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Forced Love (25 August 2009)

Written by TVSA Team from the blog Special Assignment on 25 Aug 2009
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Coming up on Special Assignment (25 August 2009):

Episode Title: Forced Love
Broadcast date: Tuesday, 25 August 2009

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Tonight Special Assignment examines the centuries old practice of ‘uku thwala’ in the Eastern Cape. This comes with a rise in abduction of teenage girls in the province. It is believed many of these girls are being forced into early marriages.

The Congress of Traditional Leaders in South Africa and the Human Rights Commission have condemned the abductions. Police say they are acting against it. Police spokesperson Mzukisi Fatyela adds: "We do not have mercy towards people who violate other people's rights. So we arrest those who abduct children and force them into marriage."

Human Rights Watch says it will conduct educational campaigns in the Eastern Cape to educate residents about the importance of children's rights.

‘Ukuthwalwa’ has been equated to human trafficking. It’s ‘re-emergence’ has also been attributed to the worsening poverty in rural areas. This may be so - but there is a possibility that the culture has become so entrenched over time, that there are many people who still practice it who will not be dissuaded.

The show tells the story from the perspective of those who are living the culture as well as those who are the ‘victims’ and those who believe in its relevance.

The documentary is produced by Asanda Magaqa.



Special Assignment is on SABC3 on Tuesdays at 20h31.



36 Comments

cleve
25 Aug 2009 07:55

Mara why are people interfering withy people's culture's?

Best-Achiever
25 Aug 2009 08:01

Cleve .. im all for culture and respect SOME part of it, i  only respects the parts where all involved agree on doing certain things, so something like this is not acceptable in my own terms ....

cleve
25 Aug 2009 08:06

Why SOME of it? It's a tradition that has been practised for generations. People have undermined culture for too long that's why it's fading away into obscurity..

GML
25 Aug 2009 08:12

what are you saying cleve, That you would allow strange men to carry you to a house that you do not know and force you to become someone's wife. Where you will be forced to cook for them, clean, iron and have sex with a man you dont know?

Is that what you're saying. How would you as a mother allow for your child to be taken away from you only to be made a wife at a fragile age?

felfel
25 Aug 2009 08:14

So i take it u wouldn't have a problem with being forcefully married off to some strange old man with the idea off u popping babies as a hobby neh Cleve?
Just becos a 'tradition' has been practised for generations doesn't mean that it has always been acceptable to all involved parties, culture evolves, its not stagnant.

Best-Achiever
25 Aug 2009 08:14

I only respects the parts where all prties involved agree and enjoy practising that culture .... i cant imagine my lil sister being abducted by some 50 year old man simple because it is culture and he can afford to send the his whole kraal to my parents the following night ...Nee man.... i cant imagine all my sisters married to one man simple because the elder couldnt get children NO Cleve, Never. I cant imagine my parents choosing my life partner and making all the necessities without considering how i feel ..Jeez

Can you imagine the life that the person has to live for the rest of their lives? Hhayi never.

Tash 1
25 Aug 2009 08:17

Cleve, undahlule. But it's my culture too.  It's now only  practised in the remote areas where pple are less civilised.

GML
25 Aug 2009 08:23

@Cleve: how different is this from human trafficking? How different is it from raping because it boils down to that innocent soul sleeping with a man against her won free will.

I cannot believe in this day and age there are people who still shield amanyala and pass it off as culture. Or physical abuse and say it's love/or passion. Or verbal abuse as being outspoken and calling a spade a spade. When is wrong going to be wrong?

belz
25 Aug 2009 08:26

LOL! Yhu hayikengoku. kodwa iclasher neDH, will check it out ngama ads.

TerryN
25 Aug 2009 08:44

LMAO...is it still happening?
Honestly, I thought it was history.

Smilo
25 Aug 2009 08:57

i cant imagine all my sisters married to one man simple because the elder couldnt get children  - Its culture and what if they all agreed to it.

GML
25 Aug 2009 09:03

The word abduction is used here. Meaning it was not an agreement or they do not consent to it

Best-Achiever
25 Aug 2009 09:04

Smilo i said that because i know my sisters and i know they'll never agree to such, that's why i first said ... i only respect SOME PARTS of the culture where all involved agree to do that part of culture, well if they'll agree and be happy about it, they yeah why not

mstick
25 Aug 2009 09:13

Arg no, i thought this was only done in Lesotho......i'm shocked that its done in Eastern Cape....its just not right i watched a Doc abt the Lesotho 1 and i tell it was very disturbing i might not watch this tonight.

May we should have Xhosa's from the Easten Cape to come forth those who knows about this culture tell us how it affecte them and if they happy with it or maybe had a person experience on this.

But i still say culture of nie culture this is sick i also agree that its no diffirence to human trafficking, this needs to stop i'm sorry but ppl need to know whats happening and our Gov and community needs to do something about this......Gaaddd!

mstick
25 Aug 2009 09:15

Maybe

Ms personality
25 Aug 2009 09:18

Lento yokuthwalwa is it still happening???????? or are we just reminded about what was happening to our granny's and great granny's . i mean now day's we young girls only think about having good jobs and earning money for ourselves, choosing husbands of our likings than how the hell do my parent allow someold man to still my future from me, make me clean their house, look after children who do not have their own mommy's and even worse than bad have sex with them be pragnant year after year.........what about my purpose in this wold when will i get time to fulfil the treasure of my potential .......HEEE

maud
25 Aug 2009 09:19

which culture? who,s culture? this is very much unfair and cruel, how can you spend the rest of your life if an old tired stinking man just because of culture, why are all these terrible culture practised on woman. after all these years i dont believe there are people who are still doing this.

maud
25 Aug 2009 09:28

my family is from eastern cape, i know this is still happening and is one of the things that my grandmother never wanted us to grow up in Eastern Cape. although we never experienced it inside our family but around the area we new that a certain girl is now taken to be the wife, and mostly the husband is always twenty years older than the girl.

Ruby Red
25 Aug 2009 09:30

cant wait to watch

Ms personality
25 Aug 2009 09:36

Reply from: maud 8/25/2009 3:28:00 PM .....................mostly the husband is always twenty years older than the girl

@maud
are you serious about this age gab............yhooooooo its too much,

myname
25 Aug 2009 09:39

Is this thing still exists nha ekhaya? Its so ........(u will finish)

maud
25 Aug 2009 09:41

trust me as long as the husbant thigs he can still shosholoza  your in trouble. not realy twenty years as such but yes he is always old enough to be your father

Sslave
25 Aug 2009 09:43

IYooo!!! Some Cultures!!!

mstick
25 Aug 2009 09:48

hayi Maud eish its bad i dnt condone this kind of behavior its depressing to the victims.....

Ruby Red
25 Aug 2009 09:51

i havent had experience with this.

tell me, do proponetnts of this seemingly dastardly culture, advocate for the abduction of young boys to be made into husbands by (older) women?

i mean would it stll be acceptable to men, if it was vice versa?

Ruby Red
25 Aug 2009 09:56

if thats the age gap, then all those "husbands" are pedophiles!
and the prctise of this culture is actually human trafficking, child abuse, women abuse,rape.

myname
25 Aug 2009 10:02

In my area we no longer doing this. I come from a village not elokshini but hai maan they used to do this thing in some donkey years. Even in my mum's time, she chose her husband. I believe its so inhuman & so mabele.

I can imagine marrying some1 i ever seen with my 2 eyes. I never even dream about him. Geese!!! What if unesifo soxhuzulo? Hai maan even my late father wouldnt want his only daughter 2 marry a stranger eve if he is a mogul. Better they take their stupid cows & shove them far away from me, angekhe!

Sana Lwam
25 Aug 2009 10:03

Haibo ukuthwala kusenzeka in this day and age? 

I knew it did exist wayback in the days....but I also know in some parts of Transkei they have sort of "mordanised" the whole thing. They boyfriend "abducts" the girlfriend and then sends his family entourage to the girls family to let them know that he has taken her as an intention of marrying her and that they mustnt look for her. In that case I can say it is different bcoz the girl has already a relationship with the boy.

Ms personality
25 Aug 2009 10:10

as for the age gap these people should not be called husbands they are ABUSERS.........

i mean would it stll be acceptable to men, if it was vice versa?............NOP i dont think so because in the past it was always known that men are powerful than women and i don't think they would agree to wedd umagogo, i mean they believed ukuthi whatever is still fresh its for them............so men abused in the name of being a men

Pooky
25 Aug 2009 10:19

This whole mtwalo thing is just plain wrong. Talk about violating another human beings rights and then camouflaging and justifying their selfish actions as culture..

cleve
26 Aug 2009 08:53

O gohs thi swas the most boring special assignment report I have ever seen. They were not translating on time it was just a mess. I really thought it would evoke emotions in me mara niks. I was so dissapointed. Only the time where they were showing the 15 year old pregnant girl did it touch me.

Mathaz
26 Aug 2009 08:58

It started so late i even thought that SABC decided against it...it was only when the Profesor from UNISA explained what ukuthwala is that i undersood.  Back in the day if a guy and girl were inlove then he would orgainse his family to "abduct" you and the two families would then engage in talks about your marriage.  Nowadays it's wrong in a sense that they forcefully kindnap teenagers who know nothing about love, sex, marriage and their "husbands".  All in all it's an old age practice which has lost its value in modern day society.

cleve
26 Aug 2009 09:13

Thank you Mathaz, nami I thought it was like that mara either way the show was bad.

FK
26 Aug 2009 09:17

Missed this one - wanted so badly to watch it.

Yes Mathaz, that is correct.  In Sesotho we call it ho shobela.  This only happens when a guy and a girl are already in love.  I remember when I was in STD 9 (no grades back then) I accompanied a friend to go see her boyfie and she never came back.  I was then told that ba mo shobelisitse.

Also, back then, there was no go skepana (sleep over at your boyfies).  if the elders see you sneeking out from your boyfie's place, you are regarded as his wife and you are not allowed to go back to your family.  So ba tla go shobelisa.

Nowadays they are doing it incorrectly and that is human trafficking, rape and kidnap.

Mathaz
26 Aug 2009 09:47

@Cleve the quality of the show was not on, there was time when this girl was narrating her story and no translation, it's so unlike Special Assignment...let's blame the SABC for reducing costs of local content.

Sammis
26 Aug 2009 10:57

Yes Mathaz, that is correct. In Sesotho we call it ho shobela. This only happens when a guy and a girl are already in love. I remember when I was in STD 9 (no grades back then) I accompanied a friend to go see her boyfie and she never came back. I was then told that ba mo shobelisitse. LOL this is just too funny.


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