that child with all your children……..

If I have to spend the night alone in the house while my partner is sleeping around and say nothing I am opening myself to abuse ,and dont forget  this is an era where HIV AIDS rule, who wants to contract diseases in the name of being submissive. 

I don't agree with the context that this teaching is based on.

nice
17 Feb 2009 16:47

Macz, you took your time in writing the article and it shows. How refreshing, well done!

For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church.

I will submit to the man, who is submissive to God and any man who submits to God will submit to his will and will never abuse or be faithful to any woman. I believe it is a hierachy my dear, and which is why it is important that when you marry you do so with a Christian man (not Christian ngegama, it has to be in actions as well).

You know Christ loved the church as his body so much that he sacrificed his life for it, and that we may not be condemmed to death. The husband as the head should also love you in the same manner, to give up his life for you and believe me once you find a man like that you will never be disappointed and submitting wont be an issue because you will know how protected you are under his arm.

i find a lot of people quote this verse but do not try to interpret well and in the process balahlekisa isizwe. A man that will cheat and abuse does not show love to you and as a Christian who is always trying to understand the Word I know that I will not stay in an abusive relationship.

nice
17 Feb 2009 16:49

.....................or be unfaithful ...............

sponono
17 Feb 2009 17:05

submit to Christ, because he's good, a provider,  kind and loving...he's NOT a bullying, shouting controlling and abusive LORD...if your husband has christ-like behaviour and principles then the quote is appropriate...so I think lomama should analyse that quote properly, and not just use it to force her conservative beliefs on you...

and girls dont be emotional about this , just think of what you REEALLY want form your man...some of you wont admit it, because of the whole feminist movement hype..some of you actually want a man in charge of everything so you'll alaways be a little girl...you just dont want to be mistreated...but the whole "indepenednt woman thing is overrated..religion or not

now mina I want my woman subisive, but I'll be nice too...just not too nice...LOL

Tshd21
17 Feb 2009 17:34

If your man strays and unfortunately impregnates another woman, you should forgive your husband and raise that child with all your children…….. 

That is called adultery, therefore, calls for divorce. 

Personally, I don't have a problem with being "submissive" to a good man. I don't mind the usual 'duties" that comes with being a woman (I do have my limits though), even though I don't like them that much, BUT, what if the man is abusive?? Do you just and lcontinue being a doormat etting him  wipe his feet on your head?? No.....

I think this 'rule' applies to good men only. A good man who will not abuse you,  but treat  you with nothing but respect, love and appreciation. A man who understands the word of God and what it means to be a good man, in a twisted kind of way.....

Great article dudette... :)





Cnglemother
17 Feb 2009 19:13

I hear u tshidilele-interesting stuff.

Tshd21
17 Feb 2009 19:35

This article is such a breath of fresh air...

Best-Achiever
17 Feb 2009 20:39

Great Article Macz.


Eph 5v. 22-24 “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Saviour. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.”

 What i gather from this is:

A wife should submit to her husband and the husband should submit to God, so both husband and wife has a responsibility to submit. The hierarchy starts with God being head to Christ, then Christ to man and man to woman, so is the submission and that hierarchy must not be broken. She should answer to her husband as she would to God, respect her husband as she respect God. The husband also should do the same unto God. A Husband must understand and know submission so that he will recognize it from the wife and not abuse or take advantage of it.

Submission is not supposed to be the superiority of the husband or the inferiority of the wife but it is the honor that the wife gives to her husband in recognition to the husband's authority to his leadership. It does not mean that a wife is obligated to follow should her husband lead her into sin but a commitment to support her husband to reach his full potential as a man of God.

well i think it will be very difficult to be submissive toa husband who doesnt understand submission himself.

Onna
17 Feb 2009 22:45

This issue of submission it a thorny one, maily because people use it to abuse us women. And we  "take it" like a good woman.
Its disturbing thou that in this day and age there are still people who think I as a woman should let a man stray and not ask any questions. What if he does not come back with a bustard baby but HIV ?so, I should still submit till death. Somehow I think this is just not wise. There are so many things in the bibel that people intepreat to cover thier rotten asses.
Only thing I know is i would not stand that isht from anyone married or not. If means going to hell then so be it.

extinct
17 Feb 2009 23:17

K couldn't read all but what i can say is this i'm also a born again christian woman and before all it states men should love the wife as christ loved the church then the woman wil submit and if a man loves u he'l respect u i'm talkin bout a christian man because the bible say what does light and darkness have to do with each other for this submission to be easier is if ur married to a bible believin man who wont cheat u beat u up and curse u cause he is the head he's playin the role of a good leader and he's tryin to be like christ so if u get married to someone who fears God submission is easy

Sbosh
18 Feb 2009 00:16

Men deny the responsibility of their leadership role, and women usurp that authority, and then God’s glory is not as clearly seen and the husband and wife miss out on the joy of their God-given roles.

Segololo
18 Feb 2009 00:34

gal. it 12:33 a.m and i just saw your EXCELLENT blog now... will respond tomorrow, neh? or rather later...

Toxic
18 Feb 2009 07:37

if your man strays and unfortunately impregnates another woman, you should forgive your husband and raise that child with all your children…….. Does this mean men are permitted to mistreat us? At this point my blood pressure shot up from 20 to almost 90 in a split second! it felt as if i had piles, i couldn't sit well in my chair!!!! 

hahhahahahahah!!! i can imagine.

I've given up on getting married. i'm just not cut up to be what women back in the days were to their husbands. i can't not speak my mind and i have difficulty submitting to another human being. 

Best-Achiever
18 Feb 2009 07:57

True extinct

that chapter continues to say that
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church.

so submission and respect goes hand in hand.

extinct
18 Feb 2009 08:14

So BA do u think if someone lover themselve would they ever hurt their own flesh so find a man who loves u and respect u for he wil never try to hurt u

GML
18 Feb 2009 08:24

My mother said to me that if you strongly disagree with your man about something, make him aware that you dont agree with him. If it means you fight about it then it's fine- But you should SUBMIT to him buy later apologising for the manner in which you spoke to him.

Submitting in this case means that you surrender after standing up for what you believe in. She says you say sorry to him and then tell him you love him

I have done that and I found that as a woman you feel better after telling him *bleep!* coz you are not bottling things up---- the apologising part of it was hard at first

Best-Achiever
18 Feb 2009 08:25

So BA do u think if someone lover themselve would they ever hurt their own flesh

Not At All extinct. i was pointing out that if the husband love their wives as they love themself, then they wont hurt them.

i once read this beautiful quote from Nonny

A woman’s heart should be so hidden in Christ, that a man should have to seek Him first to find her.” 
this helps and make things a whole lot easier

nice
18 Feb 2009 08:34

“A woman’s heart should be so hidden in Christ, that a man should have to seek Him first to find her.” 

Wow that is something I tell you. Where is Nonny by the way, she seems to have disappeared!

GML
18 Feb 2009 08:35

First Peter - Chapter 3:1-2,5-6

1. In the same way, you wives must accept the authority of your husbands, even those who refuse to accept the Good News. Your godly lives will speak to them better than any words. They will be won over
2. by watching your pure, godly behavior.
5. That is the way the holy women of old made themselves beautiful. They trusted God and accepted the authority of their husbands.
6. For instance, Sarah obeyed her husband, Abraham, when she called him her master. You are her daughters when you do what is right without fear of what your husbands might do.

This for me means that women should always do what is right even when they know it will upset their husbands as God will calm the husband down- they will be won over by God so that they can see the and submit to GOD

blueroze
18 Feb 2009 08:38

the bible  clearly states that Women must submit to their husband as to the Lord.
the Lord does not abuse women, right?
men must not abuse women.
so my take on this is that women must submit to a husband that treat her with respects and love (the Lord loves a woman as His child, therefore He will never hurt them); and the woman must leave as soon as the relationship gets sour.









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