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Written by carino from the blog 3 Seconds on 09 Sep 2008
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Thank you everyone, for your responses.

To be honest… I was overwhelmed with frustration over the way so many people reacted to this cartoon and weighed down at how sensitive people can be when it comes to certain individuals. That is the reason I did this article yesterday but couldn’t write much and just waited for bloggers’ reactions and opinions.

Now I suppose its old news… But personally I think this sketch is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS! Yet controversial.
I have to admit, after having a good hard laugh, I also thought, for a little while there, that maybe Zapiro has gone a bit too far but then I thought he’s been doing this long enough to know how far to go… 


I’m not a Zuma fan and I doubt I’ll ever be…but missing the humour in this drawing is not only ignorant, but its arrogant too..

Jonathan Shapiro is a great cartoonist and one of South Africa’s very few high-quality journalists. He’s been cartooning issues in South Africa and around the world for a very long time and he knows exactly which buttons to press...that my only words to him right now are... "well done! good job! they needed to see exactly how society sees them.. and no better way to do it than this... Look at them, running up and down...hi hi hi hi hi...now lets work on next week's graphic...hi hi hi hi.... "

He always used to draw Manto’s face as a garlic bulb and everyone found it funny, right?? Now when its Zuma raping Lady Justice it’s referred to as “racist” 

Black people should get over themselves… Just because you were hurt by one Verwoerd twenty years ago, it doesn’t mean every white man is out to kill you.

It just goes to show how LSM 1 our country’s politics actually are compared to the rest of the world… Barak Obama’s face was put on Paris Hilton’s body not so long ago… Was that racist?

The only way to describe the ANC’s reaction is that it is defense mechanism they know how true the cartoon is, and fully understand that it is a true reflection of the present state of affairs but I suppose Nnete e a baba.
We are going on and on about how it was “distasteful and borders defamation of character” that we are missing the message in the cartoon. Isn’t it just sad how menial and petty our so called politicians can be? I actually wont be surprised if Jonathan can be found dead one of these days… yes, they’ve sworn “to eliminate remnants of counter-revolution



Zapiro



176 Comments

carino
09 Sep 2008 06:49

monwy
09 Sep 2008 06:55

Eishhhh! carino.

monwy
09 Sep 2008 06:57

Did u notice dat d title of yo article doesnt show!?!

carino
09 Sep 2008 07:15

Centrepiece
09 Sep 2008 07:18

What are you up to Carino?..................... Don't thread on thin ice!!!!!!!!!!

Cande
09 Sep 2008 07:18

PRESENT, i think its funny..LMAO..
am sure tha-bang is PRESENT as well, as so is realist

Toodecent
09 Sep 2008 07:19

Present.

Entlik nna I have too much to say too, Mbalula up for initiation, ANC up for Jonathan Shapiro which i think he is a great cartoonist by the way. Walter Mokoena suspended for mentioning that a brazillian Legends took his virginity out with a goat... Women gang raping men......and the justice system being raped.( Prisioner Activist got sentenced yesterday mara ba bang dont even wanna hear the word Prison)

Cande
09 Sep 2008 07:24

i was LOling when i received this e-mail this morning..I am still ROFLMFAO

felfel
09 Sep 2008 07:27

I don't like that cartoon.

zowee
09 Sep 2008 07:29

Present

This cartoon is saying a lot.
 Cande what do u find funny about this?

Pooky
09 Sep 2008 07:30

PRESENT mistress

zowee
09 Sep 2008 07:30

Is that a shower on top of Msholozi's big khanda?

Cande I take that back, but ke this is serious lol kuyahlekwa mos noba kubi

Cande
09 Sep 2008 07:32

Hey, i dont care what are the implications behind this cartoon...
for me its funny, OK?

Nonny
09 Sep 2008 07:35

Absent......

Cande
09 Sep 2008 07:39

Nonny, you were not given any other option OK??
the article says "Please reply "PRESENT" if you want to be part of this debate..."

otherwise be a silent blogger on this article>>LOL

zowee
09 Sep 2008 07:39

Nonny subhoxa

mabhebheza
09 Sep 2008 07:39

Present  .....Thank u ..i thought i was going to google this Zapiro cartoon ! Thanks Carino !!

Toodecent
09 Sep 2008 07:42

Hey, i dont care what are the implications behind this cartoon...
for me its funny, OK?>>>>>>>>
KE LAME LEO...
Hi hi hi hiThere is something about that shower on top of the big head, probably a shower hour locater tl tl tl tl....

Pooky
09 Sep 2008 07:43

LOL @ the shower.....

tha - bang
09 Sep 2008 07:45

I'm defineatly present. I think zapiro hit the nail on the head with the sketch.it hits too close to home for the showerman sympathiser.cos thats what the guys are trying to do to the judiciary,poor lady Justice

Toxic
09 Sep 2008 07:46

*interesting*

playgal
09 Sep 2008 07:50

PRESENT I think that this cartoon is a great reflection of what is actually going on in our justice system & if things carry on this way we'll c that prominent people in our society are giong to go scott free and this is giong directly da opposite direction of w@ our constitution is aiming for. yes its funny but i feel that these things should be taken seriously becoz uzuma might just become the next president and do we realy need one who now seems as if he is giong the mugabe root as in if his charges are dropped he would have played our justice system and the people enormusly becoz he should be facing up to the allegations against him and not promoting the fact that the people want the charges dropped he shouldnt be condoning this. becoz there r persons who actually feel that they should kill, fast, go to sangomas because of a man whom that they think is GOD  and gonna bring them out of the hell holes that they are in i doubt it coz cum on wat umbeki didnt do or didnt do well what makes u think u zuma will do better. DONT LASH OUT AT ME ZUMA FANS MY OPINON FUNNY CARTOON BY THE WAY

DJ Why why
09 Sep 2008 07:53

PRESENT...me too @Cande, I think it is funny love the drop on JZ's head from the shower.

Great work as always!, it takes a good artist to get a point home with so much emotion in this case he hit a bulls eye!

Thanks Carino i am downloading it manje!




 

JadaPinkett
09 Sep 2008 07:57

Present...What's happening to the JUSTICE SYSTEM

Earth
09 Sep 2008 08:00

Zapiro o opile kgomo lenaka...damn,the shower on his head kills me!!!!!!!!!!

Toodecent
09 Sep 2008 08:07

The pics link dissapeared from where you got it......I hope you saved it gore you can upload directly to TVSA. *Hint* go to the YFM news Blog and save it.

Toodecent
09 Sep 2008 08:07

Ok..its back must have been an error and Ga O Fetse Go Edita....?

Cande
09 Sep 2008 08:10

LMAO, shame poor JZ will never here the end of it..
Le ene he must teach his fans(MALEMA, VAvi e.t.c) to learn to think before they speak and stop talking unnecessarily

pinkdollar
09 Sep 2008 08:13

Upload the edited article already carino...the classroom is full now

Nonny
09 Sep 2008 08:14

otherwise be a silent blogger on this article>>LOL
But ke sisi swidi (Cande), u know I have difficuluties being a silent blogger, so I am absent, yet presnt u know wet em seyi?

mjj
09 Sep 2008 08:15

Present

Cande
09 Sep 2008 08:17



Upload the edited article already carino...the classroom is full now

LMAO, nyani Carino sigcwele(sp) ngoku

zowee
09 Sep 2008 08:17

the classroom is full now...lol Pinkdollar

whom that they think is GOD and gonna bring them out of the hell holes that they are in i doubt it coz cum on wat umbeki didnt do or didnt do well what makes u think u zuma will do better...

ngendikubamba isandla nto nje ukude playgal

Toodecent
09 Sep 2008 08:21

Withdrawal Symptoms..... ****** ;-(

zowee
09 Sep 2008 08:22

Hi mjj

Username
09 Sep 2008 08:22

Present for the debate, *best Vavi voice*and have to categorically state that I find the cartoon amusing and yet disturbing.

Cande
09 Sep 2008 08:29

Shape poor JZ's cheerleaders, they have to do the dirty deed of holding the JUSTICE SYSTEM while he chaows the cake...
LMAO, Thatha Zapiro Thatha

Golden Star
09 Sep 2008 08:30

♫ Umshini wam’ mshini wam’ umshini wam’ mshini wam umshini wam’ mshini wam… Haw’ leth’ umshini wam haw’ leth’ umshini wam’ ♫

andi01
09 Sep 2008 08:30

Present- This is very hilarrious and so true

andi01
09 Sep 2008 08:38

As a proud ANC member and a supporter of whom-ever we feel should represent us as the next president. i feel that the ANC has lost the mandate given to them by the voters and supporters. We are concerned more about what the people say about us, rather than leading thi country to teh best of our abilities. This cartoon is an eye-opener to all of us, that we are going around in circles and killing (eliminating) what ever we have achieved. If ANC lead with integrity and consideration to all humans, they shouldnt be worried about the cartoon, but rather the message behind it. 

I dont see anything wrong when using Zuma in reference to rape coz his surname is ZUMA which in Xhosa MEANS to rape, or (have consentual sex with someone who isnt your partner).

The ANC must stop being ignorant, over-protective (for lack of a better word), and they shudnt over-react, na for umsuzo lo.

Madonna
09 Sep 2008 08:38

Present.
sure playgal!!!!

andi01
09 Sep 2008 08:45

I think this conspiracy against the next president should stop before someone o tvsa, is eliminated

pinkdollar
09 Sep 2008 08:47

haaaa!!! Carino i'm starting to think you had nothing else to share except for this cartoon which we've all seen before this...we've been waiting

Toodecent
09 Sep 2008 08:48

When Malema said " I will Kill For Zuma" they didnt see anything wrong with it...and now when Zapiro is giving out his opinion which is true actually they moan...... Am not voting ANC ever as long as Zuma is there..as if it makes a difference anyway.

tha - bang
09 Sep 2008 08:48

As a proud ANC member and a supporter of whom-ever we feel should represent us as the next president. i feel that the ANC has lost the mandate given to them by the voters and supporters. We are concerned more about what the people say about us, rather than leading thi country to teh best of our abilities. This cartoon is an eye-opener to all of us, that we are going around in circles and killing (eliminating) what ever we have achieved. If ANC lead with integrity and consideration to all humans, they shouldnt be worried about the cartoon, but rather the message behind it.
The ANC must stop being ignorant, over-protective (for lack of a better word), and they shudnt over-react, na for umsuzo lo
Andi01 thats quite a mouthful,i hope there are more people like u within the ANC

maddie
09 Sep 2008 08:51

present

DJ Why why
09 Sep 2008 08:56

LOL @ Golden Star, You and Zapiro wud make a great team i suppose he forgot the sign "♫"....

Present for the debate, *best Vavi voice*and have to categorically state that I find the cartoon amusing and yet disturbing. ...Well said @ Username

Cande
09 Sep 2008 08:56

they should stop overeacting qha..

Andi for ANCYL President!!!!

zowee
09 Sep 2008 08:59

Am not voting ANC ever as long as Zuma is there.
Yazi TDC after I heard about that rape thing with Zuma I swore guilty or not,whether I have my ND or not if he becomes president I migrate to Zim, and ndisamile kwelo...ndiyahamba

Holy Ghost Fire
09 Sep 2008 09:01

Oh ma God, ibuyile futhi lensizwa yoPopayi?

Cande
09 Sep 2008 09:03

TDC, u said it well brother

Holy Ghost Fire
09 Sep 2008 09:08

In that Main actors blog Carino confess to have another name so now she's out of closet.

 

Mathaz
09 Sep 2008 09:14

I am no Zuma fan but he is a leader and should be respected.  The cartoon is in bad taste, rape is a serious matter in SA and should not be taken lightly.  I am disappointed in Zapiro.

DJ Why why
09 Sep 2008 09:21

That  was the point @ Carino..... he was saying exactly the same thing only for the justice system. 

I understand his point and yes it has a funny/unfunny point...it is his opinion of what is happening and i totally get the message and am not a politics follower....

cuz-cuz
09 Sep 2008 09:27

present yoh this present thing reminds of school when the teacher would call out attendance register and sunday school also. 

so this is the pic/cartoon  that  has the nation talking hmmm

Toxic
09 Sep 2008 09:30

Hello Everybody, I've got quite much to say about "the cartoon" 

everybody, but Carino had quite much to say.......kanti what gives? Carino, i don't wanna go home without reading your thoughts on this......please hurry up with the editing!

pinkdollar
09 Sep 2008 09:35

please hurry up with the editing - you'll still be seating on that desk come tomorrow morning if ulindele lowo, phela we've been waiting the whole afternoon, i think she was just bluffing

zowee
09 Sep 2008 09:40

you'll still be seating on that desk come tomorrow morning if ulindele lowo, phela we've been waiting the whole afternoon, i think she was just bluffing

haaaa!!! Carino i'm starting to think you had nothing else to share 

Upload the edited article already carino...the classroom is full now 

lol at Pinkdollar

mabhebheza
09 Sep 2008 09:42

Heheake Cariri ..wats with the disappearing act ....or nawe uyasaba ukuthi the ANC will sue u nje ngo Zapiro.....

mabhebheza
09 Sep 2008 09:48

I had 2go and analyse the picture ....*sigh* 
Zuma is wearing ama kick & bhoboza ..our next president is a bhujwa!

Pooky
09 Sep 2008 09:54

LMAO @ mabhebheza

sweetie my baby
09 Sep 2008 10:25

Present

i don't like this cartoon - not coz of how it depicts zuma and his gang of thugs.... nna, i have issues with the fact that whenever people want to talk about a violation of some kind- they have to use a womans body being hurt to illustrate the point. as a woman, that pic didn't sit well with me AT ALL... i think zapiro should've used his imagination and thought of something else to use.... but maybe that was his point - the shock factor..

Nonny
09 Sep 2008 10:29

Zuma is wearing ama kick & bhoboza ..our next president is a bhujwa!
hahahah Mabhebheza I can't eblieve u had time to notice ama kick-n-bhoboza in a cartoon this serious!!!!

Toxic
09 Sep 2008 10:55

Hayi ke, after waiting for what feels like forever for Carino's comments, i'll post what i think.

We have become too sensitive a society that we even have time to analyse a depiction of reality through a cartoonist's eyes. The justice system has always been represented by a female figure & what better way to send out a statement that really SHOWS us how Zuma and his people are trying to bypass the justice system, than by a rape scene. I don't think this pic would have made the country sit and up and think if it was showing Zuma ducking and diving with the woman chasing him. We'd be laughing if anything.

I think Zapiro is very brave that's for sure but i doubt he's that stupid as to create something he doesn't believe in. Even more stupid would be the editor of the paper in which this cartoon appeared.

I am generally apathetic about Zuma and anything Zumaesque and the last thing i want to see is headline after headline after headline over this cartoon. The more bad guy he comes out 'smelling' the more frustrated i become that this man is about to be the next president. 

The last time i checked everyone had a right to an opinion and Zapiro is expressing his the best way he knows how.

DJ Why why
09 Sep 2008 12:49

carino
10 Sep 2008 04:10

Cande
10 Sep 2008 04:16

Well said Carino,
*clap clap*

We need people like you to send this message to all those obsessed JZ cheerleaders .

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 04:21

Dankie Carino.....couldn't have said it better meself!!!!!!!

Would the cartoon have been more acceptable if Zuma was holding his mshini against lady Justice's head?
As TDC said somewhere else, Molema got away with his "we'll kill for Zuma' statements and the country has quickly gotten over it. This for me is like a droplet of water in a sea of things South Africans can complain about.

monwy
10 Sep 2008 04:25

Walter Mokoena suspended for mentioning that a brazillian Legends took his virginity out with a goat

how true is this TDC?

pinkdollar
10 Sep 2008 04:27

Wow...carino, that was worth waiting for and so well said

Toodecent
10 Sep 2008 04:27

I love it when Motlanthe says." Go for it Bosfssssssss"  ANC must stop the crying the do because they are the creators of all this isht.

Nonny
10 Sep 2008 04:29

Well said Carino.

Toodecent
10 Sep 2008 04:29

Its true Monwy....mara agin the TRUTH is the guy did take his virginity out with the poor goat. ;-( Reminds me of a website called Edumela....(the goat story)

Mathaz
10 Sep 2008 04:30

What Julious said in response to this cartoon actually made sense.  The boy can think after all, he said that it depicts African leaders as irresponsible for his full response log on to The Times.  I have said it before that Zuma is a leader and therefore should be respected.  He might have done questionable deeds but my understanding is that leaders should be respected whether you like it or not.

Today on Kaya fm. Zapiro was like he is not a racist and he feels like he has to hide just as he did those days and he has not been threatened as yet.  I believe that this freedom of speech thing is being taken too far.

carino
10 Sep 2008 04:37

Mathaz... the point is, Zuma is not the first leader to be drawn on a cartoon as got nothing to do with whether he's respected or not.. I mean you can go through Zapiro's catalogue.. he's drawn Thabo Mbeki licking Mugabe's a$$, for example... now, how "disrespectful" is that??? 

Lets just take respect out of this.. there's "media ethics" but "leaders respected in the media", now that policy i've never heard of...

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 04:39

The boy can think after all, he said that it depicts African leaders as irresponsible for his full response log on to The Times.

too lazy to go the website for a full response. He's a hypocrite for uttering irresponsible statements on the one hand and wanting to defend the honour of African leaders.

Clutching at straws is all his response smells of. He'll say anything to get the masses to agree with him. Anything at all. If the race card doesn't work then let's look at the "continental" card.

Okay, maybe i will go to the Times page to read it afterall.

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 04:44

From the website:

The cartoon shows that the principles she represents — fair and equal administration of the law, without corruption, avarice, prejudice or favour — are about to be violated. It is a truly terrifying image.

The immediate reaction of the alliance was to accuse Shapiro of depicting Zuma as a rapist.

But that’s a shallow interpretation of the cartoon.

Shapiro has encapsulated in one drawing the biggest threat to South Africa’s future — that our justice system will be the sacrificial lamb offered up on the altar of “our saviour”, Zuma.

The alliance has openly attacked the judiciary, including our highest court, and has announced national strikes and other protests should Zuma’s corruption trial proceed.

They have called for a “political solution” to the criminal case against Zuma.

Their willingness to “kill for Zuma”, to strike for Zuma and to mortgage our democracy for Zuma is frightening.

Zuma might be a bit of a joke, but what’s being done in his name is definitely not funny.

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 04:47

Malema described the cartoon as “racist” and said it exposed Zapiro’s “attitude not only about black leaders, but about black people in general”.

The ANC said the cartoon reflected Sunday Times editor Mondli Makhanya’s “dictatorial nature” and said he had “abused press freedom”.

The cartoon has drawn strong reaction from the ANC and its partners, who immediately linked the cartoon to the 2006 rape trial in which Zuma was accused of raping a young woman, but was later acquitted.

Malema said: “What Zapiro fails to understand is that Zuma was never found guilty of rape.”

Shapiro said linking the cartoon to the rape trial missed the point.

“It depicts that the justice system is being raped by Zuma and his alliance partners.

“The cartoon is about the justice system and the attacks that have been launched on it [by Zuma and the alliance partners]. What sparked it [the cartoon] had zip, nada, to do with the rape trial,” he said.

Shapiro is currently being sued by Zuma for cartoons that appeared during the rape trial. The initial claim against him was for R15-million, but this has been reduced to R2-million.

“If he thought that [the lawsuit] is going to intimidate me, then he must think again,” Shapiro said.

Vavi, who is known to be a fan of Zapiro’s work and has several of his cartoons displayed on the walls leading to his office in Cosatu House, said the cartoon had left him “shocked, devastated and lost for words”.

He said: “Zapiro has equated us to rapists. There is no basis for this cartoon. What is he saying to the world? Is he saying Zuma is a rapist? This cartoon goes way beyond acceptable levels of freedom of expression. While we battle rape in this country, he goes and does this!”

In a joint statement the ANC, its Youth League and the SA Communist Party accused Zapiro and Makhanya of abusing press freedom.

“We have never attacked the judiciary, but criticised unfair treatment of our president. This we did in a normal public discourse of a democratic society. There can, therefore, be no justification for such unwarranted insults on our leadership by the Sunday Times.”

The statement also called into question Makhanya’s credibility as an editor.


“We can only hope that the newspaper will find a suitable leadership other than the ranting dictator who finds joy in manipulating the truth. The ANC is keen that the public should get Makhanya to answer for abuse of press freedom by the Sunday Times.”

Makhanya said the cartoon portrayed the recent vicious attacks on the judiciary and legal system by Zuma and his allies.


“I wish there was a similar level of outrage about the labelling of the judiciary as counter-revolutionaries and the description of the highest court in the land as a shebeen,” he said.

Makhanya was referring to Congress of SA Students secretary Buda Tsotetsi’s recent comparison of the Constitutional Court with a shebeen, and Mantashe’s labelling of the court’s judges as counter- revolutionary.

Cosatu’s Patrick Craven said the cartoon was “in extremely bad taste” and questioned why a woman had been used to depict the justice system.

Shapiro said: “Lady [of] Justice is a universally recognised figure. Cosatu is simply pretending not to know that.”

Vavi and Malema said though they were not happy with Zapiro’s latest work, the alliance was not planning to take any action against him.

“We do need a Zapiro to express himself, but he must not agitate the masses,” Vavi said.

Freedom of Expression Institute executive<

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 04:48

clearly a case of context.....

carino
10 Sep 2008 04:53

Clearly...

Mathaz
10 Sep 2008 04:54

I mean you can go through Zapiro's catalogue.. he's drawn Thabo Mbeki licking Mugabe's a$$, for example... now, how "disrespectful" is that??? 

That shows that Zapiro does not take African leaders seriouslly.  I don't find anything humurous about a white man making fun of African leaders even if what he is depicting could be the truth.  Just like David Bullard he will personally apologise and shake Zuma's hand. 

Nonny
10 Sep 2008 04:55

*interesting*.....

Username
10 Sep 2008 05:01

Ditto to your edited article.

I found the cartoon disturbing in the sense it’s making the rest of SA think *those who don’t have their heads so far up Zuma’s ass* about the future and the reality that we are being held ransom by a few individuals who are running SA into anarchy and in their minds there is absolutely nothing anyone can do. With force they can do anything they want and no one can stop them.

@Mathaz, respect is earned, not given.

Zapiro has even drawn some unflattering cartoons about Mbeki and there was not even a whinge from the ANC ranks.

Julius Malema threatened to kill those who do not bow to ANC demands, that’s freedom of speech taken to far. Whether or not that was taken out of context.

carino
10 Sep 2008 05:05

Mathaz.. I dont think this has got anything to do with Jonathan being white...

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 05:06

I don't find anything humurous about a white man making fun of African leaders even if what he is depicting could be the truth.

If drawn by a black cartoonist, there would be nothing wrong with the picture then?

Cande
10 Sep 2008 05:23

Puhleez what does Malema know about respect if he could say "i am ready to take up weapons and kill for zuma" and some other day say
"this(Zuma's trials) is all Mbeki's fault and blah blah blah"..

and funny enough his leader JZ never has anything to say to condemn their iritating behaviour...

It seems as the people in the Zuma camp only see racist attacks from the media when its only about JZ not everyone else...
How many times have Zapiro made cartoons about other MP's and leaders and they never said anything???

this cartoon like any other he has made, is funny to me..

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 05:32

hahahaahah Cande!

Cande
10 Sep 2008 05:36

I don't find anything humurous about a white man making fun of African leaders even if what he is depicting could be the truth.

If drawn by a black cartoonist, there would be nothing wrong with the picture then?

really now, i was also wondering...

LMAO, i wend back to the cartoon again and i am still LoLing at the peeps on the cartoon.
Vavi's mouth and MAlema's mouth..LOL

Mathaz
10 Sep 2008 05:37

With force they can do anything they want and no one can stop them. 

There is someting that you can do about it, make sure that the ANC does not get the 2/3 majoririty and so have stiff competition in parliament.  Yes respect is earned but i guess you respect your boss, parents, siblings etc even if you do agree with some of their beliefs right?

Mathaz.. I dont think this has got anything to do with Jonathan being white...

You really like the guy neh?  He should have known better and taken into account the sensitivity surroung Zuma's case.

If drawn by a black cartoonist, there would be nothing wrong with the picture then?

That's not my point.  What i'm saying is that i will never laugh at my white's colleague jokes at the expense of my black brothers.

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 05:43

That's not my point. What i'm saying is that i will never laugh at my white's colleague jokes at the expense of my black brothers.

So it's more a case of solidarity for you then- no matter the stance. right or wrong, u're with your black brothers, through thick and thin, evil and good, corruption and transparency. As long as they are black, let no white man point out the bad they are doing and let them dare not crack a joke about them in your presence....that kinda thing? Like,WTF?

pinkdollar
10 Sep 2008 05:45

What i'm saying is that i will never laugh at my white's colleague jokes at the expense of my black brothers. - race has zilch to do with that cartoon. I think the cartoon perfectly fits the way things are in this country

carino
10 Sep 2008 05:50

That's not my point. What i'm saying is that i will never laugh at my white's colleague jokes at the expense of my black brothers. 

Shame Mathaz... that 's so sad...

Cande
10 Sep 2008 05:50

The only thing sensitive about this trial specifically is JZ FANS, there is nothing sensitive about the case i take it as any other corruption case against a HIGH PROFILED politician...
Why dont they want to let him go to trial, stand in front of the court of law and prove his innocence?? like he did with the rape trial?? WHY?

carino
10 Sep 2008 05:50

So it's more a case of solidarity for you then- no matter the stance. right or wrong, u're with your black brothers, through thick and thin, evil and good, corruption and transparency. As long as they are black, let no white man point out the bad they are doing and let them dare not crack a joke about them in your presence....that kinda thing? Like,WTF?

LOL

Username
10 Sep 2008 05:51

@Mathaz, I said “in their minds” they believe they are unstoppable.

My parents, my boss and siblings have earned the respect I have for them, through their actions. The things you do reflect what kind of human being you are and the level of respect people will give you.

Cande
10 Sep 2008 05:52

this cartoon has got nothing to do with black & white, but everything to do with how things are at the moment in our country...
that is the reality, hence soo many people are moved because they dont like the truth..

carino
10 Sep 2008 05:56

Exactly, cande...

thinLine
10 Sep 2008 05:58

The guy with a shower growing on his head is the only one without a name Label/Tag on but people just knew it's Jacob Zuma......mmmmmm just wondering.

Cande
10 Sep 2008 06:01

The guy with a shower growing on his head is the only one without a name Label/Tag on but people just knew it's Jacob Zuma......mmmmmm just wondering.

Cumin to think of it, you are right yazi.who said that is him?

carino
10 Sep 2008 06:07

The guy with a shower growing on his head is the only one without a name Label/Tag on but people just knew it's Jacob Zuma......mmmmmm just wondering.

Wow... thinline... you are very clever indeed.... Thats a good point right there..... 
It clearly shows that they know excatly what this cartoon is saying...they just dont want to admit it.

thinLine
10 Sep 2008 06:07

Cumin to think of it, you are right yazi.who said that is him?

Batyiwa yizazela zabo...

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:08

@ Cande-Andi for ANCYL President- Comrade I accept, LOL

carino
10 Sep 2008 06:11

The guy with a shower growing on his head is the only one without a name Label/Tag on but people just knew it's Jacob Zuma......mmmmmm just wondering.

Wow... thinline... you are very clever indeed.... Thats a good point right there..... 
It clearly shows that they know excatly what this cartoon is saying...they just dont want to admit it.

Miss K
10 Sep 2008 06:15

As long as they are black, let no white man point out the bad they are doing....spot on Toxic! Reading Mathaz's responses now i understand how the Zuma fans/camp think and rationalise their support for this man! I'm not attacking u Mathaz but u shed some light!

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:18

distasteful and borders defamation of character- @ Carino, to be honest, i think Mr Zuma did this (defamation of character) all by himself. And we as his supporters are making things worse by not giving him the honest criticism.  We as the ANC (myself, Malema, etc) are the people that are trusted by the president. We are his right wing, if we mislead him into thinking he is always right, we are actually misleading ourselves and mostly misleading the people that have faith in us.

Also I think people should stop using "racism" as a scapegoat for everything. If we call this racism, what are we calling Mondli (the editor), is he now a coconut or an uncle Tom. if you ask me I would say he is just an honest guy, just like Jonathan Shapiro is.

carino
10 Sep 2008 06:28

Ditto andi's response...

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:29

@Sweety my baby-they have to use a womans body being hurt to illustrate the point. as a woman, that pic didn't sit well with, i get ur point, but on the contrary I wud say that using the woman there was the best thing ever. We as women in SA in the last year have shown gullibility and naive-ness. Mr Zuma during his trial said somethings ngabafazi that showed his lack of respect for the specie (i.e when u wear short kanga u are asking for it). Secondly he has many wives, he risked their lives by shagging an hiv+ woman. Yet when we go to Polokwane, we as womens League turn our backs on the man (Mbeki) who gave us recognition as women (look at his cabinet, and even his deputy) and voted for the men who has no shame in treating us like second best.

My point is Baleka Mbete (if thats her representing justice system ), shud be careful, she is very close to Zuma at the moment. if this man disrespects a portion of women out there, what makes her think he wont disrepectct her someday. ( I am of course looking at the picture literally)

Miss K
10 Sep 2008 06:31

hay ndiyaqala ukubona icommrade elibhadlileyo ngawe andi01.

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:31

@ Carino-Ditto andi's response..., what do you mean

Shadow
10 Sep 2008 06:31

LMAO...Just saw this cartoon for the first time. The showerman bathong!!!!!!!!!!

Cande
10 Sep 2008 06:35

Andi01, you making soo much sense about the woman thingie...i am still shocked at the ANCWL for their candidate on last year's ANC elections..

what does Ditto mean bathong?

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:39

@ TDC-ANC must stop the crying the do because they are the creators of all this isht. You are so right my brother, we as the ANC have the "power" to make things work, but we choose to use that power to our own gains, to make things worse and we also use that power to stand up in huge crowds and fart a lot of *bleep!*, coz according to me what (Malema, Vavi etc) have been saying these past few weeks is a lot of *bleep!* and shouldnt be tolerated.

These people represent us (our thoughts and opinions), for them to go out there and embarass us like this sends out teh message that we are all idiots, which is not true. They create their own mandate and according to me its unacceptable. We are loyal to this organisation, and to have representatives like them, its a disgrace. you too Tony Yengeni, Blade Nzimande etc I have a thing or two to say to you, then you can eliminate me. I would rather die for an idea that would live, than live for an idea that would die, coz clear thinking that Zuma will be a great president, that "idea" is dead already./

carino
10 Sep 2008 06:40

Main Entry: 1dit·to
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural dittos
Etymology: Italian ditto, detto, past participle of dire to say, from Latin dicere — more at diction
Date: circa 1639
1 : a thing mentioned previously or above —used to avoid repeating a word —often symbolized by inverted commas or apostrophes

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:41

@ Carino ;Doesnt ditto mean a repeat, now are you saying  I have repeated something thas been said, if so i apologise coz I didnt have the chance to go through all teh response.

carino
10 Sep 2008 06:42

dit·to (dt)
n. pl. dit·tos
1. The same as stated above or before.
2. A duplicate; a copy.
3. A pair of small marks ( " ) used to indicated that the word, phrase, or figure given above is to be repeated.
adv.
As before.
tr.v. dit·toed, dit·to·ing, dit·tos
To duplicate (a document, for example).

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[Italian dialectal, past participle of Italian dire, to say, from Latin dcere; see deik- in Indo-European roots.]
Word History: Ditto, which at first glance seems a handy and insignificant sort of word, actually has a Roman past, for it comes from dictus, "having been said," the past participle of the verb dcere, "to say." In Italian dcere became dire and dictus became detto, or in the Tuscan dialect ditto. Italian detto or ditto meant what said does in English, as in the locution "the said story." Thus the word could be used in certain constructions to mean "the same as what has been said"; for example, having given the date December 22, one could use 26 detto or ditto for 26 December. The first recorded use of ditto in English occurs in such a construction in 1625. The sense "copy" is an English development, first recorded in 1818. Ditto has even become a trademark for a duplicating machine.

carino
10 Sep 2008 06:44

andi.. i mean, im repeating after you...

1 : a thing mentioned previously or above —used to avoid repeating a word —often symbolized by inverted commas or apostrophes

Molilo
10 Sep 2008 06:45

In simple terms u agree with what is said previously: DITTO

Molilo
10 Sep 2008 06:48

Carino I just laughed after seeing ur post. U r indeed confusing people, but I like how u broke it down

Mathaz
10 Sep 2008 06:50

Please enrol for African Politics 101, you'll be enlightened.

Cande
10 Sep 2008 06:51

thank you ladies

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 06:53

Please enrol for African Politics 101, you'll be enlightened.

The biggest copout if there's ever been one!

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:53

About Zuma, it is not about being guilty or not, but "why put yourself in the position" whereby people question ur leadership skills. Yes he was acquited of rape, but the fact that he associated himself with this scandal and controversy will always be a stain in his life. "hello this person is running for presidency". And also this case is over, he is clean, but that doesnt mean we cant "joke" about it.

The corruption case: the ANC camp is confussing us, we dont know who to support anymore. Zuma says " I would have my day in court to prove my innocence{, yet his best friends say he wont go to court. What has he to loose, the tax payers will be paying his bills mos. I think "My future president" and fellow comrade should go to court and clear his name, like he did with the rape saak. Even afetr that, we will still joke about it, whether she likes it or not.

Those who cry racism, Bill Clinton is white and so is Monica Lewinsky.

andi01
10 Sep 2008 06:56

@Mathaz- i have great respect for Zuma, he is one of my mentors in teh organisation, but to me the truth and respect go hand in hand, you cant compromise truth for respect, if so you are a hypocrite. And shudnt even be considered as peoples representative.

pinkdollar
10 Sep 2008 07:02

Please enrol for African Politics 101, you'll be enlightened - but i dont think 'we' would meet the requirements of being a Zuma follower...so you go ahead and its clear you'll get an A+

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 07:06

LOL Pink!

carino
10 Sep 2008 07:09

I love you, andi01....

tshepiso
10 Sep 2008 07:13

Cande
10 Sep 2008 07:17

LOL pinkdollar...
I wonder how the name "Pinkdollar" came about

pinkdollar
10 Sep 2008 07:21

I wonder how the name "Pinkdollar" came about - i'd like to keep that one a mistery

realist
10 Sep 2008 07:22

@ Play gal, Andile and username.
Have to agree with you.

To those who think by staying away and not voting will make any difference, think again.

@ Cande
I do not give a rat's ass whether Zuma becomes the president of RSA or not. I am just happy that Thabo Mbeki is not the leader of the ANC. Period.

Btw Carino, you article makes a good valid point. That is exactly what most South Africans are worried about.

pinkdollar
10 Sep 2008 07:28

"Any force on our way we will eliminate. We are on a mission here. We will crush you. It doesn't matter who you are, even if you are in the ANC," Malema said to loud applause. Andi i think you need to watch out ntombazane

"We believe in that judge... He looked very sober to us... That's why we are so convinced that we are going to get a positive judgment." - Sapa  from iol

Malema just opens his mouth but only fart comes out from there. Does he actually think before uttering such nonsense. Zuma must really be proud - its like he's leading the blind that wont open their eyes and see what's happening. its so sad that the poor who have the majority vote see this as the only true word.

realist
10 Sep 2008 07:36

its like he's leading the blind that wont open their eyes and see what's happening. its so sad that the poor who have the majority vote see this as the only true word.

If Africa could ensure that education is a must and a right, just maybe they could save us from this crap of Malema.

carino
10 Sep 2008 07:42

I do not give a rat's ass whether Zuma becomes the president of RSA or not. I am just happy that Thabo Mbeki is not the leader of the ANC. Period

me too, yazi....I'm so happy he's not leading them chicken heads.

nna Thabo Mbeki will always be My President.... They should learn, for instance from the way he deal with tha Sunday Times the last time they did a cover story on him that he gained R30 million in the arms deal and gave Z**a R2 million. 
The story was childish and it was clear that the press release had been written by one of those less-informed ANC members...
 
My President acted very leaderly around that matter.... they should take notes...

Cande
10 Sep 2008 07:47

I was not sure what realist meant, but the way Carino puts it, it makes soo much sense..

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 07:50

can we stick to Zuma please......

realist
10 Sep 2008 08:05

On that story he did indeed act like a leader. Regardless he still sucks.

carino
10 Sep 2008 08:06

Okay, Tox.... just one more time...

I think ANC people are just a bit insecure as well when it comes to Zu**... coz... I mean, if they are sure and certain that he's the leader that he's supposed to be and he'll lead them to kingdom come....why are they always so worried about the comments made about him and why do they work so hard to defend him???

Just not so long ago... at some rally...they were complaining that when Thabo Mbeki was introducing Zuma he said ...."Mr Zu**, come speak to your people"

andi01
10 Sep 2008 08:13

@Pinkdollar-Andi i think you need to watch out ntombazane- i was kicked out of teh ANC executive (in my area), bcoz of "my statements lack signs of loyalty and respect to what the ANC stands for".

realist
10 Sep 2008 08:14

On that story he did indeed act like a leader. Regardless he still sucks.

andi01
10 Sep 2008 08:14

andi01
10 Sep 2008 08:18

The is a song, sung by women it goes like "Zuma, zuma apha kum, andifuni necondom (Zuma, davaza me, we dont have to use protection). When i first heard it I was in tears, asking Oh beatiful mothers of teh motherland, what has become of you.

Where is Nonny, i would love to hear her views on this matter

Cande
10 Sep 2008 08:23

where is that song and what women sing it Andi?? SIES man.

playgal
10 Sep 2008 08:26

well i shudder to think that there are so many people who still believe that our african leaders need to be respected@mathaz
if u look  at it this way they have all dealt in some sort of corruption and when 'leaked' into the media they cry defamation! we dont have enof people in SA who can express thier views without the word defamation being cried out. from mbeki to zuma can you not see the pattern that is being so familiarly drawn? all the ANC's leaders always at times have something to hide and when a person has something to say they should not use the media when expressin their views even though it is for the greater good?
the ANC has become to sensitive becoz it is now about the xhosa(think) and zulu's  and being in someones camp giong against mbeki because he aint doing even 4 da zulu's whilst zuma is a umzulu he can do betta for them. and have u noticed that the most people who complain da most are the zulu's the people who cry foul, strike are the zulu's all for a man they dont if he is telling the truth or not @ carino thanks 4 doing this because one has seen how small some pples minds r wen it cums to ZUMA  gudluck to them

realist
10 Sep 2008 08:28

Something is not right with TVSA site today. Can somebody provide an explanation please. With this post I rest my case on this topic.

tshepiso
10 Sep 2008 08:34

Mzanzi people don't be stereotype, it not only about rape here. it is also above women rights, which being abused by JZ.

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 08:37

realist: r u saying tvsa is suddenly slow cause they are pro-zuma? LOL

Mathaz
10 Sep 2008 08:40

"Kwaito singer Ignatius “Dr Mageu” Ntshebele died in prison on Saturday. "

andi01
10 Sep 2008 08:46

@playgal- i hear you and agree with some of ur points, but with all due respect comrade can we please keep tribalism (Xhosa / zulu) out of this. This is a rather unfair generalisation, I do understand where u coming from hence (zuma=zulu and mbeki = xhosa), but within the walls of the organisation we look at one another as comrades and would rather focus on the struggle that tribalism. ANC isnt for zulu/xhosa only  i.e (tokyo sexwale, kgalema mothlante, ebrahim rasool), those people are neither xhosa nor zulu and neither was Joe Slovo.

andi01
10 Sep 2008 08:51

@tshepiso-it is also above women rights, which being abused by JZ., and human rights also, It is sad that the organisation (incl cosatu, nogal )that claims to stand for the people is supporting him through all this.

maddie
10 Sep 2008 08:52

they all say it's Mbeki's fault that Zuma is going through this trial but they can't prove it same applies to the conspiracy they r talking about

if vele it's Mbeki's fault but they can't prove it, that to me tells me that Mbeki is very good at covering his tracks and that makes a him a good politician.

trust me people politics all over the world are very dirty and they all do some scary ish, they are all corrupt but you won't find that out. you need to cover your tracks as a politician people are not suppose to know about your dirty laundry, how you do it, it's up to u as long as we don't find out.

Zuma did not cover his tracks and that makes me question his ability as a politician. 

pinkdollar
10 Sep 2008 08:55

i was kicked out of teh ANC executive (in my area), bcoz of "my statements lack signs of loyalty and respect to what the ANC stands for"....say what???SHame you are very loyal to still be proANC

Zuma, zuma apha kum, andifuni necondom -  that's just disgusting

andi01
10 Sep 2008 08:56

It is sad that in SA the people in power benefit a lot on the people (like you and I)'s account. Umzekelo, the inflation rate is high, fuel is expensivem food is expensive. Me and You (we) are asked to tighten our belts, while Tito Mboweni gets a 28% wage increase, bringing his annual salary to 3.9 million. Well what can we say, it is still less that that of the coach for Babalwa Babalwa.

realist
10 Sep 2008 08:58

Toxic: Tell you what? When you good you good. The best thing I have heard in a while. That brought a good laugh.

love-ness
10 Sep 2008 08:59

do we really have to give JZ such attention,the cartoon is meant to be funny so we laugh at it,if Jacob and his camp cant handle the heat they can buy an island somewhere and live like bra robs.

yhoo.....hao zuma is not made of glass,if we can laugh at other ppl why shouldnt we laugh at him.

all the ANC camp knows what to do is getting involved in things that dnt involve them,they should stop crawling ko pele ga JZ and start putting their party on the right track nxa........


nna im gonna laugh at ZUMZUM and his shower cap tl tlt tl tl lt lol...........................

Nonny
10 Sep 2008 09:04

Where is Nonny, i would love to hear her views on this matter
My friend, I am here, I just don't do politics nje.

playgal
10 Sep 2008 09:05

@andi i undastand so i apologise. you what we need we an impeachment towards zuma and mbeki to find out who is the most incompetent and most corrupt or maybe a vote of no confident and see who will get da most between the two but hey this is sa we are run y criminals/politicians who claim that there will be a better life for all. hopefully sa wont fall into the same trap as zim becoz at the rate we are giong we are giong down the dictatorship route. look at our sprts team every time they dont do well they cry that the POLITICS in this contry is hindering thier performances hey makes you wonda.

myname
10 Sep 2008 09:06

Oh 4give me Carino for ignoring this article but i wasnt. Everytime i try 2 change to another article , my computer goes off so askies.......Good people i see nothing wrong with the cartoon except the truth. The song says it all "Truth Hurts". I really dont know why people r moaning about this coz we all know what Zuma did even though the court didnt find him guilty. Usisidlwengu & kill me if u want 2......START NOW

andi01
10 Sep 2008 09:22

@pinkdollar-SHame you are very loyal to still be proANC, I still believe in the ANC that Mandela, Sisulu, Thambo stood for. The minute I wanna turn my back on the ANC I think of Steve Biko, Chris Hani and the June 16th. I always reflect back to the struggle that the Organisation overcame to be where we are today. I will never let my beliefs, morals, loyalty and principles be shaken by pricks who lack all four. It is hard to believe that our leaders can just take for granted all those tears, sweat and blood, that our brothers and sisters sacrificied for our freedom. People be warned greed is what turned Lucifer to become Satan.

andi01
10 Sep 2008 09:22

@pinkdollar-SHame you are very loyal to still be proANC, I still believe in the ANC that Mandela, Sisulu, Thambo stood for. The minute I wanna turn my back on the ANC I think of Steve Biko, Chris Hani and the June 16th. I always reflect back to the struggle that the Organisation overcame to be where we are today. I will never let my beliefs, morals, loyalty and principles be shaken by pricks who lack all four. It is hard to believe that our leaders can just take for granted all those tears, sweat and blood, that our brothers and sisters sacrificied for our freedom. People be warned greed is what turned Lucifer to become Satan.

andi01
10 Sep 2008 09:38

@playgal towards zuma and mbeki to find out who is the most incompetent and most corrupt or maybe a vote of no confident - I would love to beleieve that our choices arent limited to those two, coz if truth be told, between them two its a case of "a kettle calling the pot black". One of Mbeki's mistakes was spending too much time with Mugabe, bad habits do rub off very quickly. The second one is trying to use Zuma's weakness-es to be popular, while neglecting the people. 

@myname-Usisidlwengu & kill me if u want 2......START NOW, this is a bit unfair considering the arm of the law found him innocent. Now you are starting to sound like Julious Malema, be careful girl, as I said earlier, bad habits rub off very quickly. Rather crucify Zuma based on facts and not let ur emotions cloud your judgement.

carino
10 Sep 2008 09:40

I love you, andzz...

andi01
10 Sep 2008 09:47

I love you too, Carino "my grammar teacher"

Cande
10 Sep 2008 09:53

rest in peace Mageu

andi01
10 Sep 2008 10:05

Toodecent
10 Sep 2008 10:12

Yah rest in peace Geuzen.........

Toxic
10 Sep 2008 10:26

Mageu?? That ruff-neck who raped a young girl somewhere and assalted his grandmother? That man does not deserve peace man.

andi01
10 Sep 2008 10:29

The punishment of sin is death, he has been punished for all his wrong doings, lest therefore forgive him and may his soul rest in peace

mabhebheza
10 Sep 2008 11:39

Andi01 u remind me of youth days when i still had the passion 4being a politician ...Viva 2 Andi01 Viva!!

Firstdvd
11 Sep 2008 01:08

*TRUTH HURTS* as an african black man...I(in bold) feel offended by this cartoon...

Cande
11 Sep 2008 01:23

I cant believe the Sadtu in KZN wants the matric exams to be postponed because they want their members to participate in the JZ demonstration tonight and tomorrow..

tha - bang
11 Sep 2008 01:45

People be warned greed is what turned Lucifer to become Satan.it was actually pride. anyhow u guys prove all those people in teh boardrooms and staticians wrong ,that we really do care aout our country and where its heading.
my one advice is people need to vote next year.ANC cant get another 2/3 majority if it does ,we would have failed ourselves and the country.Cause it will give them more license to do what they want without any accountability or mandate from the voting public.so people lets vote

tha - bang
11 Sep 2008 01:47

I cant believe the Sadtu in KZN wants the matric exams to be postponed because they want their members to participate in the JZ demonstration tonight and tomorrow..these are the sort of people we are voting into power...mmmh

Pooky
11 Sep 2008 02:32

I cant believe the Sadtu in KZN wants the matric exams to be postponed because they want their members to participate in the JZ demonstration tonight and tomorrow

....suffer the poor children

Toxic
11 Sep 2008 05:29

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw/en/page1655?oid=224354&sn=Detail 

Carino, head on over there pls, think u'll find something to either laugh @ or be puzzled over!

Floh
16 Sep 2008 16:15

We are going on and on about how it was “distasteful and borders defamation of character”  yes I also with those who said this is the defimination of character and will always say so. He is not my favourate and neither of those man in the run or in politics are my favs.

So are we saying the Justice system is the woman, why is Zapiro using women,  is rape a joke, many women are living with the scars of rape ? answer me!

I urge Zapiro to think about the impact to the living beings fisrt before expressing himself. Yes he is the good journalist and the cartoonist but sometimes he gets out of hand.

UMbalula yena bathi isifuba sigcwele izindaba, ingakho bemthumele entabeni ake ayobhodla.

Mathaz
17 Sep 2008 05:21

Wonder said at Sep 17 2008 10:02AM
Jesse, Jesse who? read this and you'll be wiser because the man who got wiser late in his life said it! Bullard himself. this doesn't go against any ground rules, so please don't remove my post!

I used to hunt when I lived in England. I wasn’t a good enough equestrian to stay on a horse long enough to take part in that most noble of English pursuits, a fox hunt, so I joined the Surrey and North Sussex Beagles and ran across muddy fields with a whole lot of other Sloane Rangers chasing frightened hares with a pack of beagles.

There is something about a pack hunt that is tremendously exciting, although probably not for the quarry. When hounds are drawing for a scent and put up a fugitive fox, stag or hare all hell breaks loose. The huntsman sounds his horn with a long, mournful tone that roughly translates as “let’s go kill something”. The “whipper in” brings the entire pack of hounds onto the scent and the chase begins. One frightened, defenceless animal pursued across the fields by a bloodthirsty mob in the name of a day’s sport. At the kill it used to be traditional to “blood” the youngest member of the hunt by smearing the dead animal’s still warm blood on the face of that lucky participant.

I was reminded of all this by the furore surrounding last Sunday’s Zapiro cartoon of Jacob Zuma unzipping his trousers in anticipation of raping Madame Justice who is being held down by some of his more terrifying supporters. The clear message in the cartoon was that this was a gang bang and after JZ had finished the others would be climbing upon Madame Justice for a quick knee trembler.

Many feel that this was Zapiro at his best and there is no doubt that South Africa’s best known cartoonist knows how to make his point. However, although I am usually a staunch supporter of freedom of expression I have to express my revulsion at this cartoon which goes way beyond the bounds of decency.

When a serious crime is committed the law takes into account the mental state of the person who committed the crime. For example, in the case of murder the wrong act (actus reus) has to be accompanied by the wrong thought (mens rea) for the charge of murder to stick. If the intention to kill wasn’t present then the charge may well be manslaughter. In order to properly evaluate the Zapiro cartoon we need to understand the thought processes of both the cartoonist and the bibulous editor of the Sunday Times.

When I was still working at the Sunday Times I had a huge showy desk for several years right outside the editor’s office. On Thursday the honchos would start to think about what was going to go into that week’s paper. They would unashamedly pick a victim and decide to put the boot in, irrespective of the accuracy of their information. A favourite victim was Jacob Zuma but others included Ronald Suresh Roberts and Jake White.

Mondli Makhanya, the Jorrocks of the newsroom, would sound the hunting horn and we would all go off to write some poisonous invective about that week’s chosen quarry, comfortable in the knowledge that, even if we were sued, the case would take ages to come to court and the shareholders would pay anyway. That’s why the term “journalistic integrity” is an oxymoron.

Jonathan Shapiro needed no editorial bidding to put the boot into Jacob Zuma. I met Shapiro at the Franschhoek Literary Festival earlier this year and I have never in my life met a man so consumed by hatred… on this occasion hatred for me, hatred for Zuma and a liberal dash of well justified self loathing.

In a panel session Shapiro had a go at me for “licking Jacob Zuma’s Guccis” after I had apologized for any offence he had taken in columns I had written. Z


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