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Five words to describe your marriage

Written by Segololo from the blog Oprah Reviews on 02 Aug 2007
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Chamomile tea, late night Oprah and a warm blanket do not mix! I have to say this daily blogging is hard work! Can’t the SABC3 have an Omnibus of Oprah on Sunday afternoon…? hhhmmm! That would be 4 hours of watching Oprah just talk! Bad idea if you have to blog about all those shows! But I fully support KeleFab on the idea of moving Oprah to a later afternoon slot… We know it is supposedly “day-time” talk but really now, 16:00 is pushing it! We wouldn’t mind moving “Days” to earlier or off our screens completely, sorry for whoever does the Days blog! Then I can even look into blogging about Noeleen’s show – 2 hours of talk back-2-back!

Anyways, the topic was five words to describe your marriage; the guest was Gary Zukav – the author of “Seat of the soul”. Oprah swears by the book, she read it in 1989 and keeps a copy next to her bed – Why? I guess you and I have to read it to know or get some of the bloggers that have to tell us more about the book. King K who clearly does not hide that he doesn’t like Oprah was excited when he saw Gary; he apparently loved the book. Gary did not help much to keep me awake – he speaks with such calmness, peace and absolutely takes his time to say what he has to that to me it felt he was hypnotizing me to sleep. So I missed a lot of what he had to say – I tried to stay awake but please tell me how to fight Chamomile!? 

Gary Zukav
Gary Zukav

Gary started by explaining the kind of relationship we should all strive for – a spiritual connection and the “intention”. By this point all I was doing was nodding off to sleep and it was too much to figure out what “intention” means. For those who watched please fill in this blank space for me – I really missed the “intention” part. Does he mean we need to know why we get married to the people we marry or do we need to have an intention before getting married? Should we ask ourselves “What do I intend to achieve by this step? What do I intend getting from this union?” The spiritual connection part I kinda got – but fill in for me! 

Oprah revealed the results of a poll she did on her website to kick off the main topic of the day… The only result I was able to get was 60% of the people that responded believed in one soul mate… Ok! Are you part of that statistic? I don’t really know if I am… I know that different people come to satisfy a part of you at the time of the specific need for them to be there. Therefore you find different relationships are there to serve a specific need at a specific time in your life – For example I have tons of friends, but I know when to call each when I am going thru a specific phase in my life – When I was pregnant I mostly kept in touch with the friends that have children; when I was going through a work crisis I kept in touch with my career-focused friends! Most of my friends call me when they are going thru relationship drama – and I love the fact that I seem to satisfy the need they have at that time of their need. So one soul mate, I don’t know!

Our True Oprah-style guests were 3 couples that had to describe their marriage with five words. Jim and Sheila have been married 15 years, they fight all the time. I don’t know, hey? What can you do after 15 years of marriage? I have not seen a lot of couples that have been married even 5 years all cuddly and loving. They get on each other’s nerves and they fight. I personally believe if you know what you want to have in your family; you can try to do things that will encourage others to see your view. Oh! Don’t get me wrong; I believe that if you want something done right, do it yourself. If you want to be respected, respect others, they will in turn do the same. Not everybody but those that want to, will do so. Sheila says she’s a screamer… In my limbo sleep and awake state; I thought she was talking sexually. Dirty mind! Burt she actually means that she communicates by shouting! Hell, I hate screamers... They embarrass me as a woman. I just don’t see how you can achieve anything espech when you are trying to communicate your unhappiness by screaming! How can shouting and screaming at people get you anything except fear and withdrawal. If you are a screamer please tell me how this has helped your relationships? 

Jim and Sheila
Jim and Sheila

Jim described his marriage as                            Sheila described her marriage as

Sucks                                                                    Sad
Boring                                                                    Lonely
On edge                                                                Lacking
Tiring                                                                     Definitely On Edge
Empty                                                                   Tiring

I would be devastated if anyone defined my relationship with them like this. A blow to the ego and to my hopes and dreams! Sheila also admits to wanting her husband to make her feel like she is somebody… Puhlease, woman! You are somebody! Show him that you are somebody! You are gonna be waiting a long time, gal! He needs to see and know that you are somebody before his wife, sexual partner, and mother of his children… Let him know that by being the woman he fell in love with! Just be you! Screaming it at him won’t work, doll! Never! Gary also confirmed my theory that it all can't happen until Sheila believes and knows it herself. He told her that when she develops in her the strength and the clarity that lets her know that she is a soul on this earth with gifts to give, and that her painful experiences are self-created, she can begin to create differently. She needs to know what the “intention” was when she got into the relationship. As a great fan and follower of Iyanla Vanzant; in her book “acts of faith” there is a quote that says “If you wanna know the end, look at the beginning” – Sheila gal, get yourself a copy of Iyanla’s books!

At this point, My King K pokes my ribs and say’s “What are your five words? He clearly is in denial about his love for Oprah! He needs to come out and say “Yes, I like Oprah!” I know what words I want to see my marriage being, but I simply do not have words to describe it now. Words I have now just can’t come to mind – I want to be asked this question when I have been married five years. Now, we are just “Newlyweds”. I asked the question to him and he said “supportive, loving, spiritual, kind and … I can’t find the word!” I’ll ask again in three years on our fifth year anniversary.

Gary’s advise to the couple was to look for hope. How? I don’t know. He said they must draw on their negative energy to bring out the love. Something to that effect! They both admitted they would never consider divorce even though they thought about it. So I guess what Gary was saying instead of focusing on getting the divorce they must find ways to avoid the divorce. Do things that will make them look and see positiveness to avoid divorce. 

Alistair and Lisa
Alistair and Lisa

Lisa and Alistair have been married 12 years; they also used the same words Jim and Sheila used. Lisa defined her marriage as lifeless and resentful; Alistair described it as boring and unfulfilling. Sho! They say the community views them as the “it” couple but they just looked bored in their home. Do you ever wonder when you walk past happy looking couples how they really are in their homes? I know I do. I always wonder how Celebs like The Khumalo’s (Romeo and Basetsana), The Ferguson’s (Connie and hubby) and especially Melanie and Zwai when they were dating are like at home? I wonder how they are behind closed doors. Back to Oprah, They say they are college sweethearts. Alistair described his wife before they got married as “Supportive” and their dream being to take care of people and give to the community. But can’t he see that that is not working? Clearly all they are giving to the community is a wrong impression. Hasn’t he heard that Charity begins at home? I wanted to know whether he was implying that it is Lisa’s fault the marriage is “boring” to him. I was all awake at this stage… then Oprah went to an ad break, Chamomile took over!

Conclusion: I missed the rest of the show! Tonight I ain't drinking that damn tea! So what's your take on this five words description for your relationships?



34 Comments

Beyonce
02 Aug 2007 06:37

Wow Sgololo... thanx for the recap, I really tried to stay awake but failed.
I saw the first bit, ya that Gary charecter is something else... He is the one who sent me straight to Zzzzzzz land!

About the soulmate... eish I'd rather not comment, there is a lot at stake LoL

Mathaz
02 Aug 2007 06:57

Nice blog

My marriage is a lot of hard work, all along i thought that marriage ws all lovey dovey, all smiles, kisses and hugs but i have since realised that my husband and i are two different beings, we both are stubborn and so we are both learning how to compromise.We do fight but I believe that marrige life is better than single life.  Like Dinny and Kenny we were on counselling and if you are having problems, counsellling helps.

Freud Genius
02 Aug 2007 06:58

What I loved most about Zukav is that he said: you can't look to a soulmate to complete you. Complete yourself. Now I don't know how this is possible but apparently it's the best way to keep a marriage alive and not put too much pressure on your partner.

Five words that describe MY relationship:

Happy

Fulfiling

Very sensual 

Intellectual

Spiritual

Sometimes we struggle with each other's ego. Am I blessed or am I blessed? 

Dimago
02 Aug 2007 08:34

Hai Segololo my friend, you have time ne...clearly! :-)  *Please call me*

Nice blog girl!... 

As for the topic, i really cant comment!

sponono
02 Aug 2007 10:36

maybe for most bloggers it shold be a matter of five words to desrcibe your relationships, because most of  y'all arent married yet....(i'm sure most are dying to get hitched)   but  put a litle twist on it a describe your relationship in five words  then you'l know if its worth wating for the proposal if it will ever come...

Gary Zukav is like a clever five year old boy who always has answers (I'm talkin about his looks   yena he is on point content wise cause I've read some of his books

Tashi
02 Aug 2007 19:25

Most excellent review segololo - thnx!

Segololo
03 Aug 2007 02:23

Thank you guys for your support!

Dimago
03 Aug 2007 02:28

<<maybe for most bloggers it shold be a matter of five words to desrcibe your relationships, because most of y'all arent married yet....(i'm sure most are dying to get hitched) >> 
Hau Spopo!!! I wouldn't say dying, but yeah, i'd like to get hitched.

5 words to describe my relationship are:
- Honest
- Fun
- Stimulating
- Satisfying
- Very Sexual

Beyonce
03 Aug 2007 02:34

Oh Dimags! Very Sexual? I thought people only do those things when they are married!!!.... Hmn I guess I'm just an innocent-old fashioned-Catholic-gal:)

timica
03 Aug 2007 02:57

@ Rythm City <" WOMEN WANT MEN TO OWN WHO THEY (women) ARE " > Pleeezz!! Mornin all 'o y,all! Well I'm single, and abstaining. So I wouldn't say what my relationship is like. Still tryin'na find out 'bout & to love my me, so when I'm ready I can be able to attract a suitable & great beau. Cz what's the point if ya gonna want a man to know and understand ya when you don't know nor understand your own self? See... If you want a gr8 guy, work on being gr8 yourself. Th'ts what I'm doin' 2 the moment y'all.......WORKIN ON IT! @ {Workin on bein' dr Phil lol hi hi hi hi hi!!}

timica
03 Aug 2007 03:06

Alright

Dimago
03 Aug 2007 03:10

LOL @  Bey, yep Very Sexual....one needs to ensure that we are compatible on every level...Somethings shouldn't only be discovered in marriage (just my opinion)

Timica, i do support those who abstain and those who work on themselves first (been there, done that, ask Segololo), its a matter of personal choice....

timica
03 Aug 2007 03:14

Cz what's the point if ya gonna want a man to know and understand ya when you don't know nor understand your own self? VISA-VERSA!!!!!!! See... If you want a gr8 guy, work on being gr8 yourself. VISA-VERSA!!!!!!! Th'ts what I'm doin' 2 the moment y'all.......WORKIN ON IT! @ {Workin on bein' dr Phil lol hi hi hi hi hi!!} AND SO I AINT LETTIN' NO LAZY, CHEATIN', BANKRUPT & LOUSY *$$ man come here tellin' me sh**!

KeleFabulous
03 Aug 2007 03:15

Segololo yours is the only LONG article i actually make a point of reading thru thoroughly to the finish! hi hi hi. thanks for the recap as i said before some of us can only catch oprah when we're at home and not working.

i love gary zukav. but i find he just goes too deep sometimes and i don't think i want to go  as deep as he does. i also tried reading his book once and gave up on the 2nd page. i found it too hard to understand and couldn't really find a way to absorb everything.hi hi hi i don't know. i'm not in a relationship right now but maybe when i do finally decide to give myself wholly and without reservations to someone then i'll go along on the "deep" trips. hi hi hi

5 words to describe to describe MY MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP (with my baby):

Fun
Wholesome
Happy
Deeply fulfilling
Inspiring (he brings out the absolute best in me and makes me want to become the best person i can be)

MamaOmpha
03 Aug 2007 04:21

I've been with PaPaOmpha for almost 8 years now (no we are not married). B4 the birth of our child our relationship was:

Very sexual
Fun
Very romantic
Easy going
Happy

But after Ompha came (not that I regret having him. I luv him to bits) things started going a different direction.  Don't get me wrong, we still love each other but now everything we do has to be planned. The amount of sex has deteriorated. Im not fulfilled as I used to be.  The romance is no longer there ( its like we want to be the best parents that we can be for our son and in the process we have forgotten about ourselves).  But at the end of the day I take comfort in knowing that I still love him and he still loves me and maybe at the moment we don't know exactly how to show each other the love we feel and still make our son happy

Beyonce
03 Aug 2007 04:29

Ah! 8years+Baby+No proposal= He's not that into you!!! hi hi hi just kidding

KeleFabulous
03 Aug 2007 04:35

hawu beyonce! usile wena.

i think men tend to get too comfortable in a relationship after a coupla  yrs. more esp if u've had a child and/or are living together.

mama ompha it's like segololo was saying. remind him of the person u were when u first started going out and if he doesn't appreciate u then then maybe ti's time to call it quits

MamaOmpha
03 Aug 2007 04:46

@beyonce

Usangi laybayile (paid i lobola). He still has to come up with enough "digomo" to finish the "purchase price"

Dimago
03 Aug 2007 04:48

Haibo Bey...hi hi hi...

timica
03 Aug 2007 05:34

Ok bey..

timica
03 Aug 2007 05:38

WELL....While still on my SINGLEton trip I've had weird encounters y,all. I met and kinda befriended this guy, a way too tall & big/fat weird *$$ guy (I wouldn't mistake him for a hunk) but he was goodlooking and charming. I was not planning on being in a relationship with him, and I did not even like the guy... he was not my type. He took me by surprise and for all I knew the man was already breathing sighs of fulfillment on top of me .. lol. I kinda gave in to kinda luvin him just a li'l bit (you know it's kinda easier for women to fall in l.. whatevah). Anyway, his brown willy was just too long 4 mi it reached my womb. I got sick and so hurt every time after... as y'all can imagine. He always took advantage of me everytyme I visited him. He would overpower me, and used his too tall and big fat funny ^$$ strength to reach out and grab me, & grin his way into my thing. I was hangin around because I wanted his company @ the tyme, until I knew I couldn't take it anymore. He had a babymama and several other flingz that he was cheatin' with in the meantyme y,all.. and I quit him! I dropped him like he ws hot! I hate him!!! AArrrGGghh!!!!!!! lol

JabuSA
03 Aug 2007 05:43

Thank you for sharing with us Tee...

JabuSA
03 Aug 2007 05:49

Timica, I don't think u should waste your precious time hating this 'Monster'. He's not woth it. Work on forgeting about 'it' and move on.

spux5
03 Aug 2007 05:50

Timica wa rocka lol-------------lol---------lmao

Mnikazi
03 Aug 2007 05:52

To: MamaOmpha

What a word you used there "lay bye" creative i must say. i just wonder if he knows ukuthi he just had you on lay bye.

timica
03 Aug 2007 06:12

...phew..

timica
03 Aug 2007 06:16

Thanx JabuSA,,, I luuurve ya Spux5!!!!!!!! You rock!

MamaOmpha
03 Aug 2007 06:47

@ tee

Thanx 4 da advise.  mwaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

@mnikazi.  Im a bit slow 2day.  What exactly do you want to know

KeleFabulous
03 Aug 2007 06:58

lol @ timica.

jabusa i don't think she meant she hates him hate him. know what i mean?

timica
03 Aug 2007 07:11

@ mamaOmpha "digomo" to finish the "purchase price"........ .. sorry yall but this whole "purchase price" word to mi sounds like them "partiez involved" are on sale just like .......which is weird 2 mi righ' now. Wish there was a substitute for the word lol.

timica
03 Aug 2007 07:15

@ KeleFab....Wh'at thah ... r u talkin 'bout?? lol

Dimago
03 Aug 2007 08:56

Yho timica, after that encounter, i'd also take time off me *sigh*

Segololo
03 Aug 2007 15:43

Ok ladies... You have taken this blog on another tangent all together... I'm McDonalds at this point "I'm loving it!"

@ timica: I think I know that fat slob - maybe not but sounds too familiar to a guy I worked with, never dated him or anything; He would always hug gals (I was a victim of this hug noonsense) and he would always rub his big weapon - almost grind u in the hug. Hated it!

@ MamaOmpha: Gal, you need some Iyanla and Dr Gary Chapman books. Let's just say I went thru a rough first year of marriage and after seeing a psychiatrist - just so I could get appreciation - who suggested those books, my marriage has a whole new meaning to appreciation and loving... It is everything that King K said it is and the word he needed was "extremely sexual" but I wasn't gonna say it! My point is find out what "love language" your man speaks and he will find a whole new way to show his appreciation and the sex libido goes back to the way it was after the baby. Trust me. as Bey said "I am Oprah!"  

Beyonce
04 Aug 2007 01:26

Sgololo said:>>>Trust me. as Bey said "I am Oprah!" <<< 
 
Yes you are the klein Oprah darling, and I can't wait for the next one of your intelligent writtings/talks.


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