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Advice...Who The Hell Asked You???!!!

Written by KeleFabulous from the blog Scorpio on 02 Jul 2008
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Being a woman is great! Having galfriends is extra fabulous because we get to do lots and lots of things together...we share each (and keep) each other's secrets, we're stick together through the good and the bad, we have FUN together. Nothing beats having a non-blood sister!

Lately though, I find myself being friends more with guys than I do with men. Women are complicated. We all know sometimes we have tooo fragile egos and not to mention the jealousy trips. I can deal with all of that ish though, it comes with the package. Small price to pay. But what really gets to me is the way we like giving advice, even when it's not asked for. I hate this. Everytime I need to talk and call up one of my galfriends and explain the situation she/they will go on and on about what I should do or say and what THEY would do if they were in the same predicament. I always feel like screaming...YOU! Who the hell said this was about you!!! And funny thing is at that time all you need is just someone who'll listen to your drama, not their own ish, whether past or present...or how/why they handled it. Women just DON'T get that!!!

I learnt about 3/4 years back not to give advice where it's not asked for. In fact, I do NOT give advice at all,especially when it comes to relationships; unless if I've been specifically asked. Even when asked I still feel uneasy giving it because we all like saying "well, if it was me I would..." It is not about me! It's about the other person. And we all react differently to the same or similar situations. Everyone's entitled to their own emotional state of being (whatever it may be) and no one can tell you what you should be thinking/saying/doing because this is about YOU and no one else. This piece of advice I got from my therapist years ago, when I asked if it was normal for me to find myself in a place whereby the abuse I went through as a child left me so lifeless and had basically taken hold of my life. And she said it was normal to feel what I feel because those were MY feelings and I owned them. Back to advice...

We all know just how much crap and ill treatment we take from men; yet we continue to stay in such Toxic relationships even when we know it's not good for us. Then comes the time when you do get yourself out of that situation and you think just cause you got out of it(after Lawd knows how many breakups and makeups) you feel you've gotten a degree in giving advice. He bathong! I've been going through some ish with this guy I'm seeing and I told my other friend about it. She went on and on about what relationships should be based on and what both parties need to put into it blah blah blah (she's getting married soon and I felt she was making too much of an example from what the two of them have)...damn I was so pissed off. After anbout 3 days of endless (and useless) conversations she finally said the one thing (which is acceptable as it's not advice but an observation) I already knew but needed someone else to see it too so I could be sure I wasn't just being too overly sensitive. And what was that one sentence? "...from what you've said, dude's not even trying" Gaad why are we like that???

You want a piece of advice? DON'T give advice. The only thing I will say to my galfriends when it comes to men and their relationships, I'll just tell them if I think the guy deserves them or not...or if they deserve better. Why dwell on the ins and outs of their relationship when you are just an outsider??? When we all know nawe if you ever find yourself in that situation your reaction to it will be completely different. Advice is so not wanted. Relationship advice is so useless and unnecessary because the woman will end up doing what SHE wants and this might casue conflict with your friendship because it'll then seem like one thinks they're better than the other cause the other is so "stupid" cos you've told them over and over to get herself out of that relationship. *Sigh* 

Am I right or am I right mara?



117 Comments

KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 04:52

what unwanted advice have you gotten lately?

Cody
02 Jul 2008 05:01

Jo Kele!!!!! huu wee!

Toodecent
02 Jul 2008 05:07

With the kind of sittuation am in am sick and tired of hearing these words as advice because they not helping much " Everything will be OK"

carino
02 Jul 2008 05:17

I also find myself these days becoming friends with more guys than girls...

With girls it's always this kind of conversation:

Imagine you are having a headache and you tell her:
"galfriend, i have such a headache"  she goes like "yho, me too, mine's right between my eyes"

Or

"Yazi, uSbusiso is becoming sung a bore. He didnt wan have sex last night."
And the galfriend goes like "Yho, akafiki kuMandla, we havent done it in days

I hate friends like that.... Just keep quite... shut up.... if you dont know what to say to me.

carino
02 Jul 2008 05:20

With the kind of sittuation am in am sick and tired of hearing these words as advice because they not helping much " Everything will be OK"

I know waht you mean....  and the question is: "How do you know???"

carino
02 Jul 2008 05:20

With the kind of sittuation am in am sick and tired of hearing these words as advice because they not helping much " Everything will be OK"

I know waht you mean....  and the question is: "How do you know???"

carino
02 Jul 2008 05:21

...becoming sung a bore....

meant such a bore...

felfel
02 Jul 2008 05:22

Mara Kele isn't that what we even do here on TVSA, we give advice to other people on their relationships, lives, money, familf etc....and some advice comes from people who act like their *bleep!* don't stink or it smells of roses. So ke, if you don't want advice just dont ask for it or if u wanna offload just tell someone you know won't blabber on, surely by now u know wat ur friends are like. I dont tell my friends everything and i choose which one i tell depending on what I want to hear at that time, nam I have days when I only say " I hear you girl, do wats best for you" instead of blabbering on and on and on and on and on and on.......get my drift???????????

monchooza
02 Jul 2008 05:24

The most unwelcomed and unwanted advise I  have been getting from people is "you must dye your hair black again" and I always tell them to fix their own hair and forget about mine cause i am very much happy with my hair, which is why i made the colour it is....mxiiim

Cnglemother
02 Jul 2008 05:29

OMG Kfab i am the galfrend you are talking about! showee. I even tell you to pack yo things & hit the door.

Why tell me if you still have issues with my response? its not easy to just listen and not advise sisi. Its female nature to analyse, scrutinise situations even unnecessarily. 

I have a friend who even went and told the BF what i advised her and now the BF does not talk to me but i was right coz kusenjalo namanje but she's being stubborn coz its the child's father and she cannot dump him WTF.

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 05:35


when it comes to women & advice-women are hypocrites, they'll give you a long lecture abt good & bad relationships, who to leave & who to stay with...only to find she's even in a worse situation while pretending she's happy. 




madomado
02 Jul 2008 05:36

I always tell them to fix their own hair and forget about mine cause i am very much happy with my hair, which is why i made the colour it is....mxiiim
Way to go, Monchooza

Everyone who always asks me why i dont grow my hair..... Excuse me, I love my chiskop, and stop being so jealous & wishing you had a beauifully shaped head... my chiskop ya ntshwanela & thats damn why I cut my hair in the first place. I know I look good. So now, go ahead & fry your hair if you want to.... nxxxxx

madomado
02 Jul 2008 05:37

CORRECTION

....wishing you had a beauifully shaped head...like me..

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 05:40

CNG Why tell me if you still have issues with my response? its not easy to just listen and not advise sisi. Its female nature to analyse, scrutinise situations even unnecessarily

true-

J-Girl
02 Jul 2008 05:41

i dont think its bad at all to give advice cz i think its up to the person with the problem to take it or not,

cnglemommy i'm that friend too, i sometimes sit and think (like long after the conversation has ended) how I would handle that situation, it gets so bad i even feel like calling up that person and finding out what they did in the end...

hau TDC, everything WILL be okay nyhani yhazi...lol!! jokes!!

molibelis
02 Jul 2008 05:42

Kele u right,some times ur friend will also ask u,when are u getting married,when are u going to buy a car cause u are working,

Cnglemother
02 Jul 2008 05:42

LOL @Posh, no guys it’s so difficult to just keep quite & go mh-mh all the way it just don’t work. My only bad advise I give out is “my leave him” statement that I forever dish out to gfriends and I have been called a quitter trying to turn everyone into that. I am forever saying “ ungamlahli nje? ulinde ingculazi”?

mstick
02 Jul 2008 05:42

@Monchooza.........advise i have been getting from people is "you must dye your black again' and I always tell them to fix their own hair.........

he he he he he .........last week friday i said the sym thing abt ur hair to dye it blk n u neva said 2 me to fix my own hair liarrrrrrrrr.............mara since i see u dont lyk de advice i'll sure be quite abt ur hair nxt tym...........shooooo azange i'm so offended.

mstick
02 Jul 2008 05:44

i meant hair black again

belz
02 Jul 2008 05:45

Im so guity, was actually screaming at a friend of mine the other day ngithi, she mustn't ask for advice and keep on doing the opposite of what i advice you to do, she calls me every two weeks crying ethi indoda yakhe iyamhlupha. really if someone says what do you think i should do, mele ngithini. 

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 05:51

I am forever saying “ ungamlahli nje? ulinde ingculazi”

HAHAAAAAAA hhayi this is even worse just keep quiet CNGLmother-vele uthule nje...tl tl tl tl tl

phyzo
02 Jul 2008 05:54

But lets just face it, girls... Thats what friends are there for..... to help you carry the load.

Toxic
02 Jul 2008 05:56

it's a rare occassion when a friend offloads their problems and expect you to just listen. Hayi i've never seen it happen. The only way around it is to say, 'choma i just want u to listen-don't give advice, don't analyse, just listen." 

Mara if u're going on and on abt this and that and your uncertainties, WTF do u expect? A hmmmm? hayi noh!

monchooza
02 Jul 2008 05:58

<<<<<<<<<<This piece of advice I got from my therapist years ago>>>>

are you sure that you are Black kele???????

carino
02 Jul 2008 05:59

"ungamlahli nje? ulinde ingculazi” 

Cnglema....you bad.....

LM
02 Jul 2008 06:04

Felfel: and some advice comes from people who act like their *bleep!* don't stink or it smells of roses: LMAO 

Eish Kele, I don't exactly have a problem with getting advise from a female friend bcause at the end of the day I will take what I need from it and leave the rest. What I have a problem with is a friend who hijacks the whole thing and makes it hers...just like Carino explained above...

There's this one friend of mine, geeez, I get so irritated with her because whenever I wanna share I'll be lucky to finish my first sentence...she will go on and on about how her hubby handles things or behaves, how lucky she is that she doesn't experience 1,2,3...how well she handled the baby mama nengneng...This is a recurring thing; my solution was to avoid certain topics with her.

I have more male friends than female ones and I prefer it that way...I can't handle female drama. Problem with male ones is that most of them are trying to get into my panties but I know how to handle them and tell them where to get off..they say I am a typical stubborn Pedi woman and I just tell them to get lost...

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 06:08

   but I hav 2 male friends, every man problem I share with them, the advice is always the same, leave him, he's not serious abt you. sometimes I wonder if the opinion is objective

felfel
02 Jul 2008 06:11

This is a recurring thing; my solution was to avoid certain topics with her. 

Nami LM i just choose which topics to share qha. I got a dear friend who's so negative about my men, if I say so and so din't pitch, she'll go "Oh feeding you lies as usual" and im sitting there thinking mara this woman hasn't even heard the reason why and guess what her relationships ain't so rosy either. But she's really caring and generous when it comes to other things and i share those just not the men ones, i got my other peoples for that, the kind i can even call at 3am.

Cnglemother
02 Jul 2008 06:14

how well she handled the baby mama nengneng...This is a recurring thing; my solution was to avoid certain topics with her. 

LM 
Those type of friends are best handled by letting them rave&rant and make peace with the fact that they will never listen to your own problems but hijack the whole situation to be theirs. Those are not a real bummer coz uyazi u just sit back and listen to all what Sipho did. I dont even stress yilabo. 

I have beef with the one's with a Sipho problem for over 4 years and not doing fokkol about it and thina we are supposed to give a shoulder to cry on every weekend. Haikhona

KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 06:15

@felfel...it seems you didn't read my article properly. i said one mustn't give advice unless asked for it.

I have a friend who even went and told the BF what i advised her and now the BF does not talk to me but i was right coz kusenjalo namanje but she's being stubborn coz its the child's father and she cannot dump him WTF.
and now you're left looking like the baddie...because they will do what they feel is right for them, no matter who says what. i'd rather let them be

Everyone who always asks me why i dont grow my hair..... Excuse me, I love my chiskop, and stop being so jealous & wishing you had a beauifully shaped head... my chiskop ya ntshwanela & thats damn why I cut my hair in the first place. I know I look good. So now, go ahead & fry your hair if you want to.... nxxxxx
LMBAO!!!

Toxic that's just it. all my friends KNOW that unless i ask for advice, i DON'T want it!!!

Monchoo i'm a white woman stuck in a black person's body

carino
02 Jul 2008 06:18

Everyone who always asks me why i dont grow my hair..... 

On that note, Monchy.... 
"People, I dont want contact lenses!!!! I love my spectacles...thank you very much... And i have reasons for wearing them instead of contacts...so now, LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!

felfel
02 Jul 2008 06:18

but I hav 2 male friends, every man problem I share with them, the advice is always the same, leave him, he's not serious abt you. sometimes I wonder if the opinion is objective 

hahhaha....Poshspice my male friend has his favorites, he always says so and so loves you and u'll never find someone like him and then he says about the others, those stinking assholes just wanna chow ur cake and i just laugh, we up to date about each other's lovelife  , I call his gal iHlanya (for obvious reasons) and he calls this my guy Bazuuka (obvious reasons)....LOL

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 06:21

Poshspice..IMAGINE THIS.pouring your heart out to that bestfriend and yu cry together..she decides that he cant hurt yu this way and that way she will go fix him up for yu she goes talk to him and things behind closed doors end up under the sheets between them..yu call she doesnt pick yo calls up ..when she daz atlast.. she says liv him and she wants yu to stop calling her.

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 06:24

Monchoo i'm a white woman stuck in a black person's body

please elaborate KF, what does this mean...are white women different from black women? if so how?

Kim Possible
02 Jul 2008 06:25

@Zapiro - you watch too many soapies ekse....

Cnglemother
02 Jul 2008 06:26

Felfel ntanga are u sure i am not the frend u r talking about LOL. I have serious deep negativity when giving men/playa related advice, but bring up other topics i will lighten up. I dont have real male friends coz I end falling for them.

felfel
02 Jul 2008 06:26

I hear you Kele perhaps then people shouldn't tell their stories to people who have opinions (like your friend), find someone who really doesn't care, and will just nod as you go along....

And i haven't come across many people who before they share their issues say "Please advise me on this....." Its just normal in a friendship that when someone shares something that has gaps, the friend will try her best to help fill those gaps.......or maybe I have different friends.........

carino
02 Jul 2008 06:30

mstick
02 Jul 2008 06:35

Kim  @Zapiro - you watch too many soapies........ka ka ka ka ka..........tl tl tl tlt tl tl...LMAO 

Cnglemother
02 Jul 2008 06:40

and will just nod as you go along.... how the hell do you that as a woman? maybe i still need to mature a bit.

KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 06:42

i hear all of you. i still say there comes a time in a woman's life when she should realise she needs to give her "advice" to herself; unless asked. the problem i have with advice is that we like to tell people what's best for them but when we ourselves find ourselves in similar situations we'll do the exact opposite of what we've advised...

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 06:43

ekse Kim..trust me when I tell yu that this happens to my sister..and wen she found out I had to help nurse her from the traumatic experience..as for that B...T bestfrend of hers vanished with the dude they went eastern cape route..I wished my macherndise was big as istreet lamp bengifuna ukumgqabhuza...Damn.

belz
02 Jul 2008 06:49

LOL Monchooza, hahahahaha. 

but when we ourselves find ourselves in similar situations we'll do the exact opposite of what we've advised...> It doesn't matter Kels, phela at the time its not you who needs advice, its the friend, its not important what you do, kuphela nje just give yur friend the right advice. when its your trun, let the friend say what they want to say.

KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 06:53

the thing about advice...it can come across as instruction. which is the last thing you need when you're in a predicament. you tell your story and someone goes "leave him" "dump him" "kick his ass to the curb" blah blah blah. instructions! and the thing is when a friend comes to you with their ish they already know waht they should do and are just procastinating. so instead of telling htem what to do, it would be much better to just put across your own view (not instruction) on the matter...things like "he was wrong" and "that is so unlike him, i wonder what got into him" and "he can be such a bastard" and "you deserve so much better" etc etc etc. this way you're not telling the person what to do, but rather getting them to step back from their own predicament and see things in a different way and look at the whole picture ie the relationship as awhole and not just the one problem.

carino
02 Jul 2008 06:54

Zapiro, I know you are right. I did that once....

okay, not exactyl... well, a "friend" had been trying to have something with a certain man... they kissed once when they were not so sober..and the guy kinda just brushed it off like it never happened,, when my "friend" actually took it serious... u know how girls are like.....

So she asked me to talk to him....... , I also secrectly had the hots for the guy so I met up with him and believe me, we NEVER talked about my "friend"...not even mention her name...I'm serious.... it was fun, though...coz we'd steal each other like that...



KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 06:56

carino....! please pm me your pic so i know which friends not to trust with guys! tjo! LOL!!!

Cnglemother
02 Jul 2008 06:59

unfortunately Kfab the modesty you are suggesting is the last thing on one's mind when tackling such issues. You just wanna bash & bang all the way. 

going to lunch peeps

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 07:04

@ Zapiro..I feel you, that's why some people prefer to make their parents, siblings or older people their confidante when it comes to personal issues.

mstick
02 Jul 2008 07:06

@Carino............hah! u remind o my ada frnd she did sumthing similar, 2 her best frnd bt she ws far worse dan u she went out wth her best frnd's B-frnd for weeks and de bst-frnd found out mara my evil frnd carried on as if de is no wrong tell me hw do i trust her around my man i jst dont .......

felfel
02 Jul 2008 07:06

I understand what you mean Kele and really there are people like that, even some parents are like that with certain issues and its always best not follow those "instructions" cos at the time u haven't analysed the situation (which is probably what u wanted to do wit ur friend when u told her) and when you react with an instruction you could wake up regretting that decision and guess what when u tell her you regret she'll say 'You did well girl, good riddance' instead of  "Okay here's how you can resolve the situation, if u want him back etc..." 

Renegade
02 Jul 2008 07:12

Yeah yeah, I hear you girl, great article. My problem is advice that comes across as judgemental, and more often than not, that is the case. Mina I'm usually in some fix or another, and I've decided that I'll only really talk about these things to my best friend, and she knows when I need her to shut up. 
It's like a situation where you meet a guy you really like, and he invites you to his place, and you really wanna go, if you ask advice from a girlfriend, she'll say: "no, don't go yet, it's too soon", or something like that. But you know you want to go, and if you do go, you'll be judged on that...hai suka, mina I just do what I want, unless I'm really stuck.

Renegade
02 Jul 2008 07:12

Yeah yeah, I hear you girl, great article. My problem is advice that comes across as judgemental, and more often than not, that is the case. Mina I'm usually in some fix or another, and I've decided that I'll only really talk about these things to my best friend, and she knows when I need her to shut up. 
It's like a situation where you meet a guy you really like, and he invites you to his place, and you really wanna go, if you ask advice from a girlfriend, she'll say: "no, don't go yet, it's too soon", or something like that. But you know you want to go, and if you do go, you'll be judged on that...hai suka, mina I just do what I want, unless I'm really stuck.

Earth
02 Jul 2008 07:13

I am the friend that is always gives advice....not cos I wanna,but cos people always come to me with their man issues,I don't know why they think my man and I have the perfect relationship,but they are always askin me ka mathata a bona,so ya I'm always dishing out the advice.The thing with me is,even if I have man issues,I don't share with them cos ga ke batle advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 07:14

ohh yeah...I introduced a friend to potential BF..was a bit confused..cause i had two. her advice was to go with the guy who was 80% though I felt more connected to the guy who is 20%. bt when she finally met both, a week later I get a call that I should actually persue 20% cause she thinks 80% liked her more and the truth is she liked him too. later sent a message that she loves both of us, me & 80%.

well when 80% was confronted he denied everything and promised to cut contact with her. bt i kinda cut contact with both of them and gave them my 'blessing'. 

Preshiii
02 Jul 2008 07:15

<<<<<<<<<<This piece of advice I got from my therapist years ago>>>>

are you sure that you are Black kele??????? 

Hayibo Monchooza! What's that got to do with the price of the eggs? I went for therapy and my cuz also told me that "black people" dont do therapy, we do church!? I go to church, but I have a "I need to talk, and I need an objective opinion when I ask for it" personality...I just dont see how I can do that in church.










belz
02 Jul 2008 07:16

Jah neh, i remember saying to this other chick" Kannete lebadimo bahao, im sure bawuhladile because of motho wa hao, ha omohlale ke eng???? i think i was wrong but at the time it seemed right. it also depends on how this person asks for the advice. Kele: i have learnt from your blog to really listen and say things like " its not like him etc, just wondering if i'll be able to do that when the "time" comes.

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 07:18

RULES RULES RULES to test his love for ya
Ok on a serious note..If you are having problems with yo man..
1.ask for a time period..but .I repeat but make sure he wants that as well...2 days dont call each other..and we all know how hard it is to sleep at nite..dont yu go and think maybe his having an affair coz yu are on a mission here ,to fix things 
2.Think of all the wonderful things yu have together.likes and dislikes
3.make sure yu are riting every thot down with a smile and shed a tear now and again.
4.Third day ask to meet and give yo notes.
He will defnately call that day and imagine the S..X he will want ..but girl yu must not give in say no...and go home ..and that nite just budge in at his house with rn to his arms and say please make L..E to rite now Im going crazy without yu.

mstick
02 Jul 2008 07:18

@poshspice here goes de 8/20 rule............

KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 07:25

the thing is Belz when a person comes to you with problems they're only focused on one issue and not the whole picture (the relationship) and you can't judge/advice based only on one thing. and that person comes to you so you can help them shift focus onto what's more important. so rather than giving instructiction and/or telling them if it were you (cos it ain't about u!)...

plus, the problem with giving "advice"...alot of your gals will think you're just jealous cos nawe you failed to look at the bigger picture and jumped for the gun

poshspice
02 Jul 2008 07:26

The thing with me is,even if I have man issues,I don't share with them cos ga ke batle advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohh yess, there are these friends,you always share your problems with them, but they never share with you all you'l ever hear from them when you ask how they are or their marriage, it's always 'EISH MY FRIEND IT'S HARD' that's all. or they'll ask indirect questions, when you are alone you think 'why would so & so, ask such a question'.

 I have a friend like this, I love her to bits though cause she is not judgemental, a very good listener and her advice is always given in such a manner that she gives you something to think about and that it's your decision.....

when you go to her with the same man problem over and over  again, she'll go 'my friends be with him until you've had enough yourself' dump him when it suits you

Toxic
02 Jul 2008 07:29

the problem i have with advice is that we like to tell people what's best for them but when we ourselves find ourselves in similar situations we'll do the exact opposite of what we've advised...

@Kele, do as i say not as i do.

Like Mbeki on the Zim issue, I'ma say matters between two people are best resolved by the people involved. Any 3rd party may end up being called "IDIOT".

*mara somewhere at the back of our minds, we all don't wanna be told the truth we're avoiding acknowledging. So if i tell you about my cheating partner more times than you can count, i secretly want you to say it's not that bad/at least he's not beating u up cause i know it's bad and don't want to be acknowledge that i'm a weakling.

Carino and Zapiro.


I believe your tales cause i read somewhere that when a man goes to your friend for advice about yourself, he ends up falling for your friend.

how the hell do you that as a woman? maybe i still need to mature a bit. 

cngle, wena continue doing what you're doing cause there's nothing worse than a friend saying i saw this coming or i knew he was a bastard when she kept mum about it throughout all my crying sessions.

felfel
02 Jul 2008 07:30

hahahaha.......Zapiro you are too much yhuuuu...................LOL, wats up with the rules?????

carino
02 Jul 2008 07:35

I have a friend like this, I love her to bits though cause she is not judgemental, a very good listener and her advice is always given in such a manner that she gives you something to think about and that it's your decision.....

Thanks, poshspice, I know you talking about me, there..

Honeypot
02 Jul 2008 07:39

I had a discussion like this with my gals on Sunday, and one was asking if she she should stay with her abusive baby daddy and I realised that I don't know anything about being a parent and having an abusive partner , I just abstained from giving advice because I had nothing to say for the first time I decided to keep quite cause there was nothing constructive to say. I have had so many friends with abusive bfriends and they have all asked me for advice and I had given them  the same ol cliche "kick his sorry a$$ to the curb" and none of them have ever listened, so this time I reserved my comments. It's hard to be objective when it comes to our gals though!!!!!

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 07:40

He wena felfel ungahleki ibuhlungu lento yenzeka apha phandle.kuyalalwana . kuyavulwa kuyavalwa.as for imishado,abanye bayangena abanye bayaphuma...
Yu c felfel my rules are crucial and shud b followed and neva ask for advice uze uyi1 la emhlabeni.

Renegade
02 Jul 2008 07:42

Hehe Zapiro, isn't what Janet Jackson told the two ladies to do in "Why did I get married"...

Anyway, we all just ask for advice to affirm the crazy things we wanna do, at the end of the day, regardless of what anyone says, we grown, and we gonna do what we want. Which is why a woman will only leave an abusive man when she's ready, not while everybody's "advising" her to do so.

carino
02 Jul 2008 07:45

yes, rene...

Konje, where is andi01?? i miss her when we discuss things like ths..

Toxic
02 Jul 2008 07:54

trappe van vergelykkings....what's this in English mense *sorry Kele*?

Cody
02 Jul 2008 07:56

Konje, where is andi01?? i miss her when we discuss things like ths.. i was about to say the same thing Carino

Does anybody know where Mathata is
?

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 08:02

Yu know Carino thats a gud question..where is she..And guys where is that Supa blogger? lo uhlala estoned judging from i correspondens .Supa I know who yu are. And I also know yu have a crush on TJ.And my bra she in cape town happy and rich keeping a low profile SUCCESSFULLY..
Mabloggers yu will be shocked to know who Supa is. 

Im Bouncing have banking to do.

Renegade
02 Jul 2008 08:02

@TOXIC: trappe van vergelykkings - Degrees of comparison

carino
02 Jul 2008 08:18

Toxic, isnt that a book, we read in high school??

felfel
02 Jul 2008 08:27

Mathata left us remember, she said "bye bye South Africa"........caba some plp were ridiculling her mathatas (problems)....so ke she said no mo.................lol 

Pooky
02 Jul 2008 08:29


Does anybody know where Mathata is?

From Mathatha...how can i c d advert when im here. no more tvsa,people will hide their problems until they kill themself.iyooo im finished with South african,bye

...and we havent heard from her since

Cody i hope this answers your Q

KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 08:48

Pooky....LOL

haai that woman was mathata ka nnete. i don't think i read even half her replies but what i read was enuff mathata nge mpela!

belz
02 Jul 2008 08:52

yah cody, i was thinking about her (mathatha) gester, nibabi mabloggers, umntu ade acinge uba packing and leaving is the best thing, yhu ndiyanoyika!!!!

Toxic
02 Jul 2008 08:55

Rene, thanks!

I'm referring to the big, bigger, biggest/ good, better, best thing Carino. didn't know what that's called in English.

BEEbabes
02 Jul 2008 09:03

how can i c d advert when im here. no more tvsa,people will hide their problems until they kill themself.iyooo im finished with South african,bye 

people you are so insensitive, oh GAAD ha ha ha, he he he haai bo,  Haai ke mathata!!!  Eish I lost track of what  I was about to say, wo iyaa 

the advice thing...my sister, she is beautiful, sexy, I mean she has glamour akanawo even ama-silver stripes yet she has 2 boys ne, she went to home affairs to record her marriage to that devil, with swollen face and body, the pictures are attests to that, the devil just resigned from his job soon after that so that she can take care of him, he went galavanting for 4 months to finish all the monies he was paid ne, and it took me beating that python with insimbi enhloko, I couldn't take the abuse to my sis anymore, my brothers ended up giving up on her, their not even on speaking terms with her becasue she keeps on going back, jo it hurts, to the person who witnesses the abuse not the abused one, i guess ibhola lakhe limnandi, what else?? I hate that smooth talker.
 I don't give advice to women, truth is when you are fed up, you'll be able to make that decision and leave, otherwise why waste your energy.  Being a true friend is if she cries help her shed those tears for her own stupidity's sake.  I DON'T TAKE *bleep!* FROM MEN, AND I AM TEACHING MY GALS THAT, SHAME TO THEIR FATHER, he grew up between 2 girl sibliings and he chose me as a life partner, shame ngiyamzwela, EISH out there are so crude, irresponsible bastards, except for WILL SMITH, ICE CUBE, LL COOL JAY and MY MAN of course and all of you REAL MEN

Cody
02 Jul 2008 09:07

@ Pooky.....Hai Mathata!!! im finished with South african,bye.... LMAO!! I can just visualize her face saying, "bye South African, bye"  LOL, i  miss her thou! She added a little bit of spice here

Belz: you can say that again! 

Shame on you mabloggers!!!!

KeleFabulous
02 Jul 2008 09:12

is mathata back?

myname
02 Jul 2008 09:13

Lol 2 all of u. Nice 1 K. Oh yes dear Im one of those friends but Im not critical but I do give some advice then I will leave. I dont say "dump him" but I do say Choma do what your mind/heart tells u to do. I will never conclude for my freind................................. Guys Its been a long day so kawusani. Bye.

Toxic
02 Jul 2008 09:17

bye myname!!

Cody
02 Jul 2008 09:23

Kele.... i suspect so, only time will tell.

felfel
02 Jul 2008 09:23

bye bye bye bye everybuddy.........................

Cody
02 Jul 2008 09:30

Im finished with blogging... bye bloggers bye!!!

Brown Shuga
02 Jul 2008 09:32

*in my best soprano*

¶♫Yilele yelele yelele Yho, se a fihlile mathata! MATHATA! 
Yilele yelel yelele Yho, se le qabel' egqitha pha
!¶♫

Cnglemother
02 Jul 2008 09:43

I had missed her so much and i am so glad she's back.

yilele-yelele, am joining u BS on celebrations. You were missed thatas fo sho!

Weiss
02 Jul 2008 09:45

No no no! You cannot talk like that about my friend...Does anybody know where Mathata is? I actually need to talk to her. She gave me the impression that she's in trouble the last time I heard from her.

I really miss her a lot.. Mathata - wherever you are sweetie... Just call me.

carino
02 Jul 2008 09:48

♫ Gata le nna, joe.. gata le nna. ♫

♫ Gata le nna, joe.. gata le nna. ♫

♫ Gata le nna, joe.. gata le nna. ♫

Pooky
02 Jul 2008 09:49

i finish with tvsa...i'm leave bye bye....no more i'm gone...............tl tl tl tl tl 

Toxic
02 Jul 2008 09:52

Mathata is not back guys mara i'm sure she's be pleased to know that you guys suffer from hallucinations. Seems she aint the only one gone cuckoo afterall :)

Pooky
02 Jul 2008 09:52

i finish with tvsa...i'm leave bye bye....no more i'm gone...............tl tl tl tl tl 

i miss mathatha

Toxic
02 Jul 2008 09:52

LMAO Pooky!

carino
02 Jul 2008 09:52

♫ Gata le nna, joe.. gata le nna. ♫

andi01
02 Jul 2008 09:57

I think Mathata will re-register with another usrname, but I think thats useless considering that anyone can notice her responses, they are sooo CANADA-ISH, B  i guess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

andi01
02 Jul 2008 09:58

Gata le nna, joe, what does this mean

andi01
02 Jul 2008 10:01

On advise i have this best friend, who just says, when i tell her things, like anything, she'll be like well choma its ur choice do what makes u happy or change the subject to her and her man. 

But when she comes to me for advice, i dont tell her what to do, i let her let it all out, and after that we analyse each and every happening bit by bit, and i ask her what she thinks and tell her what I think and let her decide. But she MUST tell me her decision (for curiosity of course)

andi01
02 Jul 2008 10:03

I am forever saying “ ungamlahli nje? ulinde ingculazi”?, LOL, i am adding this one to my collection, ha ha  ha

GQ
02 Jul 2008 10:10

My thots: Don't get too intangled in peoples business coz zizosala nawe...

Nice one Kele

belz
02 Jul 2008 10:10

LOL andi01, she wouldn't come back with another name, unless she hires someone to respond for her South African - is. I miss her shame, she used to crack me up a lot!

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 12:49

Sdakamiswa
02 Jul 2008 12:53

¶?Yilele yelele yelele Yho, se a fihlile mathata! MATHATA! Yilele yelel yelele Yho, se le qabel' egqitha pha!¶? Thats the 2nd single called 'MATHATA' JR's Full Album 'THE MAIN EVENT' is out, produced by super producer 37MPH of the RECKSHOPPE, whose current project is with the 11 yr old violin prodigy, INCHA The MOTSWAKO crew will be at the bassline this friday featuring JR, MORAFE MO MOLEMI...... see all the bloggers in JOZI there..... theres a remake of the monster HIT 1st single 'GATA LE NNA' *in towdee's voice* ? Gata le nna, joe ? ? Tswak' it up my baby, .. saka le nna. ? ? If you wanna get down.. saka le nna. ? BASSLINE HERE WE COME....

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 12:55

guys who is Mathata?fill me in.plizzzzzzzz.

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 13:03

Oh and Hallow And01.

Brown Shuga
02 Jul 2008 13:33

I am guilty of what you are complaining about Kele...i.e. talking about my situation when a friend talks about what they're going through. I have noticed it though and am trying just to "give advice" without talking about my problems. At least till the 2nd or 3rd sms. heheh

Unlike you, nna I actually want to hear what they have to say on my issues.

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 13:53

Ok Brown suga. I didnt want to throw another opinion. But have yu noticed that when yu pour yo heart out to its depth people always baba skars and baku'avoide
why? bcoz une issues.bastards.so keep it to yo self and walk tol knowing yu wil b fine one day.wel aslong as yu meditate inbetween.opening the cage for thee birdie and it flies away and neva flies back?it was not yos.mum is the word oh well sumtimes unless yo life is at risk...

zapiro
02 Jul 2008 14:18

im out.g-nite.

Brown Shuga
02 Jul 2008 14:34

*thinking to myself* Mmmhh...I think I get the "mathata" comment now. 

Gudnite sweety!

Firstdvd
02 Jul 2008 15:04

108 replies...Shoooooh...It was happening here vannag!!!

cnhlanhla
02 Jul 2008 20:59

once one kele.........am feeling guilty though, coz i also kinda like give advices after listening..i never decide for them though & i always make it clear that i am not.

cnhlanhla
02 Jul 2008 21:01

oops meant nice one kele

KeleFabulous
03 Jul 2008 01:38

Sdaka i want commission for that bit of advertising. and your Sotho is te-rri-ble!

andi01
03 Jul 2008 01:55

Basotho bakae mo tvsa, bcoz kebatla hotsiba what does gata lenna mean, he bathong!!!

Molilo
03 Jul 2008 01:58

@Andi Step with me

andi01
03 Jul 2008 02:04

kealeboga Molilo

Cande
03 Jul 2008 02:36

Carino , who sings that song?
Andi, am very proud of you Sana..you even writing in Tswana this days...
I have a problem with friends who always want to run my life for me or they expect my man to do for me the same things that their men do..and i have a lot of those..!maybe i am always like that when they come to me for advices.

Tshd21
03 Jul 2008 10:54

Interesting article and replies...

I think...
If you don't want people to give advice, say it upfront gore wena yu just want them to listen.....
Otherwise ba tla shwashwatha shame...it's human/female nature...


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